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BlitzburghRockCity
03-04-2012, 03:47 AM
http://www.steeleraddicts.com/blog/wp-includes/js/tinymce/plugins/wordpress/img/trans.gifThe first round tender will cost the team $2.74 million - ensuring they get a first round pick as compensation.
The second round tender will cost them $1.92 million - ensuring they get a second round pick in compensation.
The equal draft round tender will cost them $1.26 million - ensuring they get a draft pick equal to the round the player was originally drafted in.

As of the most recent cuts, the Steelers are between $10-$11 million under the salary cap but a good chunk of that, if not most of it, figures to be used up on their RFA's.

Mike Wallace: This one is a given. Unless the front office can come to a long term contract offer with Wallace before the deadline, they'll use the 1st round tender on him to ensure they get compensation should they decide to let him leave. Any team can sign Wallace to an offer sheet and the Steelers have that 7 day window to match it. The market for him is still potentially there but given the huge list of free agent receivers out there he may not get what most originally thought might be available to him. Teams generally don't give up first round picks for restricted free agents so the Steelers should be able to keep Wallace. If they were to let him go though, that first round pick could be used to help bolster the offensive line or middle linebacker positions for sure. - Projection: 1st round tender.

Ramon Foster: The Steelers figure to bring back Foster as well, he was the starting RG for most of the season after a short experiment with Doug Legursky in his place. Foster is a solid run blocker and has been improving his pass protection over his first 3 years in the league. He had a very good year in 2010 playing between rookie Maurkice Pouncey and Flozell Adams. With the struggles at both center and right tackle last year, Foster had his ups and downs but he's worth bringing back. He'll be in the mix for the starting job again with Legursky and any potential draft picks. Projection: 2nd round tender .

Doug Legursky: The best utility lineman in the NFL, Legursky is the quintessential jack of all trades, master of none. "Gursk" has been a savior for Sean Kugler's group since he's been with the team, now 3 seasons. He started Super Bowl XLV at Center, and has played every position on the line since then due to injuries and inconsistent play of others. With Maurkice Pouncey's ankle injuries last year, Legursky played in his position quite extensively and is a valuable asset to the team. He is recovering from shoulder surgery but should be fine for next year. Projection: 2nd round tender.

Ryan Mundy: He's been the main backup to both Troy Polamalu and Ryan Clark the last 2 years and considering he's the only reserve Safety on the roster besides Will Allen, losing Mundy is not an option in my opinion. He was a originally a 6th round draft pick in 2008 and is certainly worth more than that to the team. Considering that the Safety pool in this years draft is weak, they would be wise to ensure his services. Mundy is also a standout on special teams as well, something they will certainly take into consideration. Projection: 2nd round tender.

David Johnson: Played in all 16 games this season, at reserve tight end and also full back. He had 12 catches for 91 yds and 1 touchdown. Early in the year he was a regular safety valve for Ben Roethlisberger, picking up key first downs. Johnson was a 7th round pick in 2009 and probably isn't going to get much attention in free agency. The Steelers should have no problems keeping him with a low tender. Even with rookie free agent Weslye Saunders suspended for the first four games of the upcoming season, Johnson isn't worth using a 2nd round offer on at this point. Should he somehow leave, they can draft a late round player at his position to hold them over during Saunders' suspension. Projection: draft round tender.

Keenan Lewis: Even with last years draft picks Curtis Brown and Cortez Allen on the roster, Lewis will have his shot to fight for the starting job opposite Ike Taylor next year. He played in all 16 games in 2011, ending with 37 tackles, 6 passes defensed, and 1 interception. After ending up in Mike Tomlin's dog house in 2010 he turned things around last year and was the regular NB behind starter Will Gay. With Gay an unrestricted free agent, Keenan has a great of landing that starting job. Projection: 2nd round tender.

Jamon Meredith: He was signed to provide depth on the offensive line last year with Willie Colon went on injured reserve. He was inactive for most of the season except for a stint mid year when he filled in due to all the injuries. There's no reason to waste a tender offer on him at this point given what else they need to take care of. If they really want him back for training camp he'll likely be available: Projection: No tender offer.

If this scenario unfolds they would be giving out over $11 million in offers which will eat up all of their available cash recently freed up, and then some. The front office can still restructure the deals of players like Troy Polamalu, James Harrison, and Casey Hampton for example, which will free up additional resources and give them some breathing room. I would expect to see a couple more restructures this offseason yet for sure. They'll want to have some breathing room available for free agency should something happen this with injuries and what not.

If they would choose to not do more restructures then that makes David Johnson and Ramon Foster expendable most likely as well as possibly. Another move could be to release Will Allen, which would free up another $1.2 million or so. Clearly there is still work to be done but so far the front office has done an outstanding job, like always, in getting the team ready for next year.

Thoughts?

cmerrifield
03-04-2012, 09:34 AM
I think Legs, Lewis and Mundy will only get original round tenders. We can always match an offer and no one is going to overpay for these guys and give up a draft pick (we would get nothing for Legs). I am even on the fence about Foster, I am not sure he gets a second round either.

BlacknGold Bleeder
03-04-2012, 10:17 AM
Talk to them and let them know their status on the team. Ask them to give the team a chance to match any offer they get,then don't use any of the cap space on them. Wallace and possibly Legs are probably the only 2 that will get offers so make an offer to Legs so e's not a complete loss...

cmerrifield
03-04-2012, 10:42 AM
Talk to them and let them know their status on the team. Ask them to give the team a chance to match any offer they get,then don't use any of the cap space on them. Wallace and possibly Legs are probably the only 2 that will get offers so make an offer to Legs so e's not a complete loss...

The Steelers automatically get a chance to match any offer that a restricted free agent gets.

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Nolrog
03-04-2012, 04:10 PM
>>> As of the most recent cuts, the Steelers are between $10-$11 million under the salary cap but a good chunk of that, if not most of it, figures to be used up on their RFA's.

Just to note, that's after taking care of their draft picks.

>>> but a good chunk of that, if not most of it, figures to be used up on their RFA's.

Yup, that sounds about right (I wrote about this the other day in one of my replies.) Wallace figures to eat up about half of what we have available.

>>> The front office can still restructure the deals of players like Troy Polamalu, James Harrison, and Casey Hampton for example

Hampton is going to be cut. Letting him go saves almost 6 million against the cap, he won't be ready until well into the season, if at all and he's no more than a 1 or 2 down player anymore. That's a whole lot of money for a guy who can't play every down.

BlitzburghRockCity
03-06-2012, 02:43 PM
I just don't think they can justify cutting Hampton right now. Colbert expects him back and unless they draft a NT who's as close to a sure thing as possible, I'd feel better if he sticks around. If they do cut him though it's not going to be until after 6/1; after the draft and when any cuts or restructures can be pushed off to an additional year.

coldrolled
03-06-2012, 04:37 PM
I just don't think they can justify cutting Hampton right now. Colbert expects him back and unless they draft a NT who's as close to a sure thing as possible, I'd feel better if he sticks around. If they do cut him though it's not going to be until after 6/1; after the draft and when any cuts or restructures can be pushed off to an additional year.

This will play out like Starks did last year... See you later in the year with our new offer.

Nolrog
03-06-2012, 07:19 PM
I just don't think they can justify cutting Hampton right now.

I don't understand why you keep saying that. Hampton is coming off an ACL. It's unlikely that he will be ready to start the year. He's not a huge work out guy and with 1 leg, he won't be able to do that much anyway. He's at best a 2 down guy anyway and his cap savings is nearly 6 million dollars (aka a top of the line FA guard). How does it make sense to not cut him?

BlitzburghRockCity
03-07-2012, 05:43 PM
Because, how confident are you in McLendon to carry the load right now? I'm certainly not ready to hand him over the reigns to such an important position especially with no veteran backup. Why wouldn't you keep Casey on the roster, figuring by late October he might be able to play and help out if needed.

The only way I'd be somewhat comfortable with letting Hampton go right now is if they were somehow able to draft Dontari Poe; and even then I wouldn't be all warm and fuzzy inside. For everything great that Poe was at the combine he wasn't without question at Memphis. Yeah they weren't a very good team and he's only one guy but some of the highlights I saw of him he was able to just basically stand there and hold his own. He was so much better than his competition that he didn't have to work very hard. Now everybody in the league is better than he is so there is a question as to how motivated he'll be.

Having said that I like his potential as much as anyone and would love to see him come to Pittsburgh. I think he could be the next great player if things go well for him. Short of that though I'd rather have Hampton around at least until training camp.

Nolrog
03-07-2012, 07:02 PM
Because, how confident are you in McLendon to carry the load right now? I'm certainly not ready to hand him over the reigns to such an important position especially with no veteran backup. Why wouldn't you keep Casey on the roster, figuring by late October he might be able to play and help out if needed.

I'm not confident in McLendon at all, but that's besides the point.

The point is what's the best use of that money (and we're talking about a sizeable chunk.) Is it paying Hampton on the PUP and hoping he only misses half the year, or is it going out and signing the top guard in free agency for the same money?

BlitzburghRockCity
03-07-2012, 09:09 PM
To me there is no clear cut answer to that that question. I could make a case for either one. It all depends on how the draft goes but there's no way I cut him before then; doing so forces your hand in the draft and the Steelers don't normally like to operate that way.

What if you cut Hampton and you miss out on Poe, Martin, and then Ta'amu, then you're royally screwed.

I would love to see them take 2 Guards in the draft this year, hell spend the whole draft on the offensive line but either way I'm just not convinced you can release Casey before training camp.

K Train
03-07-2012, 09:20 PM
i still like the idea of making hood play NT, or even going into the year with mcclendon, woods, or anthony gray

BlitzburghRockCity
03-07-2012, 11:19 PM
Bringing back Anthony Gray wouldn't be a bad idea at all depending on how the draft works out. I believe he had a workout with the Bills earlier this offseason but to my knowledge nothing has come of it yet.

Are you that confident in Hood as a NT though dude? I know you pretty much can't stand him at DE, LOL. As a temporary solution it could be doable but I don't know that I'd put him out there full time.

CowherPower
03-09-2012, 12:35 AM
From what I read on twitter, we should find out what the 2012 cap number will be. This will give us a pretty good indication of how much they'll be able to tender guys like Legursky, Lewis, and the rest of the RFA's.

coldrolled
03-09-2012, 07:50 AM
90 played nt fine. Woods is a hidden beast or bust right now.
98 has a torn acl, we wouldnt see him till december along with mendy. we can't have them both on the roster like we did with smith and lose our youth.

JensK
03-09-2012, 09:35 AM
90 played nt fine. Woods is a hidden beast or bust right now.
98 has a torn acl, we wouldnt see him till december along with mendy. we can't have them both on the roster like we did with smith and lose our youth.

That is not true. ACL injuries take way longer for RBs than it does for NT and guys like that. Hampton MAY start on pup, but most believe that he should be ready to start in September.

BlitzburghRockCity
03-09-2012, 09:48 AM
Here's what Ed Bouchette thinks they will do with their RFA's. By the way we should find out who's getting tagged and who's not, sometime this weekend if not by Monday.

Mike Wallace – First-round tender, which could set up three separate dramas, one of which may not end until around this time next year. The first is whether another team will offer him a contract and whether Wallace will sign it. If he does, it sets up the second, whether the Steelers will match it (or if they CAN match it) or take the first-round pick. The third would occur if Wallace does not sign elsewhere, whether he and the Steelers can come to an agreement on a multiple-year contract or whether he plays the 2012 season for $2.742 million and becomes UFA next year.

Ramon Foster – Second-round tender. Normally, a starting guard would be worth a one-year $2.742 million but the Steelers are watching their pennies and an $800,000 savings is worth it in this case. He was not drafted, so the lower tender would bring no draft choice.

Doug Legursky – Second-round tender. Same reasons as Foster.

Keenan Lewis – Original round. Lewis would bring a third-round draft pick. If William Gay leaves, he would compete to start with Cortez Allen and Curtis Brown. It’s somewhat of a gamble and it’s possible the Steelers will drop the second-rounder on him too.

Ryan Mundy – Original round. Mundy would bring a sixth-round draft pick. As a backup, they cannot afford to pay him nearly $2 million.

David Johnson – Original round. Johnson would bring a seventh-round draft pick and it gets dicey here because they are so thin at tight end. Weslye Saunders, a rookie last season, is suspended for the first four games of the season. However, Johnson was used mostly as a fullback and they do have tight end Jame McCoy, whom they believe could handle that job.

Jamon Meredith – No tender, making him a UFA. They also are thin at tackle but they also could re-sign him because he’s not expected to attract much interest elsewhere..

Nolrog
03-10-2012, 06:24 PM
The point is what's the best use of that money (and we're talking about a sizeable chunk.) Is it paying Hampton on the PUP and hoping he only misses half the year, or is it going out and signing the top guard in free agency for the same money?

Just coming back to this. With the Vikings releasted Steve Hutchinson, a 5-time first team All-Pro. He was scheduled to make 6.95 million this year (richest contract for a guard.) We could offer him Hampton's cap savings and solidify the line in one fell swoop. These are the kinds of choices we have (there are quite a few really good players that hit FA in the last few days. I'm not a big believer in posting them one by one, but when you get a top player at (arguably) the weakest position on the team, you gotta strongly consider it.

Real Deal Steel
03-10-2012, 09:43 PM
Hutchinson has been a top 3 guard in the league for a while now. I think at this point in his career he'd enjoy finally playing for a winner.

I'd love to add him, subtract Hampton and add Ta'amu from the draft. Give Hutchinson a two year deal while still drafting his ultimate successor in the first or second round.