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Real Deal Steel
11-27-2012, 04:36 PM
From Rotoworld.com:

The latest Steelers' depth chart lists Mike Wallace as a co-starter with Emmanuel Sanders.
Usually, the depth chart lists Wallace as a clear starter opposite Antonio Brown. Now it reads Wallace or Sanders. Over the last three weeks, 60 Minutes has just eight catches for 47 yards and one touchdown. He also had a poorly thrown ball bounce off his hands for an interception in last week's loss to the Browns. Mike Tomlin is throwing down the gauntlet at all positions.

Real Deal Steel
11-27-2012, 04:37 PM
Oh Wallacites, where arrrrrre yoooooouuuuu??? hehehehehe

ChucktownSteeler
11-27-2012, 04:45 PM
Where's Wallace?

connecticutsteel
11-27-2012, 04:50 PM
I,m not a wallicite but i will say that he is a not a good fit for haley's offense he needs BA'S offense where they look down field Wallace isn't a posscession WR he's aspeed guy look for the colts to sign him to an enormous contract next year if the Steelers let him go

muncher
11-27-2012, 04:51 PM
what a brilliant motivational move. im sure wallace really cares that he is co-starter............keep unleashing it tomlin

Zachintosh66
11-27-2012, 05:01 PM
Sanders > Wallace :stirpot:

LatrobePA
11-27-2012, 05:09 PM
Where's Wallace?

3rd I think.

K Train
11-27-2012, 05:19 PM
omgomgomgomg

i dont have a problem with sanders at all though, i love sanders...i was on board with brown being the better of the two from day one but ive always said that very well may not always be the case.

if anything this needs to get mike to play harder, hes gotta realize what this can do for his future here or elsewhere.


and its too bad we cant see batch and hoyer co starters

Real Deal Steel
11-27-2012, 05:34 PM
K,

I wish you were the starter at QB. You show me more heart then Lefty, Batch and Hoyer combined.

K Train
11-27-2012, 05:50 PM
well i throw kinda weird, more like a vince young/phillip rivers side arm motion but maybe with some coaching i could step in at the pro level

Clevelandsux
11-27-2012, 05:50 PM
Sounds like Tomlin is trying to light a fire in some of these guys asses (wallace and Mendenhall specifically)

papabaier
11-27-2012, 05:57 PM
Tomlin's BS can't light any one up. Everyone's tired of his cliches.

NorCalSteel
11-27-2012, 07:16 PM
Just like I said all summer...I hate being correct...lol

K Train
11-27-2012, 07:36 PM
up through the giants game wallace was having a good season, then ben gets hurt in the chiefs game and then hes a bum again to everyone because hes not putting up numbers, even though before ben got hurt dwyer was super effective putting up 100 yard games and so did redman even in dwyers absence, miller had 6 TDs and hasnt scored since.

mike wallace isnt the only one not stepping up since ben got hurt.

BLACKandGOLD
11-27-2012, 08:33 PM
I would much rather are Brown and Sanders be the starters. They go out and make plays while Wallace just looks like he doesn't want to be there. Good luck getting your big contract mike with that effort.....


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nick5574
11-27-2012, 08:51 PM
Maybe if they were to put Wallace back into the slot position where he started out and made all the huge plays he would be more successful. He just doesn't seem like an every down starting wide receiver especially in this offense. It seems like Brown and Sanders on the outsides with Wallace in the slot could be successful and he would draw more favorable match ups.

steelchamp204
11-28-2012, 01:32 AM
Oh Wallacites, where arrrrrre yoooooouuuuu??? hehehehehe

I stated a couple weeks ago that Id eat my crow on this one as I was a Wallace supporter. Now, who the hell has been backing Wallace the past few weeks? Can we have a genuine discussion about this topic without bringing this stupid **** up constantly? :yesnod:

Nolrog
11-28-2012, 07:34 AM
Wallace is not having a good season at all. It doesn't seem to me like he's focussed, and that lack of concentration is leading to the drops (more drops than I remember in past years.) In fairness, the Steelers are not really taking advantage of his strength (there's no question he has elite speed, but the Steelers haven't been very vertical this year) but Wallace hasn't shown he can be that all around receiver either. That's why Brown is a better receiver. He does more. And Sanders has been coming on this year as well.

Wallace has not helped himself out at all for free agency next year. And if I were the Steelers, there's no way I'd franchise him. He's not worth that much.

JensK
11-28-2012, 08:37 AM
up through the giants game wallace was having a good season, then ben gets hurt in the chiefs game and then hes a bum again to everyone because hes not putting up numbers, even though before ben got hurt dwyer was super effective putting up 100 yard games and so did redman even in dwyers absence, miller had 6 TDs and hasnt scored since.

mike wallace isnt the only one not stepping up since ben got hurt.

While that is correct, I still believe there is a difference between the players and that is their attitude. Wallace seems like a man who don't care anymore. Sure, Miller hasnt had any TDs, but he is giving it his all everytime he is on the field. Same with Redman (and I do not like Redman). Wallace don't really make any kind of effort to the ball right now, which is what really made him a very good WR before. He'd really attack the ball when he ran routes.

My point is, Wallace wants to be paid like a top WR, yet he does not strike me as being one right now. Might be the system, might be the lack of QB, might be something else entirely. The fact remains that he is not getting it done right now, nor does he strike me as a person who really wants to get it done.

I know that its obviously speculations as I cannot say if he cares or not, but I can say that watching him play now and last year, there is an immense difference in his body language.

Goodfrom55
11-28-2012, 10:41 AM
up through the giants game wallace was having a good season, then ben gets hurt in the chiefs game and then hes a bum again to everyone because hes not putting up numbers, even though before ben got hurt dwyer was super effective putting up 100 yard games and so did redman even in dwyers absence, miller had 6 TDs and hasnt scored since.

mike wallace isnt the only one not stepping up since ben got hurt.

I agree that other people have not stepped it up, but Wallace is the kicking dog here (unfortunately).

This is the way I evaluate Wallace as an elite WR or not, and not just over the last few games.

An elite WR makes his QB better.

In Wallace's case, does he make Ben a better QB or does Ben make Wallace a better WR?

IMO, Ben makes Wallace a better WR, which means he is not elite in my book. He can't beat the double team, he has questionable leadership issues, and onn the Steelers, he is not the go to guy. That said, I really like Wallace and appreciate the things he does for this team, but if a QB can't get him the ball, rather than work harder to get open / separation, he appears to pull back (effort wise).

Real Deal Steel
11-28-2012, 11:12 AM
up through the giants game wallace was having a good season, then ben gets hurt in the chiefs game and then hes a bum again to everyone because hes not putting up numbers, even though before ben got hurt dwyer was super effective putting up 100 yard games and so did redman even in dwyers absence, miller had 6 TDs and hasnt scored since.

mike wallace isnt the only one not stepping up since ben got hurt.

True..very, very true.

jnes1216
11-29-2012, 01:49 PM
Even if Wallace is not on the field for the ceremonious first play but plays every snap afterward, I think the message is clear to Wallace that the staff is not pleased with his production, etc. The media swarming his locker like vultures only strengthens that.
I'm not sure if his attitude/effort has changed this year for the worse or not. I remember him not always fighting for the ball in previous years too. Maybe since its a contract year its in the forefront of everyone's mind so you're seeing it more. Idk. I'm not in the states right now, so I haven't seen any games since before the chiefs game so I have limited info on it right now. Lets just hope he gets the message and comes out with a vengeance vs the ratbirds.

BlitzburghRockCity
11-29-2012, 01:55 PM
So why is it ok for Wallace to have less production when Ben isn't there? Sanders stepped up when Brown went down and when Ben went down. So did Cotchery before he got hurt. Wallace has no excuses. Just because you have a 3rd string QB you still have to make plays. Sure maybe you don't get as many but that doesn't excuse the constant lack of effort in jump balls or anything that isn't right into his hands.

Wallace will play on Sunday, Tomlin would be a fool not to play him. If he doesn't start, he doesn't start but he'll still play.

K Train
11-29-2012, 02:46 PM
So why is it ok for Wallace to have less production when Ben isn't there? Sanders stepped up when Brown went down and when Ben went down. So did Cotchery before he got hurt. Wallace has no excuses. Just because you have a 3rd string QB you still have to make plays. Sure maybe you don't get as many but that doesn't excuse the constant lack of effort in jump balls or anything that isn't right into his hands.

Wallace will play on Sunday, Tomlin would be a fool not to play him. If he doesn't start, he doesn't start but he'll still play.

3 particular plays come to mind...deep ball early in the game where batch just couldnt get him the ball, the slant that was picked off its easy to say he should have caught that but batch threw that ball way behind him. and the biggest wtf was wallace to the left 3rd down late in the game on an out pattern and batch just didnt drive the throw home and missed him so short on a short pass.....it does matter whos throwing the ball to an extent. he needs to play better no doubt but batch was so horrid last week and they played from behind so much, you cant just expect wallace to make all that go away.

hopefully they realize batch's SEVERE limitations and switch up the game plan this week

Black@Gold Forever32
11-29-2012, 03:50 PM
3 particular plays come to mind...deep ball early in the game where batch just couldnt get him the ball, the slant that was picked off its easy to say he should have caught that but batch threw that ball way behind him. and the biggest wtf was wallace to the left 3rd down late in the game on an out pattern and batch just didnt drive the throw home and missed him so short on a short pass.....it does matter whos throwing the ball to an extent. he needs to play better no doubt but batch was so horrid last week and they played from behind so much, you cant just expect wallace to make all that go away.

hopefully they realize batch's SEVERE limitations and switch up the game plan this week

I fee bad for Wallace in a way....I do think Wallace can give better effort but at the sametime I don't blame him since he doesn't have a long term deal in place.....The Steelers dropped the ball on how they handled Mike Wallace......I still hope he is resigned but I doubt it now......

muncher
11-29-2012, 06:19 PM
I fee bad for Wallace in a way....I do think Wallace can give better effort but at the sametime I don't blame him since he doesn't have a long term deal in place.....The Steelers dropped the ball on how they handled Mike Wallace......I still hope he is resigned but I doubt it now......

wallace doesnt have a long term deal because he turned it down. the steelers did drop the ball with wallace. they should have reduced his tender when they had the chance.

LatrobePA
11-29-2012, 06:43 PM
Wallace is the one dropping the ball now!

scudmissile29
11-30-2012, 04:49 AM
Hey Mike,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaG2Acg8n60

BlitzburghRockCity
12-02-2012, 11:24 AM
Co starter or not, the dude is going to play today and we need him to be great. Step up and be counted on, even when the pass isn't perfect.

Stone
12-02-2012, 11:29 AM
I,m not a wallicite but i will say that he is a not a good fit for haley's offense he needs BA'S offense where they look down field Wallace isn't a posscession WR he's aspeed guy look for the colts to sign him to an enormous contract next year if the Steelers let him go

Wallace has no heart......NONE! I'm not sure there is any offense that needs that......I know I wouldn't want him.


what a brilliant motivational move. im sure wallace really cares that he is co-starter............keep unleashing it tomlin

Wallace is obviously all about Wallace and nothing else, If he sees his "Fitzgerald type money" slipping away, he may wake up!

http://www.noutopia.com/Resources/image_One_trick_pony.jpg

Real Deal Steel
12-02-2012, 06:44 PM
I'm tired of Wallace dropping balls. He doesn't want to play. Let him sit for the rest of the season.

Real Deal Steel
12-02-2012, 06:45 PM
Batch gave that bastard a perfect pass. He doesn't want to be here. I've seen enough.

JensK
12-02-2012, 06:53 PM
Gimme some Plaxico!

scudmissile29
12-02-2012, 07:02 PM
Batch gave that bastard a perfect pass. He doesn't want to be here. I've seen enough.

someone kill him when he comes back lol

Clevelandsux
12-02-2012, 11:05 PM
sanders was awful too.

LatrobePA
12-02-2012, 11:22 PM
Sanders was dealing with a little pain, plus he's been money. He gets my pass!