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weakdraft
02-24-2013, 09:54 PM
WR named Wheaton from Oregon.

Am I Johnny come lately here.?

BstripeYpaint
02-24-2013, 10:17 PM
Yes, Markus Wheaton from Oregon State. He looks fantastic. He's not as big as Patterson, but he's fast and has very good hands. I think he's the career receptions holder at OSU. He's basically built like Wallace.

NeilPatrickBanana
02-24-2013, 10:34 PM
Yes your late.

Black@Gold Forever32
02-24-2013, 11:13 PM
Yes your late.

You hyped Wheaton weeks ago and he is one of the five WR's that I really like in this draft....

BstripeYpaint
02-25-2013, 12:46 AM
It's hard to feel comfortable with E. Sanders' injury history. I bet we end up adding a few new WRs to the roster (one way or another). At last year's NFL meeting, Tomlin was asked: "are you convinced that Emmanuel Sanders will be able to overcome his injury problems?" Tomlin responded by saying, "no I'm not. He's had some injury problems, so you can't anticipate that it's going to stop." He then added, "but the same could be said for Willie Colon." These are "challenges from a planning standpoint".

Real Deal Steel
02-25-2013, 11:21 AM
Yes, Markus Wheaton from Oregon State. He looks fantastic. He's not as big as Patterson, but he's fast and has very good hands. I think he's the career receptions holder at OSU. He's basically built like Wallace.

Could very well be the direction we head in because WR isn't our biggest need. LB's are our biggest need now.

BstripeYpaint
02-25-2013, 07:51 PM
I know we need LBs.... Now. But brace yourself for the possibility that we might draft Warmack or Jonathan Cooper from UNC in round 1. Cooper's stock rose in the combine. O-Line is still an area of concern for us! Ugh.

K Train
02-25-2013, 07:55 PM
i dont have problems drafting truly dominant players in the first round, idc what position...if warmack is that guy id be thrilled. Our RB woes would quickly go away when it didnt matter who was running because the interior line and adams are blowing guys 7 yards off the snap

BstripeYpaint
02-25-2013, 07:59 PM
Honestly, I'd be thrilled too if we acquired Warmack or Cooper. They may be among the truly best players in the draft. I was just feeling a little frustrated that it's taking us a few years to restore the power at O-line.

K Train
02-25-2013, 08:07 PM
but taking a few years and investing a few picks quick is how you build one for the next decade. Like ive said multiple times, the best olinemen are usually high picks, and the best olines usually have a few of them on their lines.

Adams, Warmack, Pouncey, Decastro, Gilbert would put Smith(2nd), Faneca(1st), Hartings(1st), Simmons(1st), Starks(3rd) to absolute shame. It would rival Roaf/Shields/Waters

NeilPatrickBanana
02-25-2013, 09:08 PM
but taking a few years and investing a few picks quick is how you build one for the next decade. Like ive said multiple times, the best olinemen are usually high picks, and the best olines usually have a few of them on their lines.

Adams, Warmack, Pouncey, Decastro, Gilbert would put Smith(2nd), Faneca(1st), Hartings(1st), Simmons(1st), Starks(3rd) to absolute shame. It would rival Roaf/Shields/Waters

overrating potential, underrating reality...

I hope that line becomes dominant too... but right now, there is one proven above the line starter in that group.

Just because they were drafted as dominant prospects... doesn't mean they ARE dominant NFL Linemen

Or to summarize my point very simply... Kendall Simmons (1st)

K Train
02-25-2013, 09:16 PM
simmons was a beast before he got diabetes lol

Well maybe overrating potential, even though i think it would be a world crushing line....the actual reality is guys like mahan, hartwig, stapleton, essex, legursky, hills, stephenson, j.scott, c.scott, urbik, and shipley have been an absolute detriment to the team and set them back so many years on the oline that its refreshing to see them taking action on it early in the draft

NeilPatrickBanana
02-26-2013, 12:35 AM
simmons was a beast before he got diabetes lol

Well maybe overrating potential, even though i think it would be a world crushing line....the actual reality is guys like mahan, hartwig, stapleton, essex, legursky, hills, stephenson, j.scott, c.scott, urbik, and shipley have been an absolute detriment to the team and set them back so many years on the oline that its refreshing to see them taking action on it early in the draft

completely agree. potential through the roof... and too much time was spent NOT addressing the line before these past few years...
PS Kraig Urbik is a borderline pro bowl caliber guard now... just sayin

K Train
02-26-2013, 09:38 AM
completely agree. potential through the roof... and too much time was spent NOT addressing the line before these past few years...
PS Kraig Urbik is a borderline pro bowl caliber guard now... just sayin
hes not though, he is completely overshadowed by levitre and woods who ARE both pro bowl caliber players.

I think he has improved though, i hated the pick at the time because it was a reach but even though i thought he played pretty terrible, the gave worse players a longer look at making the roster. I read a few times that urbik was probably better than foster, just lacked the confidence.

Dont mistake urbik for this great player, the other two on that interior line are absolute beasts. They get it done as a unit though

NeilPatrickBanana
02-26-2013, 11:30 AM
Clearly your hatred of the pick at the time clouds your opinion today.

Urbik is Wood/Levitre's equal

K Train
02-26-2013, 11:49 AM
not clouded, i said hes improved greatly from that abortion of a performance he showed with the steelers, watch him play, Hes so heavy footed and slow. Levitre is a top 5-6 guard, no way hes his equal

NeilPatrickBanana
02-26-2013, 11:53 AM
Trying to find the highlight of spiller taking a screen pass for a long td vs the Browns... Urbik destroys Jackson and Ward on that play

Levitre is a dominant interior guard, but Urbik is the guy who gets to 2nd level and spring those monster gains in buffalo

Side note : my first post on this board was about wanting Cordy Glenn in last years draft... Love that buffalo line!

K Train
02-26-2013, 11:55 AM
Trying to fund the highlight of soiled taking a screen pass for a long td vs the Browns... Urbik destroys Jackson and Ward on that play

Levitre is a dominant interior guard, but Urbik is the guy who gets to 2nd level and spring those monster gains in buffalo

Side note : my first post on this board was about wanting Cordy Glenn in last years draft... Love that buffalo line!
I was a huge fan of cordy glenn. He can be a pro bowler at 4 positions. Love that he can play LT, i never really doubted that but hed be the kind of guard to make DTs fake injuries