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thethinkingguy
01-22-2013, 08:20 PM
All, my partner and I feel there is a dearth of quantitative analysis being applied to the Steelers. Thus, we've founded the site: http://www.steelcitystats.com.

I encourage you to check out our first article, entitled "Why did the Steelers Miss the 2013 Playoffs?"

We use basic statistical analysis and some intermediate methods to obtain which variables (e.g., passer rating) are important to predicting why teams have won or lost games. No data analysis can provide a 100% accurate conclusion, but I think you'll see that the data speaks for itself.

If you like it, please forward it to friends and family. If you don't like it, please let us know what we can do better.

ChucktownSteeler
01-22-2013, 09:14 PM
Dr. Demming would be proud.

coldrolled
01-22-2013, 09:17 PM
Teams have to protect their quarterbacks and keep them upright. They are the single biggest factor in the choice of whether or not a team locks up a win, gives a game away, or relies on secondary variables and the Football Gods to determine the outcome


Correct..... Draft Warmack or Fisher... #1

NeilPatrickBanana
01-23-2013, 12:07 AM
Thank you for the insight and effort. Job well done! I;ve been making the same argument without nearly the level of detail...

Don't expect much support around here... zealots are the majority.

jpele
01-23-2013, 10:06 AM
Teams have to protect their quarterbacks and keep them upright. They are the single biggest factor in the choice of whether or not a team locks up a win, gives a game away, or relies on secondary variables and the Football Gods to determine the outcome


Correct..... Draft Warmack or Fisher... #1

Green Bay 11-5...Aaron Rodgers sacked 51 times.

NeilPatrickBanana
01-23-2013, 02:37 PM
bump

strummerfan
01-23-2013, 05:57 PM
Green Bay 11-5...Aaron Rodgers sacked 51 times.

True, but they also stretch the field unlike the 2012 Steelers.

thethinkingguy
01-23-2013, 09:57 PM
Strummerfan and jpele have both provided true statements. To clarify (jpele), when we talk in our article about keeping the QB "upright", we really mean "healthy" and in the game. Backup QBs (that don't wear New England jerseys) are the ones bringing down the NFL average QB rating. Also, surprisingly (at least to us it was), sacks are not statistically significant to wins. They aren't included in passer rating, so we tried including them in a model, but they failed hypothesis testing...thus were not significant.

Pittsburgh doesn't have enough weapons on offense right now (see paragraph in the article about the poor YAC in the Burgh) to realistically expect Leftwich or Batch to win games. Batch pulled off a miracle against BAL and the Football Gods smiled upon him that day. But, to expect that to be sustainable is to expect it to snow every day in all places except your driveway.

NeilPatrickBanana
01-23-2013, 10:00 PM
i'd like to see the same data laid out using QBR instead of passer rating.

SuperSteelers
01-24-2013, 02:33 PM
I have two eyes and don't need stats to tell me the Steelers are just plain awful.

coldrolled
01-24-2013, 08:59 PM
Green Bay 11-5...Aaron Rodgers sacked 51 times.

If ben made it thru the KC game we would be 11-5 also. and ben would be sacked 51 times...

OL needed... Ben needs a wall of support. the running backs need holes. Haley needs play action to use ben right.......

BRICKTOWN BEAST
01-24-2013, 11:44 PM
This is really awesome stuff dude. I know how you say the 3 variables are the most significant. But what happens when you add ALL the variables into the equation? You've listed over 40 variables that are somewhat significant in games what if they were all added? Also it would be interesting to see how play performance plays a role. If every player was accounted for in the NFL and there was a mean of performance on a scale 1 to 10 specific to each position could that be what makes a team better? For example the Patriots have a combined performance level of 180 or something compared to the Chiefs at 120? and how much does coaching play a role?

But this does make a lot of sense. Its a passing league now but back in the good days running would be a much more significant variable and all your data speaks for itself.