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BlitzburghRockCity
06-21-2012, 09:49 AM
Entrenched in his role as U.S. Ambassador to Ireland but with his mind never far from Pittsburgh, Dan Rooney expressed interest this week in bringing an NFL regular-season game — and the Steelers — to the Emerald Isle.

In an interview with BBC Northern Ireland Sports, the influential Steelers chairman emeritus said he has discussed the prospect with NFL commissioner Roger Goodell.
“Sometime soon it would be good, and I think the commissioner would be interested in working something out,” Rooney said. “I’d like to see the Steelers involved, and if it could be worked out by the league, we would enjoy doing it.”

With the NFL filling London’s soccer haven, Wembley Stadium, for one regular-season game each year since 2007 — part of the league’s International Series — Rooney said he could envision the same happening at Dublin’s Croke Park, an 82,500-seat venue that an NFL delegation visited last year.

“(The International Series) has proven very, very successful. In fact, that game sells out almost as soon as they put the tickets up,” he said. “The interest (in Dublin) in sports is, as it is in London, quite strong.”

The Steelers already have played a game in Croke Park, defeating Chicago in a 1997 preseason game. That was when the league often played exhibition games overseas as part of the American Bowl series.

Mark Waller, the NFL’s chief marketing officer, acknowledged the challenges of traveling long distance.
“When we bring a team over, we are bringing over at least 150 personnel. That’s for each team,” Waller told the BBC. “That’s a massive infrastructural move, and — I want to stress this — with these overseas games, it also is in the middle of our season. So the logistics and planning side are key to the decision.”

From the Pittsburgh Trib (http://triblive.com/sports/steelers/2066025-85/game-nfl-steelers-rooney-ireland-league-season-series-dan-bbc?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+tribunereviewsteelers+%28Stee lers+Stories%29)

LatrobePA
06-21-2012, 10:20 AM
I'm not a big fan of this... "America's Game"

K Train
06-21-2012, 10:45 AM
i think its a pretty cool idea, then again im not a season ticket holder

SteelDad
06-21-2012, 10:47 AM
I'll be posting my position on this to the homepage this afternoon.

TarlsQtr
06-21-2012, 02:19 PM
I think it is fine. Rooney is a businessman. As a former (by then) Ambassador to Ireland, he will draw even more interest in the game and the Steelers. If the game (and the Steelers) take hold in Ireland, it means more Steelers shirts, hats, etc. sold and he profits.

That said, it should not be an annual event.

steelersbabex25
06-21-2012, 02:24 PM
...no

jpele
06-21-2012, 03:46 PM
When the owners of teams playing overseas pay airfare and rooming expenses for their season ticket holders, then I'll think it's a good idea.

How many empty stadiums do they need to see before they realize Europians don't care about American football?

TarlsQtr
06-21-2012, 04:15 PM
When the owners of teams playing overseas pay airfare and rooming expenses for their season ticket holders, then I'll think it's a good idea.

How many empty stadiums do they need to see before they realize Europians don't care about American football?

Are they going to make you purchase a ticket for a game in London or, in this case, Dublin? I doubt it. If they do, you have a legitimate gripe. If not, then you do not. It is not like we have a "right" to see every game in person.

As far as attendance, I believe Wembley has seated at most about 88,000 people. NFL International attendance:

2005: 103,467 Mexico
2007: 81,176
2008: 83,226
2009: 84,254
2010: 83,941
2011: 76,981

It is kind of hard to complain about that attendance. We should not confuse NFL Europe attendance with the actual NFL. Apparently, Europeans dislike bad American football as much as we do.

BlitzburghRockCity
06-21-2012, 06:07 PM
From a business standpoint its a good idea to further the games. More merchandise and what not. From a fan perspective it stinks! Taking it away from the home crowd is never, ever good. I personally hate it. Only 16 games a year as it is.

- From BRC's Droid Bionic of Coolness

jpele
06-21-2012, 07:07 PM
Are they going to make you purchase a ticket for a game in London or, in this case, Dublin? I doubt it. If they do, you have a legitimate gripe. If not, then you do not. It is not like we have a "right" to see every game in person.

As far as attendance, I believe Wembley has seated at most about 88,000 people. NFL International attendance:

2005: 103,467 Mexico
2007: 81,176




2008: 83,226
2009: 84,254
2010: 83,941
2011: 76,981

It is kind of hard to complain about that attendance. We should not confuse NFL Europe attendance with the actual NFL. Apparently, Europeans dislike bad American football as much as we do.

If I have a season ticket and have to miss a game i have a legitimate complaint.

HUNT4SEVEN
06-21-2012, 08:05 PM
...no

:banana: yep...what she said!Keep the games here...

TarlsQtr
06-21-2012, 10:00 PM
If I have a season ticket and have to miss a game i have a legitimate complaint.

Only if they make you pay for it. There is no constitutional right to 8 home games per year. Nor is there a moral right, nor do the Rooneys "owe" it to the fans.

What is best for the team is ultimately best for us fans. I respect the Rooney's business acumen enough to trust their judgment on whether it is a good business decision.

jpele
06-21-2012, 11:46 PM
Only if they make you pay for it. There is no constitutional right to 8 home games per year. Nor is there a moral right, nor do the Rooneys "owe" it to the fans.

Obviously you don't understand the concept of the season ticket.

JensK
06-22-2012, 06:23 AM
Obviously you don't understand the concept of the season ticket.

They could EASILY reimburse whta amounted to the cost of 1 game to the season ticket holders, and I'm sure they would.

I personally don't see the problem here. You could easily gather 100.000 Steelers fans in Europe who would be more than willing to travel to London or Dublin to watch them play. It would not be any different than having the Steelers play at home other than a few possessive guys who have the interpretation that football is a game which solely belongs in The USA; a statement which quite honestly belongs to the NFL ano 1980. The world has changed since then. It is not like the Europeans throw a fit every time Manchester United or Barcelona play a match over there... Both of those teams have season-ticket holders, they have as many fans as the Steelers and tickets are roughly the same. Sure, they play a more games per year which I acknowledge, however the premise is the same nonetheless.

BlitzburghRockCity
06-22-2012, 09:17 AM
I don't think any of us, at least I don't, have a problem with expanding the love of the game. I'm all for the more fans enjoying the greatest sport on earth, the better. I just don't like having one less home game to go too when there's only 8 already. If it were a preseason game, by all means knock yourself out.

JensK knows better than probably anyone on here about the SteelerNation across the pond, and the NFL fans in general. I can't imagine there would be an empty seat in any stadium.

Rooney doesn't owe the fans anything technically, it's his team he can do what he wants. I'd personally rather see the regular season games stay here but it's not like we can do anything about it..lol

TarlsQtr
06-22-2012, 09:48 AM
Obviously you don't understand the concept of the season ticket.

I do not have much to add as JensK nailed it. Divide the season ticket total by 8 and subtract that number from the total. I suspect the Rooney clan can figure that out.

Face it. It is not the money that bothers you because it is pretty obvious that the Steelers are not going to charge people for a game they have no chance of attending. If they did, I and a million other fans would be walking arm and arm with you to protest at the Steelers offices.

What bothers you (and millions of other Americans) is a misguided belief that a sports team is "ours" and that ownership "owes" us something more than an attempt at a good product on the field for our loyalty. It is hogwash. Just as Ford does not owe it to you to put a factory in SW PA because you are a loyal Ford driver, the Steelers do not owe you 8 home games for being a season ticket holder as long as you are not required to pay for it.

I love the Steelers as much as anyone here. However, I have also come to the adult realization that the NFL is a business and the Rooneys will (and should) do what is best for their business.

TarlsQtr
06-22-2012, 10:02 AM
I don't think any of us, at least I don't, have a problem with expanding the love of the game. I'm all for the more fans enjoying the greatest sport on earth, the better. I just don't like having one less home game to go too when there's only 8 already. If it were a preseason game, by all means knock yourself out.

JensK knows better than probably anyone on here about the SteelerNation across the pond, and the NFL fans in general. I can't imagine there would be an empty seat in any stadium.

Rooney doesn't owe the fans anything technically, it's his team he can do what he wants. I'd personally rather see the regular season games stay here but it's not like we can do anything about it..lol

BRC,

Thanks for your honest assessment. If I lived close enough to SW PA to have season tickets, I would be disappointed too that I was losing an opportunity to see a game. It's a bummer. I get that and appreciate that perspective far more than the silly, "I am getting screwed out of money" argument. Some here are painting this as a type of injustice to the fans. It is not. If we truly love the team, we will swallow hard and let the Rooneys do what is best for it. A chance to sell the Steelers (and NFL) to an entire nation is good for the Steelers and ultimately us. We only have to look next door to those swinging sticks all summer to see the result of 20+ years of a stagnant fan base and ownership.

PS I can almost guarantee that the Rooneys are not going to give up a particularly important game (playing the Ravens, Pats, etc.). Losing a home game against the Rams, for example, should not be too large of an inconvenience, IMO.

BlitzburghRockCity
06-24-2012, 12:18 AM
Season tickets are never going to drop in price. They regularly raise those prices just like they raise the single game tickets each year. The only way we've ever see a decrease in prices would be if the fans united and just said, hey we aren't going to pay this and just not show up.

The Bengals fans have gone through that, hell they were giving tickets away as recently as last year. The Browns are terrible every year and their fans are sick of it too. For teams like the Steelers who always do well, there's no hope for cheaper prices no matter how many games they give away to foreign soil.

connecticutsteel
06-24-2012, 01:57 AM
I don't mind it because it will be on tv and i'm smack dab in pats/jets/giants land but i don't think i should count as a Steelers home game it should be against a sub par attendance team like jax

BlitzburghRockCity
07-12-2012, 02:33 PM
Starkey reports in his column today that the Steelers have assured the fans that they will not give up a home game to play in Ireland...

It made for a good radio topic, anyway: Would you be OK with your beloved Steelers relinquishing a regular-season home game in order to play one in Ireland?

The collective response was the most resounding “No!” heard in these parts since HBO asked Bill Cowher if he’d like his team featured on “Hard Knocks.”

As it turns out, you needn’t worry. Here is the email I received from Steelers headquarters: “We will not give up a home game to play in Ireland.”

That’s fairly clear.

Full article at the Trib (http://triblive.com/sports/2101502-74/game-steelers-ireland-nfl-football-team-american-dublin-london-real)

BlacknGoldHaze
07-13-2012, 12:21 AM
I'm Irish and I HATE this idea!!

jpele
07-13-2012, 11:17 AM
I do not have much to add as JensK nailed it. Divide the season ticket total by 8 and subtract that number from the total. I suspect the Rooney clan can figure that out.

Face it. It is not the money that bothers you because it is pretty obvious that the Steelers are not going to charge people for a game they have no chance of attending. If they did, I and a million other fans would be walking arm and arm with you to protest at the Steelers offices.



Actually money is a big part of the reason. When you purchase season tickets you also pay Seat Licenses which can cost up to $30,000 some are much lower then add the cost of the ticket ( which are for 8 regular season games and pre season)

There are 88000 people on the waiting list for season tickets with a 50 year expected wait, so yes I want all 8 reg season games. Oh and the price of the game tickets ,let"s say for two can range between $950.00 to $3350.00 depending on location.

BlacknGoldHaze
07-14-2012, 12:01 AM
I've never been a fan of taking the game overseas....it's an American game....period! Let the Europeans have their futbol...

Njsteelersnut
07-14-2012, 09:20 AM
Playing games overseas is nonsense, just another one of Dictator Goodells assinine brainstorms. He has even suggested a Super Bowl played overseas........keep the game here where it belongs.....if I was a season ticket holder and was gonna lose one home game a year I would be outraged.