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Stone
11-19-2012, 03:16 PM
A special on ESPN2 right now is using Mike Webster as an example and talking about how the league covered up medical reports on the effects of concussions.

The NFL is headed for an ugly future!

Real Deal Steel
11-19-2012, 03:19 PM
That's why their going overboard with their reaction to every concussion now.

Real Deal Steel
11-19-2012, 03:24 PM
What do yo mean "coverup" ??? It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that concussions are not good for the brain. We knew that back in the 70's. People are acting like they didn't know for the last 30 years that concussions were that bad. Everyone knew. It's just this new PC world we are living in that wants to take the violence out of a game that was born from violence.

The world is becoming to sissified. Football is a violent sport. But their trying to make Football into underwater basket weaving.

Stone
11-19-2012, 03:34 PM
What do yo mean "coverup" ??? It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that concussions are not good for the brain. We knew that back in the 70's. People are acting like they didn't know for the last 30 years that concussions were that bad. Everyone knew. It's just this new PC world we are living in that wants to take the violence out of a game that was born from violence.

The world is becoming to sissified. Football is a violent sport. But their trying to make Football into underwater basket weaving.

You're completely missing the point. The report indicates that studies were done and the results were presented to the NFL and the NFL buried them.

It has nothing to do with the current society wanting to stop the violence, it has to do with the fact the NFL doesn't give a flying **** about player safety, they are using all this current BS as a smokescreen.

If they cared about player safety, they would have a zero tolerance policy on HGH and PED's.....but that would impact the 11 billion dollar income.

If they cared about player safety, they would stop changing rules to create higher scoring games..... (QB's are passing more now than ever....and guess what? Pass plays produce the most injuries).....but that would impact the 11 billion dollar income.

If they cared about player safety, they would stop the players attempt to get on a highlight reel with every single play.....but that would impact the 11 billion dollar income.

Black@Gold Forever32
11-19-2012, 03:36 PM
I think most fans that have a clue know that Fuhrer Goodell's player safety is a farce.........

LarryNJ
11-19-2012, 05:59 PM
If they weren't being sued for billions it would be a different story.

Real Deal Steel
11-19-2012, 06:02 PM
You're completely missing the point. The report indicates that studies were done and the results were presented to the NFL and the NFL buried them.

It has nothing to do with the current society wanting to stop the violence, it has to do with the fact the NFL doesn't give a flying **** about player safety, they are using all this current BS as a smokescreen.

If they cared about player safety, they would have a zero tolerance policy on HGH and PED's.....but that would impact the 11 billion dollar income.

If they cared about player safety, they would stop changing rules to create higher scoring games..... (QB's are passing more now than ever....and guess what? Pass plays produce the most injuries).....but that would impact the 11 billion dollar income.

If they cared about player safety, they would stop the players attempt to get on a highlight reel with every single play.....but that would impact the 11 billion dollar income.

Got'cha. Totally agree. Goodall doesn't give a hot hoot about safety. Only more money for the owners. And trying to save that money from future lawsuits. Goodall is the anti-Christ of the NFL. Goodall=Damian (like Damian in the movie, "Omen")

Nolrog
11-19-2012, 06:17 PM
You're completely missing the point. The report indicates that studies were done and the results were presented to the NFL and the NFL buried them.

Doesn't matter. The league has enough money to buy off anyone who would try to sue them.

Stone
11-20-2012, 09:44 AM
Doesn't matter. The league has enough money to buy off anyone who would try to sue them.

True.....but the precious shield is getting tarnished and it's only a matter of time until someone, with enough money to give them a run for their money, brings them back down to earth.

I believe there are enough "pure football fans" left that are losing interest in the video game version of football we see now who will be permanently turned off to the NFL when this stuff becomes more public.

coldrolled
11-20-2012, 10:41 AM
Once the schools start removing football from the programs it will be the sign of the end. its a time bomb. The first lawsuits will strat coming in and the schools will drop the game... then the colleges will drop it. the small communities wont pay the extra property tax to cover the huge liability. the game will start to deteriorate... Lawyers and Insurance have destoryed plenty in America already..

Why cant the soldiers sue for getting shot in battle..??? There are plenty of reports of bullets hurting soldiers, but they keep doing it..

Stone
11-20-2012, 02:15 PM
Once the schools start removing football from the programs it will be the sign of the end. its a time bomb. The first lawsuits will strat coming in and the schools will drop the game... then the colleges will drop it. the small communities wont pay the extra property tax to cover the huge liability. the game will start to deteriorate... Lawyers and Insurance have destoryed plenty in America already..

Why cant the soldiers sue for getting shot in battle..??? There are plenty of reports of bullets hurting soldiers, but they keep doing it..

Similar...... but still very different. One is an agreement to defend your country and it's freedom. The other is a game which uses young, uneducated, males on display to make billions. (remembers Mendy's comment about the players being slaves?)

In Vietnam, there were a number of idiot Lieutenants who were shot in the back by their own men because they were certain to lead their troops to death (the good of the many versus the good of the few). In football, an idiot for a head coach loses games.

I agree that Lawyers and Insurance has done a great deal of damage but I think this issue has been brought about by simple greed on the part of the NFL and owners.

coldrolled
11-20-2012, 03:29 PM
One is an agreement to defend your country and it's freedom......

Right... Pop Warner, High School, College and the pros need a signed agreement with players that says ..

I know this game hurts me ... it is my life... let me do what i want. i cant sue anybody. Signed Player..

Or this game is done in decade or two...


Im sure soldiers sign a paper that says they realize they may die..

Stone
11-20-2012, 04:00 PM
One is an agreement to defend your country and it's freedom......

Right... Pop Warner, High School, College and the pros need a signed agreement with players that says ..

I know this game hurts me ... it is my life... let me do what i want. i cant sue anybody. Signed Player..

Or this game is done in decade or two...


Im sure soldiers sign a paper that says they realize they may die..

No we didn't, it's just understood.

As far as football being done?.....I hope not.....It doesn't have to go that way. Football is tough and it's violent but it's the money aspect that has taken it from a molehill of danger and turned it into a mountain range.

DBR96A
11-20-2012, 06:47 PM
Football is a violent sport. But their trying to make Football into underwater basket weaving.

Underwater basket-weaving isn't safe either. You could drown.

ChucktownSteeler
11-20-2012, 07:20 PM
I think most fans that have a clue know that Fuhrer Goodell's player safety is a farce.........

Agreed.

jpele
11-20-2012, 07:38 PM
I think most fans that have a clue know that Fuhrer Goodell's player safety is a farce.........

Not so sure about it being a farce.it's very clear cut, do not hit any defensless receiver or QB above the shoulders unless their names happen to be Roethlisberger or Vick. Now to balance the playing it's ok to go helmet to helmet with running backs and linemen.

Speaking of linemen it's ok to cut block them as long as you do it with center - guard or guard - tackle, that way destroying a mans knees is much safer that going center -tackle , I hope this clarifys the NFL safety policy for you.

Stone
11-20-2012, 11:15 PM
Think about it?

Due to PED's and HGH's we have 280 pound linebackers who have the agility of a 180 pound wide receiver and the strength of a 320 lineman.

We all played football in high school and a few played in college. I remember the "occasional" time when I had my body in the perfect position to lay a debilitating lick on someone.....these guys have that ability every play due to drugs.........and the league turns a blind eye because it makes them money!

Real Deal Steel
11-21-2012, 11:46 AM
There really is nothing you can do as a league unless you discontinue the game. Period. The game is beloved for the violence. Sorry but that's the truth. And there NEVER will be safe enough gear to stop the injuries.

All players who play the game just need to sign a waiver that states they know the health risk involved. Then the league is not liable down the road. It's that simple. The same waiver that city workers sign when they work underneath the streets and subways. It's not that hard to solve.

Stone
11-21-2012, 12:09 PM
There really is nothing you can do as a league unless you discontinue the game. Period. The game is beloved for the violence. Sorry but that's the truth. And there NEVER will be safe enough gear to stop the injuries.

All players who play the game just need to sign a waiver that states they know the health risk involved. Then the league is not liable down the road. It's that simple. The same waiver that city workers sign when they work underneath the streets and subways. It's not that hard to solve.

Don't you think that if these guys lived in a zero tolerance policy for HGH and PED's the injuries would be greatly reduced?

Also, ESPN just discussed the dysfunction of the NFL as represented by the Ed Reed suspension/lifting. The NFL is getting more negative press than they have ever gotten before.