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BlitzburghRockCity
08-10-2012, 01:16 AM
It's only preseason but why not have some fun even in exhibition?
Who's your top players and not so top players from Thursday night?

Rainey and Batch - both were the primary offensive stars tonight. Rainey in the passing game and Batch on the ground.

Adrian Robinson had a pretty nice game too

Wide Receivers - nobody stepped up tonight among the 2nd tier group. Tyler Beiler had one catch but there wasn't much to speak of from any of them.

- From BRC's Droid Bionic of Awesomeness

connecticutsteel
08-10-2012, 04:22 AM
How could they leave out Al Woods int out of the highlights

AL Woods--> STUD
McLendon -->STUD

OFFENSE
Dwyer -->STUD
Redman-->DUD

It's time to Draft a QB AHHUM Foles
Leftwich requires an all Hall of Fame O-line to be effective with his long delivery which is probably longer than Tebow's. Batch is too old and should be counted as a coach . and Johnson didn't look good at all

fogdoctor
08-10-2012, 06:16 AM
We have no backup QB. If Ben goes down then we are going to play without a QB until he gets back.

UKSTEELER
08-10-2012, 07:02 AM
McLendon looks great, yep Woods too showed up . . . Cortez Allen looked good on the back end

Rainey excites me, I thought batch struggled until the scrubs came in, Clay looked pretty good in limited action..

I was surprised we played the Eagles in pre-season, seeing as we have them in the regular season, . . that doesn't normally happen does it?

bigplaysteel
08-10-2012, 07:18 AM
Overall I thought this was a very good first outing. Plenty of concerns were answered for me already although I will not fiinalize my 53 until after the next game.

McClendon was no surprise to me. I have been saying he is a more than adequete replacement for Casey for 3 years. And unfortunately the TC reports on Taamu were accurate. He needs plenty of work.

Sylvester showed he can play the position. He greatly improved from last year when I thought he would at best only be a ST player. Brandon Johnson was close to McClendon in the stud category. Not enough was made of his forcing the bad pass Woods intercepted. I would not be surprised to see him tried out on the other side also. I'm not with the group that sees Carter as improved much and as a replacement for JHar. He probably won't be on my final 53 list. I also thought 51 had a good first outing and was visible and effective. I suppose what I am saying is my concerns with the front 7 were reduced a lot. But without a healthy JHar ehhh?

I posted early on in the TC thread that I was really getting sick and tired of all the talk without ever hardly any video clips to support the observations of the reporters. From what I saw all those negative reports on DeCastro were delivered by nuts. And even though Adams play was far from perfect I saw nothing not easily correctible. Yeah, on the glowing reports about the future of the OL I agree. Go Steelers Go.

Having only seen Rainey on his scout clip which like many others popped my eyes out. I was anxious to actually see him play. Well, he was was on several STUD lists and that was an easy call. But, what was even more impressive to me besides the production was the players poise and toughness. I mean, think about it, first game in a hostile [very hostile] environment and he looked like he had been there for years.

There were quite a few others that played well too, heck, I even thought 23 looked much better and in control of the LDB spot. There was certainly a noticeable difference in the coverage when the replacements took over. But, one more week of practice and another game could change some things.

BTW: I pretty much agreed with all the players mentioned in the earlier posts. Especially Dwyer. This guy reminds me of something I read that Buddy Ryan said about a WR. Ehh! All he does is catch TD passes.[Oh, really] This Dwyer guy all he does is bust through the line and run for long gainers. Ehh! I mean he seems to do this regularly. WTH! I have seen some posts that have him winning the RB job. But, when are they going to let this guy work enough to see if he has any durability or stamina or something. Sometimes I think that maybe Dick Hoak retired way too early.

apxpress33
08-10-2012, 08:40 AM
My biggest DUD I think was Curtis Brown,he looked like a high school player!:cursin:

LatrobePA
08-10-2012, 09:05 AM
DUD, Oline
DUD, back up QB's

Stud, McLendon - BEAST!
Stud, Rainey
Stud, first team D looks very fluid!

UKSTEELER
08-10-2012, 09:13 AM
Yeh as mentioned too before, . . . Adrian Robinson (STUD) reminded me of their ends during his limited action, he had a good skill set, lovely spin move to the inside on one play, . . admittedly against reserves, but you can only beat what is put in front of you . . .

K Train
08-10-2012, 09:37 AM
An Al woods sighting, it was ****ing great. Hes been my dude since like 07 when he was at LSU, i said prior to this season for such an INCREDIBLE athlete, seriously insane athletic measurables he needs to shake the raw label.

Rainey is going to be a super exciting player and just like i thought looks to be that WR/scat back. They are going to get him the ball.

loving me some mcclendon, and not gonna lie i had my doubts. Baron Batch is a nobody, but dwyer looked real good in his short time. Lean and mean

K Train
08-10-2012, 09:43 AM
also, ryan lee...looked pretty ****ing beastly out there. Shout out to coldrolled, thats your boy ha

Zachintosh66
08-10-2012, 10:01 AM
Im not gonna call Al Woods a STUD bc he was givin a gift of an INT...

McClendon looked good
#1 D looked good
Rainey, Batch n Dwyer = Nice
Not gonna jump all over Redmen, one series we all know he gets better as the game goes on.

OL and DB's still look rough, We didnt draft no miracles there... hopefully they can learn from their mistakes and in a few weeks start to get their ducks in a row.

Was hoping to see some OLB depth excel but...

LatrobePA
08-10-2012, 11:36 AM
Honestly for me the stud of the night wasn't even a player, or even anyone on our team!

ANDY REID, poor guy just lost his son 4 days ago and was coaching the game, it was nice to see him smile just knowing what kind of pain he has to be going through right now!

SuperSteelers
08-10-2012, 11:53 AM
ADAMS for sure makes the DUD list. He got burnt numerous times. Gave up a couple of sacks that led to two fumbles that he had to recover to save his own skin.

LatrobePA
08-10-2012, 12:03 PM
ADAMS for sure makes the DUD list. He got burnt numerous times. Gave up a couple of sacks that led to two fumbles that he had to recover to save his own skin.

Gilbert looked like **** too!

Number99
08-10-2012, 12:16 PM
My Duds
- all the Steelers OT's. They couldn't handle the speed off the edge the Eagles were bringing.
- The cover teams.Two blocks in the back by McCoy and just poor coverage overall.
- Baron Batch as a goalline runner. Really? I think its safe to say that experiment didn't work.

My Studs
- Dwyer until he got hurt.
- Rainey. You can just see the potential he has as an offensive weapon.
- Al Woods for being in the right place at the right time, and the hands to hold on to the ball.
- McClendon, for proving at least in this game, that he CAN play well as a NT.

And why all the doom on Redman? Ok so he'll never be a great rb. He doesn't have break away speed. He's a bruiser not a burner. He did his job on 4th and 1 and got the first down with a nice cutback. He caught the one target thrown his way. He did look bad on his 2 outside runs, but so did Rainey when he was bumped outside. And Rainey as we all know is light years faster then Redman. But lets face it, the Eagles front 7's speed and the Pitt o-lines ineptness that was more the factor in the outside runs failing.
The o-line and the offense as a whole have some kinks to iron out before next weeks game.

K Train
08-10-2012, 12:18 PM
they just didnt have any chemistry, everyone clearly wasnt on the same page.

keep in mind the steelers probably havent had much practice against a wide 9 scheme either

Real Deal Steel
08-10-2012, 12:47 PM
Hate to mention this play but I could see us flaring Rainey out and hitting him with that bubble screen as a nice little weapon twice a game. I know people hated seeing Bruce Arian call that play but Rainey out there in space like that is sooo tempting.

Black@Gold Forever32
08-10-2012, 12:51 PM
they just didnt have any chemistry, everyone clearly wasnt on the same page.

keep in mind the steelers probably havent had much practice against a wide 9 scheme either

This.......I agree Train, I didn't expect the Steelers OL to come and just dominate from the jump.....They need time to work together as a unit.....One of the biggest keys to an offensive line is working in sync with each other.....Really I don't expect the Steelers OL to be fully in sync with each other until mid-season......

Big T
08-10-2012, 02:13 PM
Stud = Keisel lol:


@EdBouchette: It's a boy for the Keisels! RT"@bkeisel99: I'm proud to announce that my wife and new son are doing great! Babies sure are a miracle."

LatrobePA
08-10-2012, 02:26 PM
Future badass!! I wonder if the kid was born with a peachfuzz beard??

Real Deal Steel
08-10-2012, 02:50 PM
they just didnt have any chemistry, everyone clearly wasnt on the same page.

keep in mind the steelers probably havent had much practice against a wide 9 scheme either

I hear ya Train.

At least now everyone knows now the areas they need to work on. Because it's all on film. Hahahaha. Tomlin can specifically rack them over the cols about their blunders and mistakes. I bet by the 3rd pre-season game, they'll be light years better then what we saw last night.

BlitzburghRockCity
08-10-2012, 02:51 PM
This.......I agree Train, I didn't expect the Steelers OL to come and just dominate from the jump.....They need time to work together as a unit.....One of the biggest keys to an offensive line is working in sync with each other.....Really I don't expect the Steelers OL to be fully in sync with each other until mid-season......

That's assuming they can all stay healthy and work together every week. As talented as this group is on paper, we can't afford that musical chairs rotation every game and expect to have any type of decent line.


So far Adams' injury doesn't appear to be serious and let's hope it stays that way. He needs all the reps he can get in the preseason because the competition starting in week 1 is going to be seriously upgraded.

86WARD
08-10-2012, 02:55 PM
The other thing about the game is you have to remember that these guys don't game plan or scheme for these games. This is pretty much just a live review of what they worked on in practice so far. So like K said, the Eagles are running a W9, most of these guys aren't prepped against that where in the regular season, they may be more ready for that...via practice and film.

Individually some did better than others, but they definitely need to gel as a unit.

BubbyBlister
08-10-2012, 06:38 PM
Honestly for me the stud of the night wasn't even a player, or even anyone on our team!

ANDY REID, poor guy just lost his son 4 days ago and was coaching the game, it was nice to see him smile just knowing what kind of pain he has to be going through right now! True and my heart goes out to him and his family!

LatrobePA
08-10-2012, 09:50 PM
Sly looked pretty bad too, missed a ton of tackles.

Steelers/PSU Fan
08-11-2012, 02:29 AM
Kyle Jolly #61 OT looked bad, he was beat bad on the last play of the game and I think I remember seeing him get beat on several other plays.

http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/player/scouting/_/id/13596/kyle-jolly

coldrolled
08-11-2012, 03:38 PM
69 Lee was way better than 68 - 61 - 62 - 64

WindyCityShaker
08-13-2012, 03:07 PM
I don't know if we were looking to just list rookies or players we are finally counting on to make their first serious contributions, but I added a couple of players of the obvious nature. Yes I know some were only in for a series, or possibly two, but if players perform as expected I don't think that should disqualify them from the conversation.

Studs
McClendon (Just looks focused and determined)
Rainey (game changer)
Dwyer AND Redman (Redman gets exactly what he's asked to get, and did so this week)
AB and ES (AB is walking around like a number one receiver, just pitch and catch to this guy, and both performed well against much better than average DB's)
1st and 2nd string D (tackling was phenomenal)

Duds
Lefty (i cringe every time he winds up)
Oline as a group (couldn't stop pressure or penetration in most situations, albeit the Eagles are better than average pass rushers, and no the sky isn't falling this is a young talented group that just needs time and experience)

ChucktownSteeler
08-13-2012, 05:34 PM
Sly looked pretty bad too, missed a ton of tackles.

Yes, he did disappoint a bit, didn't he. Was he the one that left his feet in the backfield with the QB in his sights?

Clevelandsux
08-13-2012, 06:28 PM
Where is Dennis Dixon?