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VTSteelerfan
12-26-2012, 08:11 AM
I think I would try to fix the running game first.. We need to be two dimentional.. Without the running game they just came after us with blitz after blitz.

Nolrog
12-26-2012, 08:36 AM
Without question, the ability to pressure the opposing QB. IMO, that's the #1 biggest issue this team has, and once we sort that out, we'll start seeing more take aways and better pass defense as a result.

On the non-player side, I'd look to get Bobby April as special teams coach, and a new strength and conditioning guy to see if we could reduce the amount of injuries. I'd also look for the best OL coach that's out there, which would benefit this young bunch.

Stone
12-26-2012, 08:44 AM
Without question, the ability to pressure the opposing QB. IMO, that's the #1 biggest issue this team has, and once we sort that out, we'll start seeing more take aways and better pass defense as a result.

On the non-player side, I'd look to get Bobby April as special teams coach, and a new strength and conditioning guy to see if we could reduce the amount of injuries. I'd also look for the best OL coach that's out there, which would benefit this young bunch.

This is pretty much what I would like to see. Along with a more creative offense to take advantage of the talent we have at QB/WR.

K Train
12-26-2012, 10:25 AM
This is pretty much what I would like to see. Along with a more creative offense to take advantage of the talent we have at QB/WR.

come on, the talent we have at WR blew a few games with dropsies and fumbles and all get equal blame from me. Playcalling cant be blamed when they drop the ball running down the seam on the way to the endzone. Wallace, Sanders, and brown were all guilty of ****ing up way to bad.

this team needs to get a pass rushing OLB. i dont think letting harrison go is the best idea, but i think moving him inside and getting a stud outside guy would be a delicious combo.

Safety, Guard, and RB would be my next 3 needs

Real Deal Steel
12-26-2012, 10:31 AM
The O-line..period. The conditioning of the linemen have to be brought into question. All these inordinate amount of injuries to the O-line for the last three years tells me that they are not doing something right. Fix the O-line and then the running game works.

Real Deal Steel
12-26-2012, 10:33 AM
As far as the pressure on the Opposing QB,

Hampton has been done for years now and we get no push up the middle;which is the best way to disrupt most QB's. And Harrison and Woodley are not what they used to be. So..with a mid-round-first round pick, what will be addressed first?

NeilPatrickBanana
12-26-2012, 10:37 AM
Pass rush

steelersbabex25
12-26-2012, 10:41 AM
How does anyone think that pass rush is our biggest need? We had the #1 defense in the league. #1 pass #2 rush. Now, our offense on the other hand was #21. We need to fix our offense (i.e offensive line, RB) way before we need to fix our pass rush.

K Train
12-26-2012, 11:13 AM
How does anyone think that pass rush is our biggest need? We had the #1 defense in the league. #1 pass #2 rush. Now, our offense on the other hand was #21. We need to fix our offense (i.e offensive line, RB) way before we need to fix our pass rush.
thats all well and good but the fact that their pass defense was good with such a poor inconsistent pass rush is incredible, but that lack of pass rush did end up hurting them in several games even if the numbers dont show that.

the oline is primed to be something special. there is still a need for a guard, but gilbert, pouncey, decastro, and adams moving forward with starks quietly having a career year is gonna provide some stability on the oline.

Ben was the #2-5 ranked QB consistently for a while, then he got hurt and things spiraled downward quickly. Pass rush goes a long way though, the need to bring in a sack guy, it would be a game changer for an already pretty stout defense even if people dont want to admit the defense is acutally pretty good

Zachintosh66
12-26-2012, 11:47 AM
Pass Rush or RB

Crash
12-26-2012, 11:49 AM
How does anyone think that pass rush is our biggest need? We had the #1 defense in the league.

Good God........:sleepy:

Crash
12-26-2012, 12:08 PM
Nothing can be corrected until Art Rooney II realizes that he's the #1 problem.

K Train
12-26-2012, 12:20 PM
oh please.....

NeilPatrickBanana
12-26-2012, 12:21 PM
How does anyone think that pass rush is our biggest need? We had the #1 defense in the league. #1 pass #2 rush. Now, our offense on the other hand was #21. We need to fix our offense (i.e offensive line, RB) way before we need to fix our pass rush.

How do people still use such ridiculous "rankings" when far better advanced statistics are available?

Anyone who thinks the Steelers had the #1 defense in football is clearly delusional

steelchamp204
12-26-2012, 12:23 PM
Nothing can be corrected until Art Rooney II realizes that he's the #1 problem.

How and the **** is Rooney the problem? :lol:

It is the pass protection and run blocking. The offensive line is our main priority, we need a coach when Kugler leaves to straighten these guys out. Any decent running back will be able to run with a good Oline, and then Ben will actually have time to pass the ball to guys.

Crash
12-26-2012, 12:53 PM
How and the **** is Rooney the problem?

Who fired Arians over the wishes of his head coach and demand that a HOF QB change the way he plays?

Art II probably loved the first 59 minutes of that game Sunday. It was all about running and defense. The QB was an afterthought.

But I bet he didn't like it when the same QB couldn't save their *** in the final minute.

Art has 2 choices he has to make.

1. Allow the head coach to hire his own OC and to allow them to run the offense with said HOF QB as they see fit.

or

2. Let the HOF go to a team that will use him, then the Steelers can stockpile their roster with quality running backs and defense.

If Art wants 1970s football, he has to do it the right way.

Not with 6 rounders from Georgia Tech, and not with un-drafted running backs from Bowie State.

Enough of the square peg round hole bullshit that this season was on offense.

K Train
12-26-2012, 01:03 PM
it is HILARIOUS the backpedaling on bruce arians, he was an abortion of a playcaller. jesus ****ing christ there is a reason that it took LEUKEMIA to open the door for him lol

mendenhall should be brought back, he'll be healthy next year and he really should just run away with the job..not like hes gonna be expensive.

steelchamp204
12-26-2012, 01:21 PM
Who fired Arians over the wishes of his head coach and demand that a HOF QB change the way he plays?

Art II probably loved the first 59 minutes of that game Sunday. It was all about running and defense. The QB was an afterthought.

But I bet he didn't like it when the same QB couldn't save their *** in the final minute.

Art has 2 choices he has to make.

1. Allow the head coach to hire his own OC and to allow them to run the offense with said HOF QB as they see fit.

or

2. Let the HOF go to a team that will use him, then the Steelers can stockpile their roster with quality running backs and defense.

If Art wants 1970s football, he has to do it the right way.

Not with 6 rounders from Georgia Tech, and not with un-drafted running backs from Bowie State.

Enough of the square peg round hole bullshit that this season was on offense.

Everyone wanted BA gone, It was time to move on from him. It really was. The run run pass thing of the Steelers history has brought tremendous success. It is was what got us there in the past and present.The pass happy thing is only a style for now. Wait and see what this line can do when healthy. I would rather see the Steelers win a game like they did against the Giants than to see Ben throw the ball 35+ times a game.

Crash
12-26-2012, 01:52 PM
Everyone wanted BA gone, It was time to move on from him. It really was.

Why should Arians be fired and LeBeau got to stay? They should have both been fired or kept.


The run run pass thing of the Steelers history has brought tremendous success.

What did they win with all that running, and all that defense from 1983-2003?


Wait and see what this line can do when healthy.

It's not the injuries that kill the line. It's how we use the line. Who's on the field WITH the line. The FORMATIONS we use WITH the line.


I would rather see the Steelers win a game like they did against the Giants than to see Ben throw the ball 35+ times a game.

Then Ben and his $20 mil cap hit the next three seasons has to go. You don't pay a QB franchise money to be 1992 Neil O'Donnell.

Crash
12-26-2012, 01:53 PM
it is HILARIOUS the backpedaling on bruce arians, he was an abortion of a playcaller. jesus ****ing christ there is a reason that it took LEUKEMIA to open the door for him lol

mendenhall should be brought back, he'll be healthy next year and he really should just run away with the job..not like hes gonna be expensive.

Arians had one fault.

Haley has twice as many.

But one thing about Arians was he at least tried to use his talent.

Haley's an *** kisser who's only here because of his Daddy.

Zachintosh66
12-26-2012, 02:27 PM
i would rather Doug Legursky start every game than have BA back on the 'burgh sidelines...

I agree with K about Mendy... but his "want" to return to Pittsburgh may not be there.

HUNT4SEVEN
12-26-2012, 03:21 PM
The main thing that has to change is these Diva attitudes if we are going to be successful moving forward these Diva's have to get there heads out of there asses,far as drafting is concern i'm with K Train move Harrison inside and get another kick azz OLB,we need a Safety, Possible CB if Lewis leaves, DL and we need a Guard,the way Decastro is playing right now he is looking like a bust,hopefully he will turn it around in year two like Troy did, we will need a receiver because Wallace is gone after March but i'll believe we will get one late like we did Brown,Wallace,Sanders, we need a new conditioning coach, a real old school OL coach,and some NEW defensive schemes to cater to the talent we have on the roster,i'm sooooooo happy Dan R is back i believe he will get this ship righted ASAP...

Töm87
12-26-2012, 03:26 PM
One name Björn Werner!
The Kid would be the exactly what we need in terms of pass rushing.
I know he is projected to be´a Top 10 draft. However, it seems that Non American players are often drafted lower compared to the projections. Some GMS are simply not trusting non Americans too much it seems. So maybe maybe, we couls steal hinm in the draft!

DIESELMAN
12-26-2012, 04:49 PM
Arians had one fault.

Haley has twice as many.

But one thing about Arians was he at least tried to use his talent.

Haley's an *** kisser who's only here because of his Daddy.

Arians only had 1 fault? lol he had way more then that. He never made in game changes, he came up with a game plan and by God stuck to it, especially when it wasn't working. Predictable play calling, no ****ing imagination unless you call bubble screens 15 times a game imagination. Did NOT use the talent we have on the team. Haley, no matter how much game film he watched in the offseason had no idea what kind of offensive personnel he had. Now he has 1 year under his belt and show us next season what he's made of as a OC. What this team really needs is better leadership and more maturity in the locker room. They also need a identity on offense and a better pass rush on defense.

Goodfrom55
12-26-2012, 05:04 PM
Fix the O-Line 1st. Do that, and the rest of the offense will take care of itself.

Second to that would be the D-line. Generate pressure without rushing 6 guys and no one would have to play 10 yards off the WR; they could be up in their grill.

Not Glamorous, but O and D Lines are the lifeblood to the success of any football team.

Goodfrom55
12-26-2012, 05:06 PM
mendenhall should be brought back, he'll be healthy next year and he really should just run away with the job..not like hes gonna be expensive.

Could not agree more, talent wise. But he also has to have the heart.

SteelerCountry58
12-26-2012, 05:27 PM
Draft wise: Safety/Linebacker should be our first pick,whatever better player is available.
I'd lean more towards LB at this pick,we can get a stud at this pick. We can go Safety with
the second pick,a good one like Jefferson from OU or Rambo might still be here at this pick.
Third overall pick I'd go DE/DT(Long/Hunt/Steinkuhler) may still be here at this spot.
4th pick would be best available from the O Line,RB,QB crop. 5th on, go depth at need positions.

O line and D line needs better talent and depth. Younger backup QB,stable running attack(maybe
take a RB around the 4th round(Will Lattimore drop this far considering his knee issues?) I'd take
Zach Line from SMU instead though if he drops down here. Kid is a workhorse FB/RB hybrid.
TE and WR should be fine for now.

Clevelandsux
12-26-2012, 05:43 PM
I would consider restructuring guys like Troy.,Harrison. You can't be giving this guy a ton of money when he's hurt all the time. I wouldn't throw a ton of money at either Wallace or mendenhall. However we could retain them because I think neither will get big money elsewhere from free agency. I could cut that putz Willie colon. I would start replacing guys like keisel , Hampton , foote. Not cutting them, but gradually start grooming there heirs. I would look at secondary in draft, Ike's getting up there in years too. And I would get a good rb in the draft or free agency. Sorry don't think redman,Rainey, or Dwyer are anything but third down backs. And of course get a serviceable back up qb. Charlie's old, Byron's hurt too much.

Crash
12-26-2012, 06:13 PM
Predictable play calling, no ****ing imagination unless you call bubble screens 15 times a game imagination.

Haley uses bubble screens worse than Arians did.

Arians used to tip run or pass based on formation. But under Arians Ben went to two Pro Bowls, 2 Super Bowls, and threw 26 TD passes in 2009.

Under Haley the Steelers are no better than 8-8.

Haley makes Arians look like Einstein.

Crowned
12-26-2012, 06:19 PM
Haley uses bubble screens worse than Arians did.

Arians used to tip run or pass based on formation. But under Arians Ben went to two Pro Bowls, 2 Super Bowls, and threw 26 TD passes in 2009.

Under Haley the Steelers are no better than 8-8.

Haley makes Arians look like Einstein.

Ben was well on his way to the pro-bowl, if not the MVP award before the injury.

polamalu43
12-26-2012, 06:31 PM
Just joined the Steeler Addicts............been following for a while now.

OLine - it is actually not bad. Pouncey, Colon, DeCastro, Gilbert, Adams (Beacham, Foster, Legursky)

polamalu43
12-26-2012, 06:59 PM
Just joined the Steeler Addicts............been following for a while now.

OLine - it is actually not bad. Pouncey, Colon, DeCastro, Gilbert, Starks, Adams (Beacham, Foster, Legursky)
- I think we can look for best available project in the 5th to 7th round

RB - I really think our issue is not committing to one back and the play calling is not condusive to our running game. I am really torn on Mendenhall leaving. I am not opposed to Dwyer, Redman though. I'd like to see more 2 back sets with Rainey in the game......we need this kid in space after catching a screen pass.

WR - Brown, Sanders, Cotchery, 4th Rounder, FA pickup
- I don't want to see Wallace go but can not see how he takes a discount and we can afford his silly request

TE - Paulson, 2FA pickups til Heath is back

QB - call me crazy but I would keep Old man batch as our number 3 and find a younger back up (I see a FA pickup this year)

DLine - drives me nuts......McLendon needs to start with Heyward and Kiesel. Hampton is gone, Hood is backup and we need a stud on the line. Either 1st or 2nd rounder

LB - Harrison (another year), Woodley, Timmons, Spence (Worilds, Foote for cheap one year deal, I really like Adrian Robinson and he may be backup to Worilds in 2014, Prob 1st or 2nd rounder depending on best available)

CB - Taylor, Lewis must be signed, C Allen, need a 1st to 3rd rounder here. Maybe C Brown as the Nickel??...maybe a FA

Safety - Polamalu, Clark, W Allen ( did very well when needed), Another early rounder

Guys that must go this year cause they are dead weight......Hampton, Mundy, Leftwich, Pope, Sylvester , B Johnson

We need about 5 picks in the first 3 rounds this year to shore up the ship.

Here is my Draft 1 through 7
Round one - DL
Round two - LB
Round Three - CB
Round four - WR
Round five - CB
Round six - WR
Round seven - OL

Zachintosh66
12-26-2012, 07:03 PM
NOBODY complained about Haley when we were 6-3... since then our WRs, RBs, QBs and QB have missed tons of games due to injury. Coincidence... i think not. While we haven't really been healthy all year, we were almost healthy at one point and the O was firing on all cylinders, we could run and pass. Injuries have taken their toll, this year it bit us and the franchise didn't have the talent behind them ready to go.

#Haleyisnttheproblem

DIESELMAN
12-26-2012, 07:03 PM
Haley uses bubble screens worse than Arians did.

Arians used to tip run or pass based on formation. But under Arians Ben went to two Pro Bowls, 2 Super Bowls, and threw 26 TD passes in 2009.

Under Haley the Steelers are no better than 8-8.

Haley makes Arians look like Einstein.

It's Haley's 1st year as OC in Pittsburgh, were you expecting a undefeated season? I guess you want BA back too...

DIESELMAN
12-26-2012, 07:04 PM
NOBODY complained about Haley when we were 6-3... since then our WRs, RBs, QBs and QB have missed tons of games due to injury. Coincidence... i think not. While we haven't really been healthy all year, we were almost healthy at one point and the O was firing on all cylinders, we could run and pass. Injuries have taken their toll, this year it bit us and the franchise didn't have the talent behind them ready to go.

#Haleyisnttheproblem

:yellowthumb:

Crash
12-26-2012, 07:15 PM
I guess you want BA back too...

Over Haley? In a minute. Haley's micro-managing of the offense is what kills it.


Originally Posted by Zachintosh66
NOBODY complained about Haley when we were 6-3

Don't speak for me. Every board I post on I said it all year, you can't try and live on 3rd down all year. They had to stop forcing the bad run game and mix things up.

FastWillie39
12-26-2012, 07:18 PM
First off, Haley needs to go. The animosity between him and Ben was clear all season. Second, can we FINALLY DRAFT A CORNER in the first round or two? Every year I beg them to do it and they continue to not do so. I know the last two seasons we were number one against the pass, which I dont understand, but Ike is getting old, Keenan was okay, but Cortez was shakey at best and Curtis Brown is awful. Every time there seems to be a 3rd and passing situation, the other team always attacks our nickelback. Once Ike leaves we'll be doomed. DRAFT A CORNER

Crash
12-26-2012, 07:31 PM
First off, Haley needs to go. The animosity between him and Ben was clear all season.

I don't agree here. If Ben has any animosity with ANYONE, it's Art II.

Cortez Allen IMO has a chance to be really good if he's allowed to play press coverage.

Ditto for Lewis.

Zachintosh66
12-26-2012, 07:42 PM
The animosity between him and Ben was clear all season.

this is a joke... this is something the media wanted to happen. Players and coaches are not supposed to be buddy-buddy. Its a Player-Coach Relationship.

Goodfrom55
12-26-2012, 08:01 PM
Steelers are set at corner as long as Lewis re-signs. That would give them 3 cover corners.
Would like to see Spence play and see how he performs especially with his speed. Foote is a consummate pro, but I have to believe he will not be retained next season. Sly has done nothing, time to go. How could a guy who NEVER plays always be injured?

Realistically, Haley will be retained and I expect much improvement in the offense overall in 2013. One thing that no one has mentioned is I would like to see a change in phlosophy regarding Steelers conditioning. Way too many injuries and hammy's. These boys need to spend more time in the weight room and doing cardio, and probably most important - doing more stretching.

Crash
12-26-2012, 08:09 PM
That's true. But also how many injuries occurred when bodies were rolled up on?

Too much congestion at the LOS. That's what happens when we have #83, #81, and #46 on the field at the same time telling everyone in the country that we are running.

Having the RB line up 8 1/2 yards behind the LOS on 3rd and 1 has to stop also. He has to cover almost TEN YARDS, to gain ONE.

Nolrog
12-26-2012, 08:12 PM
How does anyone think that pass rush is our biggest need? We had the #1 defense in the league. #1 pass #2 rush. Now, our offense on the other hand was #21. We need to fix our offense (i.e offensive line, RB) way before we need to fix our pass rush.

Uhhhhhh.

Get7With7
12-26-2012, 08:16 PM
To answer the original post, the first thing the Steelers have to fix is Art Rooney II. He has to stay out and let the coaches coach.

steelchamp204
12-27-2012, 12:30 AM
It was Haley's first ****ing season, holy ****. Cut the guy some ****ing slack. Move on from BA and stfu, he isnt coming back.

Crash
12-27-2012, 12:55 AM
Why? Arians never got slack. Why should Haley? What's going to make Haley change? It could be 1 year, it could be 10 years, he'll still micro-manage the offense, he'll still sub entirely too much, he'll still be obsessed with getting no hopers like Paulson and Johnson on the field.

Haley's failed dreams of playing ended because of his back. He's living his failed dreams through these players.

The best thing that could happen is Bill Bidwell hires him back to coach the Cards.

steelchamp204
12-27-2012, 02:16 AM
Why? Arians never got slack. Why should Haley? What's going to make Haley change? It could be 1 year, it could be 10 years, he'll still micro-manage the offense, he'll still sub entirely too much, he'll still be obsessed with getting no hopers like Paulson and Johnson on the field.

Haley's failed dreams of playing ended because of his back. He's living his failed dreams through these players.

The best thing that could happen is Bill Bidwell hires him back to coach the Cards.

Call Rooney and just tell him it would be a good idea to hire a new OC every single season until we make the playoffs then. You must be one of them fans who has sunglasses on every year and thinks that they should win the superbowl every year. This season had no chance whatsoever due to injuries. Injuries on offense/defense constantley week after week. You know what one important aspect of a playoff team needs? The main thing is staying healthy.

Mostly every week this season we had a different offensive line.

Missed Harrison for part of the season, Woodley and Harrison played how many games together?

Troy was out for most of the season.

Ben was out for 3 weeks

Ike injured

Keenan Lewis injured

Adams after he established himself as the starting RT got injured

DD before the season started

Pouncey being banged up

Colon being injured forcing Legs to start at center

Mendenhall missing significant time

The only person I think out of our starting lineups this season that has stayed healthy has been Starks/Hampton/Keisel/Timmons/Foote/Wallace

Brown being out a couple weeks.

This team has been dismantled with injuries this season, so to put the blame on Haley alone is an easy way out for an argument. This team is lucky as hell to be given a chance to finish the season at 8-8. So please. Stop acting like this team is going 12-4 or 13-3 every single year. Injuries add up over time. Give Tomlin/Haley a couple more seasons to see what they can do with a healthy Pittsburgh team.

Goodfrom55
12-27-2012, 08:46 AM
Having the RB line up 8 1/2 yards behind the LOS on 3rd and 1 has to stop also. He has to cover almost TEN YARDS, to gain ONE.

Never understood that myself, and then he line up single set to boot. he has no chance.

I said this in another post that the Steelers don't need re-invent the wheel here. They just have to clean it up a little bit. They always have a couple plays per game that allow the other team to hang around and take tie the game or outright win the game. that is the stuff that needs to be eliminated and cleaned up. IMO, that's gets cleaned up by running a more disciplined camp and getting rid of "Club Tomlin" and turning training camp into what it is supposed to be: a miserable grueling football experience to whip guys minds and bodies into shape.

Nolrog
12-27-2012, 09:40 AM
The main thing is staying healthy.


Spence blew out his knee before the season started. Heath did as well in week 16.

NeilPatrickBanana
12-27-2012, 09:46 AM
Injuries are an excuse... every team faces a lot of injuries in the NFL today. The Packers are going to the playoffs. Their offensive line was banged up and ****** all year. They have NO running game. They lost Matthews and Woodson, and countless others on their defense. They lost Jennings and Nelson on offense at WR...

Their Franchise QB still got them into the show... Ours choked.

Real Deal Steel
12-27-2012, 09:56 AM
But the Packers QB wasn't hurt either. Don't forget that. Ben is not 100 percent. Also, last I checked, as great as Rodgers is, he folded like a house of cards against the Giants last year. At home.

Also, last I checked, Ben has two rings. Rodgers has one.

Raleigh Steel
12-27-2012, 10:07 AM
the running game needs fixed. whether it's the design, the blocking scheme, the o-line or a combo of everything. even if we are a pass first team, we still need to run the ball effectively. during the BA years, we didn't run the ball well. in the games where we did, we were our most efficient in scoring.

second, the conditioning has to improve. as a strength and conditioning coach, i know not all injuries can be prevented but a lot can though better conditioning.

third, the d-line needs to improve their play. the steelers have to win in the trenches and they aren't. if they can everything else will take care of themselves.

steelchamp204
12-27-2012, 10:22 AM
Spence blew out his knee before the season started. Heath did as well in week 16.

Thanks Nol, it was late. I didnt really put Spence in there because of Tomlins stuborness to play rookie lb's.

jpele
12-27-2012, 12:54 PM
Nothing can be corrected until Art Rooney II realizes that he's the #1 problem.

That statement is as dumb as the constant whine about needing a conditioning coach

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Zachintosh66
12-27-2012, 01:49 PM
Thanks Nol, it was late. I didnt really put Spence in there because of Tomlins stuborness to play rookie lb's.

Coreection... Tomlins stuborness to play ANY rookies

Nolrog
12-27-2012, 01:51 PM
Thanks Nol, it was late. I didnt really put Spence in there because of Tomlins stuborness to play rookie lb's.

I actually get the felling that Spence would have played.

But yeah, Tomlin is very stubborn about playing rookies, or 2nd year guys, or 3rd year guys. . . maybe by the 4th year they could get a snap or two. This is one of the big problems on the defense. When we have guys go down, the back ups are unpreparred to step in because they never get any time in the games.

steelchamp204
12-27-2012, 02:07 PM
Coreection... Tomlins stuborness to play ANY rookies

Correction on YOUR spelling of "coreection" is correction :lol: Yea, you got my point, I should have said ANY rookies. I forgot because of Adams playing this year and DD. Yes, Tomlin is stubborn as hell giving any rookies reps. I wish Tomlin would play his 1st and 2nd round guys more when they get drafted. I can understand the later round picks, but damn, dont wait 3 years down the road only to find out that they can't play in this legue.

Crash
12-27-2012, 02:25 PM
#1 picks sitting the bench on defense is LeBeau's trademark, not Tomlin's.