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TarlsQtr
07-10-2012, 12:35 PM
Actually a pretty good article (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/19552016/steelers-value-loyalty-stability-which-is-why-its-time-to-extend-tomlin) about how Tomlin has become a "naturalized Pittsburgher" and why he should receive an extension before the season.

CowherPower
07-10-2012, 01:30 PM
I was one of the people that was skeptical of Tomlin when he was first hired. He's not your typical Steelers head coach by the Cowher standards that everyone was used too for so long. He is more like a Chuck Noll though so in that respect I think it took a bit for people to buy into his coaching style because they just weren't used to it; especially the younger fans who weren't around for the Noll era.

He's adapted himself to the city nicely, he'll get his extension in the quiet manner in which the team usually does it.

ChucktownSteeler
07-10-2012, 06:08 PM
Nice article, thanks for posting.

Tomlin's not going anywhere.

LarryNJ
07-11-2012, 10:35 AM
I'm looking forward to him coaching the Steelers for about another 10 years. Nice article thanks. :) Reading the comments this one stuck out.

2001- #1 defense2004 - #1 defense2007 - #1 defense2008 - #1 defense2010 - #1 defense2011 - #1 defense Judging from the defensive ratings, Tomlin is doing better with the personal he inherited than his predicessor did. Cowher had 2 #1 defenses in 15 years. Tomlin had 4 in 5 years.

Is that accurate?

BlitzburghRockCity
07-11-2012, 11:36 AM
Cowher only had the #1 defense in 2001 and 2004. His teams defense was ranked in the top 5 many times during his tenure, but only twice at #1 overall.

Remember too that Cowher had much less to work with with when he took over. The dynasty players of the 70's were all retired by then and the 80's was just a decade to forget with a rag tag group of players. There were only a handful of decent players in that era honestly.

Tomlin was the benefactor of Cowher's hard work in putting together a championship team; much like Barry Switzer was when he took over for Jimmy Johnson. Obviously Tomlin's ability to build his own team is far and above anything that Switzer could hope for but both guys benefited greatly from their predecessors work.

LarryNJ
07-11-2012, 01:33 PM
Thank God he isn't Switzer. :lol:

BlitzburghRockCity
07-11-2012, 05:40 PM
:lol: I know right, Barry couldn't coach to save his life in the NFL. That team he received as a gift pretty much ran itself.

Nolrog
07-11-2012, 06:18 PM
Is that accurate?

I'm not sure if it's accurate, but in fairness, much of that defense in terms of system, coaches and players were left over from Cowher. So you can't really attribute the entire success of the Defense to Tomlin.

BubbyBlister
07-14-2012, 08:38 PM
Cowher only had the #1 defense in 2001 and 2004. His teams defense was ranked in the top 5 many times during his tenure, but only twice at #1 overall.

Remember too that Cowher had much less to work with with when he took over. The dynasty players of the 70's were all retired by then and the 80's was just a decade to forget with a rag tag group of players. There were only a handful of decent players in that era honestly.

Tomlin was the benefactor of Cowher's hard work in putting together a championship team; much like Barry Switzer was when he took over for Jimmy Johnson. Obviously Tomlin's ability to build his own team is far and above anything that Switzer could hope for but both guys benefited greatly from their predecessors work. Actually Noll was building a decent team before he retired. He left Cowher on Defense with Rod Woodson, Greg Liyod, Carnell Lake, and a few other serviceable players. Offense he left him Neil O'donnell, Bary Foster, Eric Green , Dermontti Dawson and a pretty decent OL. I kinda felt bad for Noll suffering through the dark 80's years and then retire when he was finally building a good team. As for the 80's sure losing the 70's legend players was big but so was the awful drafts they had.

gtadroptop
07-15-2012, 08:22 AM
We'll see what happens to the "D" ratings when LeBeau retires. Retaining him was one of the smarter things Tomlin did his rookie year.

strummerfan
07-15-2012, 09:03 AM
I have this troublesome feeling that Tomlin's days are numbered.

steelcitysfinestXL
07-15-2012, 12:41 PM
I have this troublesome feeling that Tomlin's days are numbered.

Do you care to elaborate!?!? We're talking about a coach who is already mentioned in the same circles as the best coaches in the league. While he has had stability on the defensive side of the ball, he has built the offense and offensive coaching staff well and pulled the ST's out of the gutter Cowher left it in! I think Tomlin's contract is entirely up to him and what he wants for his family. When he reaches a decision on how long he wants to be under contract the price shouldnt be a big battle. He has earned the right to be a top 5 paid head coach!

BubbyBlister
07-16-2012, 02:21 AM
Do you care to elaborate!?!? We're talking about a coach who is already mentioned in the same circles as the best coaches in the league. While he has had stability on the defensive side of the ball, he has built the offense and offensive coaching staff well and pulled the ST's out of the gutter Cowher left it in! I think Tomlin's contract is entirely up to him and what he wants for his family. When he reaches a decision on how long he wants to be under contract the price shouldnt be a big battle. He has earned the right to be a top 5 paid head coach! I think he mixed the Penguins up with the Steelers.

LarryNJ
07-16-2012, 10:38 AM
Actually Noll was building a decent team before he retired. He left Cowher on Defense with Rod Woodson, Greg Liyod, Carnell Lake, and a few other serviceable players. Offense he left him Neil O'donnell, Bary Foster, Eric Green , Dermontti Dawson and a pretty decent OL. I kinda felt bad for Noll suffering through the dark 80's years and then retire when he was finally building a good team. As for the 80's sure losing the 70's legend players was big but so was the awful drafts they had.

That's a very good point that is seldom brought up. Cowher did inherit a very nice foundation of a team. As great as Noll was I believe his biggest mistake was thinking that small lineman were the way to go. It worked in the 70's but the league changed in the 80's and it took him a while to figure it out.

While yes Tomlin was smart keeping Lebeau, Cowher was also very smart in keeping Dick Hoak. We have been blessed with 3 very good coaches who's success has a lot to do with the great front office they have worked with. Tomlin has done a very good job and I agree it's his until he decides to move on.

steelcitysfinestXL
07-16-2012, 07:54 PM
I think he mixed the Penguins up with the Steelers.

LOL, i dont think "Disco" Dan is in any trouble either. Though out of Hurdle, Tomlin and Balsma he may be the one on the shortest leash!