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ChucktownSteeler
02-17-2013, 10:20 AM
Good article:

http://www.post-gazette.com/stories/sports/steelers/steelers-sunday-spotlight-the-linebackers-a-legacy-in-jeopardy-675711/

strummerfan
02-17-2013, 10:39 AM
It makes no sense to draft a player in the first round that will take a couple of seasons to see the field. Warmack is going to drop into our laps and the line will be set for several years.

ChucktownSteeler
02-17-2013, 11:10 AM
You have to replenish the corp sometime. That arguement could be used every year, we would not have Timmons.

Our success (or lack there-of) is predicated on the play of the line backing corp.

It has to be linebacker. I think Hightower was the pick last year until DeCastro fell in our laps. We can't have number picks accross the OL at the expense of other positions.

BstripeYpaint
02-17-2013, 11:19 AM
Well, it hard to argue that we shouldn't maintain a focus on the O-line. Despite his height (6'2''), Warmack has generated enthusiasm among the talent scouts. We could use him for sure, but I don't think we can afford to overlook our gaps at other positions, especially at WR. I would much rather see us get C. Patterson (or an analogous talent) at WR before we make another selection at OG. With the imminent departure of Mike Wallace and the lingering questions about the durability of the other guys we have, we must get game-ready play makers right away. And then there's the issue of Heath's recovery! I truly hope he heals up fast; I don't want to think about the possibility that he will miss games this season.

strummerfan
02-17-2013, 11:21 AM
In case you missed it our defense wasn't/isn't the problem. It's our offense's inability to score, pass protect, and run that is the problem. Solidifying the offensive line will go a long way to improving our offense.

ChucktownSteeler
02-17-2013, 11:24 AM
WR as with RB don't need to be addressed in the first round, unless there is an Adrian Peterson or Jerry Rice available. The RB the Redskins got last year in the 6th round and Mike Wallace was in the third. Also, if you have number 1 picks across the OL in a few years it will be tough to afford them all. We have a good corp on the OL now, we need to add depth in the later rounds.

The glaring weakness now is at LB.

BstripeYpaint
02-17-2013, 11:26 AM
The linebacker position is clearly an area of great need for us too. We all know we need a new "edge rusher".

The linebacker position made me a huge Steeler fan!

We'll protect our legacy there.

ChucktownSteeler
02-17-2013, 11:34 AM
If Harrison is a cap casualty or he and Woodley are injured most of the season again, we don't have much behind them.

Generating sacks, turnovers, getting the ball in the offense's hands, and shortening the field all help generate points and victories as well.

BstripeYpaint
02-17-2013, 11:36 AM
I just don't know if we can take the risk of looking for our future play-makers on offense in the later rounds. Ben needs some new options now.

ChucktownSteeler
02-17-2013, 11:39 AM
Defense wins championships. We are generating very little pressure on opposing QBs, sacks are way down as are turnovers. We need to improve in all these defensive categories. We can get a capable RB and WR in the 3rd round and beyond.

ChucktownSteeler
02-17-2013, 11:41 AM
The offense can't score while the other team has the ball and our defense can't get off the field. How many completed third and longs have we seen by opposing defenses the past few years. I am not talking about third and five, either. I am talking about third and 17 or longer.

BstripeYpaint
02-17-2013, 11:44 AM
Dear ChucktownSteeler,

I'm with you on the "defense wins championships". If the talent pool on the offensive side is sufficiently deep, I'd be delighted to see us get a great, new LB in round 1. Incidentally, who is your favorite prospect at LB position this year?

Respectfully,
BSYP

ChucktownSteeler
02-17-2013, 12:03 PM
Dear ChucktownSteeler,

I'm with you on the "defense wins championships". If the talent pool on the offensive side is sufficiently deep, I'd be delighted to see us get a great, new LB in round 1. Incidentally, who is your favorite prospect at LB position this year?

Respectfully,
BSYP

Per my Mock 1.0, I like Barkevious Mingo of LSU. If we go another direction in the first round, I mind seeing us draft Minter (ILB), in the second round, also of LSU. There is also a pretty darn good LB fromGeorgia, that we could think about on the first round.

My all-time favorite Steeler, Jack Lambert of course.

Zachintosh66
02-17-2013, 12:37 PM
i think if they sit @ 17 it will prolly be a LB, unless someone slips

however, i wouldnt be shocked to see them move back and pick up a few picks as well...

BstripeYpaint
02-17-2013, 12:39 PM
B. Mingo seems compelling.

Guys like Brandon Jenkins (OLB, Florida State) and Khaseem Green (Rutgers) might also be attractive prospects for us. Jenkins is fast and has long arms; Green was described as a player who "rips violently at the ball as he makes tackles" and has "an incredible ability to create turnovers." Green and Jenkins are projected to go in rounds 2-3, so they may well be there for us if we take Patterson, Etz or Eifert in round 1.

Lambert is my all-time favorite too.

JensK
02-17-2013, 01:51 PM
Both Jarvis Jones and Dion Jordan, to me, are both better prospects for our system than Mingo. I would love either though.

BstripeYpaint
02-17-2013, 02:17 PM
Yes, Dion Jordan probably sits above Jenkins & Green, although I was moved by the description of Green's strengths (i.e. "he rips violently at the ball as he makes tackles" and has "an incredible ability to create turnovers"). We need a play-maker like that.

It's too bad about Jarvis Jones's spinal issue; aside from that, he is a remarkable prospect. Apparently, his health issue is not a small matter. It certainly elevates the risk with his selection.

Raleigh Steel
02-18-2013, 05:56 AM
WR as with RB don't need to be addressed in the first round, unless there is an Adrian Peterson or Jerry Rice available. The RB the Redskins got last year in the 6th round and Mike Wallace was in the third. Also, if you have number 1 picks across the OL in a few years it will be tough to afford them all. We have a good corp on the OL now, we need to add depth in the later rounds.

The glaring weakness now is at LB.

using this logic, harrison wasn't drafted and cut multiple times by us before landing a job...just saying.

if jarvis jones is there at 17 we have to take him. other than that, this pick can be used for anything because you could make a case for a need at almost every position. this will be a draft that is based on the old philosophy of BPA.

ChucktownSteeler
02-18-2013, 07:12 AM
using this logic, harrison wasn't drafted and cut multiple times by us before landing a job...just saying.

if jarvis jones is there at 17 we have to take him. other than that, this pick can be used for anything because you could make a case for a need at almost every position. this will be a draft that is based on the old philosophy of BPA.

Linebacker is the heart and soul of this team. Always has been, always will be. We need to re-stock our LB shelf. Harrison my be a cap casualty, then you have Worilds and Carter.

JensK
02-18-2013, 02:09 PM
Yes, Dion Jordan probably sits above Jenkins & Green, although I was moved by the description of Green's strengths (i.e. "he rips violently at the ball as he makes tackles" and has "an incredible ability to create turnovers"). We need a play-maker like that.

It's too bad about Jarvis Jones's spinal issue; aside from that, he is a remarkable prospect. Apparently, his health issue is not a small matter. It certainly elevates the risk with his selection.

To me, Jarvis Jones is every bit the prospect Von Miller was coming out of college. Yes, the spinal stuff is very scary. There has also been reports that his work ethic is less than ideal. However, he is an amazing prospect who is such a disruptive force.

I love Dion Jordan in our system because he has been asked to do literally the same thing in college which we ask of our LBs, including a lot of dropping back into coverage.

K Train
02-18-2013, 04:25 PM
it doesnt have to be anything in the first except a great player....a linebacker, wr, RB, TE, guard, or S/CB are all options in the first round.

I think the first pick will greatly dictate the second pick because if they take a player thats not an OLB or WR in the first, OLB and WR become greatly pressing needs in the next few rounds. In the first you cant pick to fill a need like you can in the second, the second and third round is a time to make sure you get your guy if you take a luxury pick in the first which is definitely possible....with warmack being the one to come to mind as a luxury pick

reaching in the first to fill need is how you end up with the only flop of a first round pick for us in over a decade with hood. Warmack will definitely be tough to pass on if hes there at 17 as most great players are tough to pass over.

Dream pick is still jarvis jones, hes this years david decastro for us....immediate need and incredible talent/value

coldrolled
02-18-2013, 07:43 PM
how many 3-4 defenses were used in the league at that time, when number 92 was bouncing around??

BstripeYpaint
02-21-2013, 07:26 PM
Jones could be our next perennial all-pro.

ChucktownSteeler
02-21-2013, 07:28 PM
I am a little concerned with Jones medical history.

coldrolled
02-22-2013, 09:07 AM
Hood was 32.. thats not a hot first round pick.. lets see how newsome picks one this year at 32...

coldrolled
02-22-2013, 09:16 AM
I am a little concerned with Jones medical history.

jones is skipping the combine? maybe we can get warmack #1 and Jones #2