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BlitzburghRockCity
05-30-2012, 12:32 AM
Steelers receiver Mike Wallace hasn’t spoken publicly about his contract situation in the past four months.

The same can’t be said about cornerback Ike Taylor after spending the Memorial Day weekend in Las Vegas with his teammate.

Taylor said during his weekly show on TribLive Radio on Tuesday that Wallace is frustrated with contract negotiations and he wants to be at offseason practices but also wants what he believes he is due.

“There is a lot of frustration with Mike right now,” Taylor said. “He wants to be here. ... But at the same time he wants his paper.

“Mike feels like he outperformed his last contract. But he’s dealing with a monster, and that’s the Pittsburgh Steelers … they are not going to let you dictate to them on how you feel.”

Wallace has yet to sign his first-round restricted free agent tender that would guarantee him a $2.16 million raise for this season, bringing his salary to $2.742 million. He missed the fourth consecutive voluntary practice yesterday and isn’t expected to attend offseason workouts, including mandatory minicamp next month.

Wallace could not be reached for comment.

Taylor said he told Wallace he would like to see him show up at the practice facility mostly because new offensive coordinator Todd Haley’s system is being installed.

Wallace is seeking a long-term extension. He reportedly was looking for Larry Fitzgerald-type money — $120 million over eight years. He has until June 15 to sign his tender before the Steelers could reduce their offer to 110 percent of his $580,000 salary last year. Wallace also could hold out until Nov. 12 and still be credited with an accrued season, making him an unrestricted free agent next year.

“Mike is going to be a Pittsburgh Steeler for years to come,” Taylor said. “(But I told him), at the end of the day: Football doesn’t need you; you need football.”

From the Pittsburgh Tribune Review

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SteelDad
05-30-2012, 08:41 AM
This is from Mark Kaboly at the Trib. He is using quotes from Ike Taylor who did his radio show yesterday.

http://triblive.com/sports/steelers/1879654-85/wallace-taylor-mike-wants-contract-million-steelers-agent-football-free

By Mark Kaboly (mkaboly@dailynewsemail.com)
Tribune-Review

Steelers receiver Mike Wallace hasn’t spoken publicly about his contract situation in the past four months.
The same can’t be said about cornerback Ike Taylor after spending the Memorial Day weekend in Las Vegas with his teammate.
Taylor said during his weekly show on TribLive Radio on Tuesday that Wallace is frustrated with contract negotiations and he wants to be at offseason practices but also wants what he believes he is due.
“There is a lot of frustration with Mike right now,” Taylor said. “He wants to be here. ... But at the same time he wants his paper.
“Mike feels like he outperformed his last contract. But he’s dealing with a monster, and that’s the Pittsburgh Steelers … they are not going to let you dictate to them on how you feel.”
Wallace has yet to sign his first-round restricted free agent tender that would guarantee him a $2.16 million raise for this season, bringing his salary to $2.742 million. He missed the fourth consecutive voluntary practice yesterday and isn’t expected to attend offseason workouts, including mandatory minicamp next month.
Wallace could not be reached for comment.
Taylor said he told Wallace he would like to see him show up at the practice facility mostly because new offensive coordinator Todd Haley’s system is being installed.
Wallace is seeking a long-term extension. He reportedly was looking for Larry Fitzgerald-type money — $120 million over eight years. He has until June 15 to sign his tender before the Steelers could reduce their offer to 110 percent of his $580,000 salary last year. Wallace also could hold out until Nov. 12 and still be credited with an accrued season, making him an unrestricted free agent next year.
“Mike is going to be a Pittsburgh Steeler for years to come,” Taylor said. “(But I told him), at the end of the day: Football doesn’t need you; you need football.”

Published: Tuesday, May 29, 2012, 7:22 p.m.

CowherPower
05-30-2012, 09:22 AM
I'm so tired of hearing about Mike Wallace I could just vomit! "Oh I want to be in camp but I have to get my money" BS!! Just get to camp and learn the offense, you'll get your payday when the time comes already!

K Train
05-30-2012, 09:27 AM
I'm so tired of hearing about Mike Wallace I could just vomit! "Oh I want to be in camp but I have to get my money" BS!! Just get to camp and learn the offense, you'll get your payday when the time comes already!
i just dont get where we get off thinking this is how it works, its how we would like it to work but thats just not the way business is done.

kudos to woodley for handling his contract the way he did, but hes an exception definitely not the rule

LatrobePA
05-30-2012, 09:45 AM
So Ike is now his agent?

BlitzburghRockCity
05-30-2012, 10:47 AM
I think when you play for the Steelers, you have to know how it works. They just don't give out new deals before the draft or just after it, very often. They prefer to wait until training camp to get that stuff done.


How he doesn't realize that or why he can't wait is beyond me.

connecticutsteel
05-30-2012, 10:56 AM
Anyone with Wallace's skills would do the same thing and if they say other wise there are A STUPID OR B NOT AGOOD BUSINESS PERSON

Real Deal Steel
05-30-2012, 11:47 AM
Those tactics don't work with organazations like the Steelers. And Wallace has been here long enough to know that.

BlitzburghRockCity
05-30-2012, 01:15 PM
It's not the fact that he doesn't deserve a new deal, of course he does. His long term upside is through the roof. I'm just completely sick of hearing about it. Besides, multiple teammates have told him to get his butt to camp and let the money take care of itself but he still refuses to show up. Missing a few OTA's is not the end of the world but you'd like to see him in there working out with the guys getting the gameplan down.

jpele
05-30-2012, 01:17 PM
So Ike is now his agent?

If not he should be. Ike is 100% correct that football doesn't Mike Wallace and Wallace would be wise to heed that advise.

JollyRob68
05-30-2012, 02:32 PM
i just dont get where we get off thinking this is how it works, its how we would like it to work but thats just not the way business is done.

kudos to woodley for handling his contract the way he did, but hes an exception definitely not the rule

Totally Agreed Woodley is a True Pro and Leader.
As for Wallace. Sign your tender it's more than what you've played for the last 3 years. What Frustration? It's simple sign tender then they negotiate. You don't have to goto OTA's but you have a new OC and he has no loyalty to you what so ever. SIgn and get practicing at least for one week then train on your own.

JollyRob68
05-30-2012, 02:37 PM
Anyone with Wallace's skills would do the same thing and if they say other wise there are A STUPID OR B NOT AGOOD BUSINESS PERSON

Smart Business would be to sign your 2.7 mil tender because its more than you've made and then let your Agent work on a long term deal. Sign the tender go for a week to OTA's then go finish your off season workouts. If he's always worked out on his own then continue to do that. If he always worked out in the Burgh then continue to do that.
The smart Business Person knows The Steelers don't negotiate if your not there. Solution Sign tender & get there.

NorCalSteel
05-30-2012, 04:21 PM
there is no law out there that says he cant sing his deal and work out a new one also. Sign the deal show up take your 2.7 deal show them why they need to pay you more(he shouldn't have to). I think he is only hurting himself at this point.

Real Deal Steel
05-30-2012, 04:59 PM
I want Wallace to stay out the whole season. Gives more reps to the other guys.

Go ahead Mike...continue to punish us by not bestowing your pressence upon us. :rolleyes:

Black@Gold Forever32
05-30-2012, 05:29 PM
Wow some of you crack me.......The great Hines Ward even held out of training camp back in 2005 when he was fed up with his contract.....But Mike Wallace is the Antichrist for missing OTA's......lol Its freaking OTA's....Who cares?........I know I know Mike Wallace has to learn Haley's offense.....

NorCalSteel
05-30-2012, 07:08 PM
I didnt like it when Hines Ward held out either...so no different for me..I work under a contract at work..if I have a great year and decide to hold out for more money what do you think would happen to me??..lol.

Black@Gold Forever32
05-30-2012, 07:41 PM
I didnt like it when Hines Ward held out either...so no different for me..I work under a contract at work..if I have a great year and decide to hold out for more money what do you think would happen to me??..lol.

See that is the problem.....You can't compare yourself to a pro athlete.....Pro Sports is big business.......NFL teams cut players all the time when they feel a player is longer worth the money they're making....I can't fault Mike Wallace for wanting to make as much money as possible while he can.....

cbrunn
05-30-2012, 08:49 PM
See that is the problem.....You can't compare yourself to a pro athlete.....Pro Sports is big business.......NFL teams cut players all the time when they feel a player is longer worth the money they're making....I can't fault Mike Wallace for wanting to make as much money as possible while he can.....


DING DING DING ... you are the winner ...

PPL try to compare their lives with NFL lives ... and then say well teams can't ask for money back if they don't perform, no they can't but they can cut a player when ever they feel like it ... and it does happen

Goodfrom55
05-30-2012, 11:00 PM
I'm a lunch pail guy and I don't like when ANYONE holds out. If you signed the contract, honor it. You'll get your just due. See Woodley.

Yes, teams cut players when they think they aren't worth the $$$, but how many of them are overpaid to begin with? He should sign his tender, and get to the south side. . .maybe the extend him. He will never get Fitzgerald money. He wil lbe lucky to get 5 for 50.

cbrunn
05-30-2012, 11:28 PM
I'm a lunch pail guy and I don't like when ANYONE holds out. If you signed the contract, honor it. You'll get your just due. See Woodley.

Yes, teams cut players when they think they aren't worth the $$$, but how many of them are overpaid to begin with? He should sign his tender, and get to the south side. . .maybe the extend him. He will never get Fitzgerald money. He wil lbe lucky to get 5 for 50.

none of them to be quit honest ... if the players don't get it the owners are getting it ...

now do we over pay for EVERYTHING ... regular ppl will probably never be able to go to a good game and have a close seat...

but i'd rather have the players get it then the owners ...

coldrolled
05-31-2012, 08:47 AM
but i'd rather have the players get it then the owners ...

Thats cool.. the players just got 57% of the profits in the CBA.. i think that was the number... close though..

So in Minnesota.. the owners need over 1 billion to finish the stadium after the city chips in some...

Should the players getting 57% of profits chip in 57% of the cost? No i dont think so.

The owners have the money, they are rich. they finance our football fun... dont make the owners out as the bad guys.

Our country now has this tendency to make the owners bad guys... owners pay jobs, salaries, commisions and send in double FICA payments per employee to pay for Medicare and Medicaid for all the social programs.... Our country needs about 25% more small business owners nation wide to hire people and pay all our countries social costs..

on my own since 1983... I battle this stuff daily... Then have to pay my own healthcare. And buy football tickets...

cbrunn
05-31-2012, 10:27 AM
Thats cool.. the players just got 57% of the profits in the CBA.. i think that was the number... close though..

So in Minnesota.. the owners need over 1 billion to finish the stadium after the city chips in some...

Should the players getting 57% of profits chip in 57% of the cost? No i dont think so.

The owners have the money, they are rich. they finance our football fun... dont make the owners out as the bad guys.

Our country now has this tendency to make the owners bad guys... owners pay jobs, salaries, commisions and send in double FICA payments per employee to pay for Medicare and Medicaid for all the social programs.... Our country needs about 25% more small business owners nation wide to hire people and pay all our countries social costs..

on my own since 1983... I battle this stuff daily... Then have to pay my own healthcare. And buy football tickets...

do they really really honestly need a new BILLION dollar stadium or how much over it's going to cost?? ... probably not, but they're trying to save their franchise because it has had talks of moving ... so getting a new stadium will put a stop to that talk


and i'n my accounting class i'm pretty sure learned that business pay half(or matches) of what the employee pays for FICA ... but anyway not going to argue about that ...

but i will say that large companies and rich ppl should pay more taxes ... simple solution ... why do you need millions and billions ... when ppl are getting by on 40k a house hold??? ... the whole wealth trickle down system just doesn't work ... and how much taxes large corporations defer to other years ... it's just not fair ... but if regular ppl make a mistake or something for like 10k their quick to come after you ...but like apple put a small plant or whatever in Nevada i think (even though their main company is in California) and says the thing in Nevada handles all their money collection and by doing this since Nevada has different laws for Taxes , they get out of paying MILLIONS in taxes ...

Banks use our money to make MILLIONS ... but pay us not even a % of interest(when in reality they're borrowing the money from us) ... but if we borrow money from them , we pay 7-30 % interest depending on credit

SELFISH ppl are the downfall of this country ...Walmart makes how much money and Has a lot of ppl employed , but pay the ppl like 8-10 bucks an hour, meanwhile their cashflow is in the like 30 billion region ... my only question is why to me that's selfish and killing us

but anyway lets get back on topic lol this isn't football talk

Real Deal Steel
05-31-2012, 10:55 AM
SELFISH ppl are the downfall of this country ...Walmart makes how much money and Has a lot of ppl employed , but pay the ppl like 8-10 bucks an hour, meanwhile their cashflow is in the like 30 billion region ... my only question is why to me that's selfish and killing us

but anyway lets get back on topic lol this isn't football talk

Quote of the year. Selfish, greedy people and corporations are the downfall of this country.

K Train
05-31-2012, 10:58 AM
So what weve learned is mike wallace waiting 15 more days to sign his tender = an evilness parallel with that of walmart


jesus.

TarlsQtr
05-31-2012, 02:01 PM
Quote of the year. Selfish, greedy people and corporations are the downfall of this country.

Then skip the STEELERS games on CBS this year that you watch on DIRECTV's NFL Sunday ticket using your PHILIPS high def TV that you bought from BEST BUY. Also, give up your TOSHIBA laptop, MICROSOFT platform, COMCAST cable internet and the CONSTELLATION energy company that powers them all while you post here.

The reason that people at Wal-Mart make $8 per hour is that it takes virtually no skill to do the job. If people want to make more than that, get more skills and education.

I, for one, have never received a job from a poor man. Only from the "rich", "greedy", and "corporations."

TarlsQtr
05-31-2012, 02:10 PM
SELFISH ppl are the downfall of this country ...Walmart makes how much money and Has a lot of ppl employed , but pay the ppl like 8-10 bucks an hour, meanwhile their cashflow is in the like 30 billion region ... my only question is why to me that's selfish and killing us

Question. After costs, where does the rest of the "$30 billion" go? Could it be to the people that invested THEIR hard-earned money into the company by buying stock? Could it be to those who I assume you consider not greedy, that have mutual funds, pension plans, and 401ks with Wal-Mart stock in it?

It is not about "rich" Wal-Mart versus the "poor." It is about granny who invested her hard-earned money into the company via her pension versus someone with little or no skills wanting to earn $50,000 per year to stock shelves. Granny risked her money (she would lose some/all if the stock tanked) and deserves the reward.

Sheetz
05-31-2012, 03:35 PM
Then skip the STEELERS games on CBS this year that you watch on DIRECTV's NFL Sunday ticket using your PHILIPS high def TV that you bought from BEST BUY. Also, give up your TOSHIBA laptop, MICROSOFT platform, COMCAST cable internet and the CONSTELLATION energy company that powers them all while you post here.

The reason that people at Wal-Mart make $8 per hour is that it takes virtually no skill to do the job. If people want to make more than that, get more skills and education.

I, for one, have never received a job from a poor man. Only from the "rich", "greedy", and "corporations."

Couldn't agree more with you. As much as some people hate big business, they are needed.
Plenty of socialist countries around the world people can move to if hey don't appreciate the opportunities here in the U.S.

The players are not underpaid by any means, IMO.

TarlsQtr
05-31-2012, 03:45 PM
The players are not underpaid by any means, IMO.

100% agreement. This thread is about Mike Wallace not signing his $2.7 million contract. That is not to say that he should not do everything to get more if he can. After all, that is part of capitalism too. However, the thought of that kind of money as too little to play a game seems absurd to me.

NorCalSteel
05-31-2012, 04:56 PM
Does Mike ever politely ask you to get off his nutsack??..lol
So what weve learned is mike wallace waiting 15 more days to sign his tender = an evilness parallel with that of walmart


jesus.

K Train
05-31-2012, 05:06 PM
someones gotta defend him with a fan base filled with irrationality and hatred towards anything thats not rah rah steeler smashmouth football and anything to do with a contract dispute.

none of us can truly relate, but i would guess that the most annoying part of living your dream playing a childs game for a living and making a great living at that...would be being a restricted free agent

cbrunn
05-31-2012, 05:13 PM
Question. After costs, where does the rest of the "$30 billion" go? Could it be to the people that invested THEIR hard-earned money into the company by buying stock? Could it be to those who I assume you consider not greedy, that have mutual funds, pension plans, and 401ks with Wal-Mart stock in it?

It is not about "rich" Wal-Mart versus the "poor." It is about granny who invested her hard-earned money into the company via her pension versus someone with little or no skills wanting to earn $50,000 per year to stock shelves. Granny risked her money (she would lose some/all if the stock tanked) and deserves the reward.

I could honestly answer this question for you if i looked at their annual reports like their return on equity and how much they paid to stock owners ... but don't feel like it ...

and yes big companies are needed ...and it don't matter how much skill is required , it's not needed for them to HOLD THEIR MONEY...instead of paying the ppl that our PAYING THEM, THEM BIG BUCKS...nothing ever get's back to us regular ppl even though WERE the ones that make Walmart and such their money (no higher wages or raises, no lower prices only risen prices even though they're already making billions) ...

but anyway this isn't football talk lol

NorCalSteel
05-31-2012, 05:18 PM
are you done preaching yet...yawn it is funny to me that you think your opinion is the only one that counts. I have seen you miss on a bunch of your posts..Nobody has ever said the word hate I have read? but you assume..are you just the best fan out there because you say so? get over it...Your "I love me" under your name clearly states your biased opinions..

coldrolled
05-31-2012, 05:28 PM
pay half(or matches) of what the employee pays for FICA ...

In a logical way the employer pays twice, if i dont hire a person because things are tight i save twice the fica...

If i layoff folks i pay again... for unemployment plus your tax payer dollars pay for that too.

But my main point was football, you went off in a tangent, should the players pay for the 57% of the stadium, they get 57% of the profits..???

cbrunn
05-31-2012, 10:25 PM
In a logical way the employer pays twice, if i dont hire a person because things are tight i save twice the fica...

If i layoff folks i pay again... for unemployment plus your tax payer dollars pay for that too.

But my main point was football, you went off in a tangent, should the players pay for the 57% of the stadium, they get 57% of the profits..???

Thanks for the knowledge... i'm almost done the 2 year accounting degree , so i'll store this in my mind

but to answer your question no i don't think they should pay for 57% of it ... because they have no say in how big or what gets put in the stadium to decide the cost ... but i have no problem with say like a 500 a week contribution to a future stadium fund ... 500x52=26000 x 16 = 416000 a year x say 20 = 8320000 from the players seem like a fair amount or something like that , but of course that's all hypothetical

Callax
06-01-2012, 06:09 AM
unless he puts up 85+ catches, 1400+ yards 10+ TD's he will NOT get LT money! deal with it he is not THAT GOOD!

BlitzburghRockCity
06-05-2012, 08:36 AM
Just figured I'd toss this out to ya'll..

For those that maybe didn't hear the show where Ike was talking about Mike Wallace, in the beginning he mentioned that #17 that Wallace told him that he wants paid like Rice and Moss because he's got better stats after 3 years.

When his career is all said and done, who knows what me might accomplish but no player after just 3 years in the league, and one that disappeared in the 2nd half of 2011, should have the jewels to compare himself to anyone just yet.

Wallace this and Wallace that, blah blah blah...but hey 17, if you are worried about injuries then sign your damn contract and get to camp already. Ok I'm done now, really....

From John Harris at the Trib.. (http://triblive.com/sports/steelers/1912992-85/wallace-steelers-voluntary-workouts-contract-nicks-smith-players-team-free?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+tribunereviewsteelers+(Steele rs+Stories))

If restricted free-agent receiver Mike Wallace is paying attention, no way he shows up at the Steelers’ facility until he signs his free-agent tender for 2012 or signs a new long-term contract.
What if Wallace injures himself like Nicks did during voluntary workouts? Will the Steelers still sign him to a new deal? Will they insist he rehabilitate his injury first?

I interviewed Smith for an article about NFL back injuries that appeared in Sunday’s Tribune-Review. Most telling for me was how Smith, once the ultimate team player, now tells players to put their own needs ahead of the team’s.

..will the Steelers hold it against Wallace if he remains a no-show for voluntary workouts, which conclude this week?

Wallace has until June 15 to sign his free-agent tender of $2.742 million. The Steelers can reduce their offer after that date.

That’s a lot of money to play football, Steelers fans will tell you. Wallace should be grateful the Steelers are willing to pay him nearly $3 million to play a sport fans would play for free, the chatter goes.

Wallace must play to get paid. But he can’t play without a contract.
The Steelers want Wallace to show good faith and report so the two sides can negotiate a deal.

In his first three NFL seasons, Wallace averaged more yards per catch than Jerry Rice and Randy Moss did in their first three years. He wants to be paid like one of the top receivers in football.

Players are paid for their performance. Wallace doesn’t have to attend voluntary workouts to prove his worth. But if he reports without a contract, what’s to prevent him from becoming another Hakeem Nicks, who took one for the team but ended up taking one in the foot?

K Train
06-05-2012, 09:04 AM
unless he puts up 85+ catches, 1400+ yards 10+ TD's he will NOT get LT money! deal with it he is not THAT GOOD!

those are very reasonable numbers lol, and whos LT?