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Nolrog
12-23-2012, 07:17 PM
So if the season ended now, here's how the top of the draft will look. For teams with a tied record, the team that has the weaker strength of schedule (SoS) picks first of the tied teams. I think, that even though San Diego beat the Jets, they pick ahead of them because the draft is based on SoS and has no head to head component.

1) 2-13: Kansas City (SOS: .486)
2) 2-13: Jacksonville (.549)
3) 4-11: Oakland (.466)
4) 4-11: Philly (.511)
5) 4-11: Detroit (.570)
6) 5-10: Buffalo (.498)
7) 5-10: Tennessee (.536)
8) 5-9: Cleveland (.478)
9) 5-9: Arizona (.538)
10) 6-9: San Diego (.466)
11) 6-9: Tampa (.482)
12) 6-9: Carolina (.516)
13) 6-9: Jets (.518)
14) 7-8: Pittsburgh (.473)
15) 7-8: Miami (.482)
16) 7-8: New Orleans (.529)
17) 7-7-1: St Louis

This will change of course as afternoon games finish and with next weeks games. In an absolute best (worst?) case scenario, we could get as high as 11th, if San Diego, Tampa and the Jets all won and Pitt lost (couldn't pass San Diego for 10th because they had an easier schedule.)

scudmissile29
12-23-2012, 07:44 PM
start a congo line and lead phillip thomas into our sex dungeon.

Zachintosh66
12-23-2012, 07:47 PM
we will prolly trade out round one and bring in 2 round two busts, lol *currentlypesimistic

Real Deal Steel
12-23-2012, 07:50 PM
We need to keep that high pick because Colbert is too stupid to make good picks with two second round picks.

cbrunn
12-23-2012, 09:08 PM
I'm pretty sure it only costed like a 4th round pick to move up like 6 spots in the 1st last year ... if that's the value again this year

best case scenario is Jarvis Jones or Teo slip to around 8-10 and we can trade a 4th round and move up and draft one of those

Realistically we can draft Alec Ogeltree

Worst we take a chance on some boom or bust athletic pass rusher like Dion Jordan or Ziggy Ansuh

I wouldn't mind a trade back , but historically Colbert hasn't been a great 2nd round drafter (at least that I can remember recently)

Nolrog
12-23-2012, 09:52 PM
I'll have to look it up, but I don't think a 4th round pick would net you 6 spots. Seems to be too little. EDIT: The Pats moved from 31 to 25 at the cost of a 4th round. But higher in the draft, they get much more expensive. The Eagles moved from 15 to 12 at the cost of a 4th and a 6th. The browns moved from 4 to 3 and it cost them a 4th, 5th and 7th. And the big one, the Redskins moved from 6 to 2 and it cost them their 2nd last year and their next two firsts (a hefty price.)

If we do wind up drafting at 14, there's no way I'd trade that to get out of the first. At that position, we should be looking for a big time impact player. In fact, I'd be looking to trade the #3 to move up into the top 10 if possible. That's how bad we need that defensive stud.

cbrunn
12-23-2012, 10:31 PM
I'll have to look it up, but I don't think a 4th round pick would net you 6 spots. Seems to be too little. EDIT: The Pats moved from 31 to 25 at the cost of a 4th round. But higher in the draft, they get much more expensive. The Eagles moved from 15 to 12 at the cost of a 4th and a 6th. The browns moved from 4 to 3 and it cost them a 4th, 5th and 7th. And the big one, the Redskins moved from 6 to 2 and it cost them their 2nd last year and their next two firsts (a hefty price.)

If we do wind up drafting at 14, there's no way I'd trade that to get out of the first. At that position, we should be looking for a big time impact player. In fact, I'd be looking to trade the #3 to move up into the top 10 if possible. That's how bad we need that defensive stud.

Thing with a trade back is try to get a 2nd and 1st round next year (which seems to be a very good draft class with the Juniors going back to school ( CJ Mosely , Anthony Barr , Louis Nix , Matt Elam (not confirmed but leaning towards staying I read))) or something like that

and this is a pretty deep draft , but not really a stud in the draft( at least to me) unless Jarvis Jones or Teo slips ... then yeah try to move up