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BlitzburghRockCity
06-27-2012, 10:24 AM
I get that this perspective is from a fantasy football owners point of view but still, you need to do your homework before you start assuming things about a player.

This writer clearly has no clue about what happened last year with Timmons playing outside so much when Harrison and Woodley were down. He's obviously not done his homework on Worilds either who was hurt last year as well and under performed until later in the year.

I just find it comical at times that writers will talk about a player or team, even from a fantasy standpoint, and not have all the facts. Maybe I'm just have a cynical type of day too..LOL

Nothing is worse in Dynasty leagues than having a player who was a bona fide stud one year fall on his face the next. You get your hopes up and consider him a core player, a sure fire every week starter, then without warning or explanation he hits a slump so nasty that you want to drive to their city and beat them with a dead car battery. Having said that…

In 2010, Timmons finished the year ranked as the LB7 in IDP leagues. He was machine of destruction. Through the first seven games he had racked up 56 solo tackles, 18 assists and three sacks. Nobody started off hotter! Then, something happened. Through the next six games he totaled just 20 solos, 17 assists, and zero sacks. He wasn’t hurt, there was no position change, and it wasn’t bad match-ups. It was like there was an imposter in his uniform. Timmons finished the year strong with 20 solos, seven assists, and a sack the final three weeks so everything was forgiven.

Fast forward to 2011 where all the “experts” had Timmons locked in as an elite tier, can’t miss, top five linebacker. There was very little reason to believe Timmons wasn’t going to build on his 2010 numbers. He was “The Man” in Pittsburgh – the next great Steelers linebacker following in the footsteps of all-time greats. Week one rolls around and he blows the stat sheet up against the Ravens with ten solos and two assists. Everything seemed on track as the LB1 we drafted was panning out. The next week, five solos and three assists – an average game, nothing to worry about. Week three versus the Colts was a snooze fest. It was three and out after three and out, so the stat sheet was not kind to the IDP players. One solo, two assists was all Timmons could tally. Just a bad match up, nothing to worry about, right?

From weeks five through eight, things got real interesting for Timmons’ owners. James Harrison, Pro Bowl outside linebacker, went down with an injury and Timmons was shifted into his spot. During those four games he TOTALED seven solos and five assists, including a week six goose egg. Everyone held their heads up though, Harrison was coming back in week nine and the Steelers were gonna get their uber-stud back on track. Unfortunately, that was not the case. Timmons slid back to his inside linebacker spot and continued his disappearing act. Only one more time in the 2011 season did he break double digit total tackles, which was in week 16.


Full article available here (http://network.yardbarker.com/nfl/article_external/will_the_real_lawrence_timmons_please_stand_up/11063888), writer goes into how the stats for Timmons were so different from 2010 - 2011... :bonk:

SnakeEyes43
06-27-2012, 11:39 AM
:blah: :whatever:

This writer doesn't know how our defense works. Timmons didn't excel at OLB when he was forced to shift over due to Harrison's injury, but he filled in nicely and did his job. He didn't have huge numbers, but overall had a decent year.

I know we say this every year, but I have a feeling Ziggy, Heyward and Timmons will beast it this year.

K Train
06-27-2012, 11:45 AM
idiotic article lol

The Lakelander
06-27-2012, 02:46 PM
I have no problem with the article, as it was written purely from a fantasy football persepctive ...

steelchamp204
06-27-2012, 03:51 PM
Ill still nev er forget last season he said he was going to have 10 sacks are little more, correct me if Im wrong and I was so pumped, then was let down by seasons end. I think he will bounce back after being humbled a little bit.

ChucktownSteeler
06-27-2012, 11:17 PM
Timmons is a stud, second only to Patrick Willis, IMHO.

C-town

scudmissile29
06-28-2012, 07:30 AM
Timmons is a stud, second only to Patrick Willis, IMHO.

C-town

ROFL, come on man.

Timmons didn't have a great year, and now he's running his mouth saying he's going to get 14 sacks.

Another down year if we put that as the benchmark.

Hopefully Spence can demote Timmons and put him in his place.

ChucktownSteeler
06-28-2012, 10:22 AM
ROFL, come on man.

Timmons didn't have a great year, and now he's running his mouth saying he's going to get 14 sacks.

Another down year if we put that as the benchmark.

Hopefully Spence can demote Timmons and put him in his place.

No way, Timmons is a beast.

K Train
06-28-2012, 10:44 AM
ROFL, come on man.

Timmons didn't have a great year, and now he's running his mouth saying he's going to get 14 sacks.

Another down year if we put that as the benchmark.

Hopefully Spence can demote Timmons and put him in his place.
spence demote timmons in what world? thats so dumb to say its never going to happen..spences only shot to play is to play next to timmons and probably not this year at all. you have strange thoughts on linebackers

connecticutsteel
06-28-2012, 03:16 PM
Silly fantasy football bullshit

scudmissile29
06-28-2012, 03:19 PM
spence demote timmons in what world? thats so dumb to say its never going to happen..spences only shot to play is to play next to timmons and probably not this year at all. you have strange thoughts on linebackers

I never said it would happen this year.

so read my posts again, spence will be a better linebacker than lawrence timmons.

14 sacks for Timmo...

















counting on it :yesnod:

Big T
06-28-2012, 04:37 PM
ROFL, come on man.

Timmons didn't have a great year, and now he's running his mouth saying he's going to get 14 sacks.

Another down year if we put that as the benchmark.

Hopefully Spence can demote Timmons and put him in his place.

Running his mouth saying he's going to get 14 sacks? Dude said he's aiming for 12-14. What's wrong with that? What's wrong with having a goal? How is that "running his mouth saying he's going to have 14 sacks?" Anyway, 14 sacks for a MLB in a 3-4 is unbelievable. Even Patrick Willis only has a career high of 6 in one season. On that note, Timmons has a 7 sack season under his belt. And don't try to twist ****, I'm not saying Timmons is Willis... But he does have the potential to be up there. Bashing Timmons for being optimistic and having a goal is idiotic.

scudmissile29
06-28-2012, 07:21 PM
He shouldn't be setting goals after such a disappointing season.

I've lost faith in him, we will see what happens.

ChucktownSteeler
06-28-2012, 07:31 PM
He shouldn't be setting goals after such a disappointing season.

I've lost faith in him, we will see what happens.

Dude, check the LB injury situation last year. How many combos did Timmons play with? How many positions did he play? You can't be serious, maybe you are trying to stir the board up a bit.

Njsteelersnut
06-28-2012, 07:37 PM
Dude, check the LB injury situation last year. How many combos did Timmons play with? How many positions did he play? You can't be serious, maybe you are trying to stir the board up a bit.

Chuck maybe he is trying to Supe the board up a bit.LOL

SnakeEyes43
06-28-2012, 08:48 PM
so read my posts again, spence will be a better linebacker than lawrence timmons

Will.Not.Happen.EVER.

I expect Spence to contribute on ST, and get some playing time here and there as well, but IMO he'll never be a better professional starting MLB than Timmons.

I wouldn't argue that he'll even start next to Timmons in the next few years, but he will not be better than Timmons.

86WARD
06-28-2012, 11:35 PM
Hopefully Spence can demote Timmons and put him in his place.

:scratch:

scudmissile29
06-29-2012, 05:12 AM
Will.Not.Happen.EVER.

I expect Spence to contribute on ST, and get some playing time here and there as well, but IMO he'll never be a better professional starting MLB than Timmons.

I wouldn't argue that he'll even start next to Timmons in the next few years, but he will not be better than Timmons.

with the way he played last year it's very likely.

and don't make the excuse that he was out of position, other injured players blah blah.

top positional players play great with or without a supporting cast.

This is what's wrong with Pittsburgh sport fans and their "6" trophies, you think every year super bowl, every year should of been super bowl, think every player is best or at least amazing that starts with the exception of william gay and rashard mendenhall.#

-------- you guys do know spence average far more tackles than Timmons in college and almost just as many sacks... spence easily had the better college career, so why can't he become a better pro (which he will) or have the presumption to be.

cmerrifield
06-29-2012, 09:21 AM
with the way he played last year it's very likely.

and don't make the excuse that he was out of position, other injured players blah blah.

top positional players play great with or without a supporting cast.

This is what's wrong with Pittsburgh sport fans and their "6" trophies, you think every year super bowl, every year should of been super bowl, think every player is best or at least amazing that starts with the exception of william gay and rashard mendenhall.#

-------- you guys do know spence average far more tackles than Timmons in college and almost just as many sacks... spence easily had the better college career, so why can't he become a better pro (which he will) or have the presumption to be.

We are not doubting Spence, we just think you are undervaluing Timmons. He is a ILB now and had to play 3 of the 4 LB positions last year. Would you say Big Ben is done if he had to play WR because of injuries in 4 games and did not throw for 4,000 yards? Basically, its the same thing, just the opposite side of the ball.

SnakeEyes43
06-29-2012, 09:41 AM
and don't make the excuse that he was out of position, other injured players blah blah.

Ummm, well it's kinda something you should consider when looking at a players stats...



This is what's wrong with Pittsburgh sport fans and their "6" trophies, you think every year super bowl, every year should of been super bowl, think every player is best or at least amazing that starts with the exception of william gay and rashard mendenhall.#


Ironic that you were the first to bring up the Super Bowls then, no? And we don't think every player is amazing, but you are just seriously under-evaluating Lawrence Timmons. It's not a conspiracy against you...just no one agrees with you on this topic.

K Train
06-29-2012, 11:38 AM
with the way he played last year it's very likely.

and don't make the excuse that he was out of position, other injured players blah blah.

top positional players play great with or without a supporting cast.

This is what's wrong with Pittsburgh sport fans and their "6" trophies, you think every year super bowl, every year should of been super bowl, think every player is best or at least amazing that starts with the exception of william gay and rashard mendenhall.#

-------- you guys do know spence average far more tackles than Timmons in college and almost just as many sacks... spence easily had the better college career, so why can't he become a better pro (which he will) or have the presumption to be.
comparing their college careers is insane. Timmy Chang had more passing yards than peyton manning, garrett wolfe had more rushing yards than adrian peterson, montee ball has more TDs than barry sanders, what the **** are you trying to prove? timmons played DE in college, was drafted as a 34 OLB, and got moved to a 34 MLB even though his best fit was a WILL in a 43.

spence's best spot is also a WILL in a 43, and thats exactly what he played in college, and he was drafted as a nickel linebacker and special teamer

BlitzburghRockCity
06-30-2012, 10:42 AM
Swag is known for starting controversy, I knew this post would get you all torqued up..LOL. Dude, there's no way on this planet that Spence even sees the field this year on defense unless Sylvester gets hurt or plays so poorly that they have to put in the rookie at some point to help out Foote because Timmons went down.

Spence will be a force, but not this year. Timmons won't get 12-14 sacks playing in the middle but I'm ok with that, he's a stud on the inside as long as he can stay there and not have to swing outside.