View Full Version : No "bounty" talk in a Dick Lebeau defense
03-03-2012, 02:02 AM
Unless you live under a rock, you can't help but be aware of the New Orleans Saints "bounty" investigation (http://The%20program%20runs%20in%20violation%20of%20leagu e%20rules,%20and%20the%20investigation%20showed%20 that%20Saints%20players%20received%20$1,500%20for% 20a%20%22knockout%22%20hit%20and%20$1,000%20for%20 a%20%22cart-off%22%20hit,%20with%20payouts%20doubling%20or%20t ripling%20during%20the%20team%27s%20three%20playof f%20appearances.%20%20A%20memo%20sent%20to%20clubs %20throughout%20the%20league%20included%20a%20stat ement%20on%20how%20Saints%20linebacker%20Jonathan% 20Vilma%20put%20up%20$10,000%20cash%20as%20a%20bou nty%20before%20a%20playoff%20game,%20a%20source%20 familiar%20with%20the%20memo%20told%20NFL%20Networ k%20insider%20Jason%20La%20Canfora.%20%20The%20mem o%20also%20said%20Mike%20Ornstein,%20a%20noted%20m arketing%20agent%20who%20has%20close%20ties%20to%2 0Saints%20head%20coach%20Sean%20Payton%20and%20has %20worked%20with%20him%20on%20projects%20in%20the% 20past,%20put%20up%20money%20as%20a%20bounty%20at% 20least%20twice.) by the NFL's security department. The Trib's Mark Kaboly tweeted out a thought early this morning mentioning this very subject: @MarkKaboly_Trib: Something tells me that you don't have to worry about Dick LeBeau installing some kind of bounty program with the #Steelers. #JustSayin
The program runs in violation of league rules, and the investigation showed that Saints players received $1,500 for a "knockout" hit and $1,000 for a "cart-off" hit, with payouts doubling or tripling during the team's three playoff appearances.
A memo sent to clubs throughout the league included a statement on how Saints linebacker Jonathan Vilma (http://www.nfl.com/players/jonathanvilma/profile?id=VIL582180) put up $10,000 cash as a bounty before a playoff game, a source familiar with the memo told NFL Network insider Jason La Canfora.
The memo also said Mike Ornstein, a noted marketing agent who has close ties to Saints head coach Sean Payton and has worked with him on projects in the past, put up money as a bounty at least twice.
This could turn out to be bigger than spygate was if the investigation leads to other teams who may have taken part in an "incentive" program like this. Honestly I would be shocked if there weren't more that come out quite honestly.
I think it's a safe assumption with a team like the Steelers, owners like the Rooney's, and a coach like Dick Lebeau you won't see any such news coming out of Pittsburgh.
03-03-2012, 09:23 AM
I would think so, but when it comes to the real world, one never knows.
I remember Suggs had a bounty out on some Steelers, and denied everything even though I do believe he had clearly made statements towards as much. I wonder how that would go over today?
03-03-2012, 10:13 AM
It's not bigger than spygate.It will be judged harsher than it because of all of the efforts to make the game safer.The patriots always get treated differently by the league because there owner is a big Goodell *** kissin brown noser.The uneven pattern of disipline is mindboggling.Big Ben was never convicted of anything and was suspended 4 games.While other players get DUI'S and beat theier wives or girlfriend and continue to play games. THE SAINTS WILL BE FINED NOTHING MORE . I say this not because they deserve only to be fined but because that is the precident that Goodell has set .the more i think about what the pats did it makes me wanna smash my pc they should have lost a bunch of draft picks and stripped of the super bowl trophies all of them.
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03-03-2012, 10:18 AM
03-03-2012, 10:21 AM
Terrell Suggs (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=4468)' suggestion that the Baltimore Ravens (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=bal) had a "bounty" on Pittsburgh Steelers (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=pit) wide receiver Hines Ward (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=1494) and running back Rashard Mendenhall (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=11257) has gotten the attention of the NFL.
During the "2 Live Stews" syndicated radio show on Oct. 17, when he was asked, "Did you all put a bounty out on that young man [Mendenhall]," Suggs replied, "Definitely. The bounty was out on him and the bounty was out on [Ward] -- we just didn't get him between the whistles."
Also during the interview, Suggs called Ward "a dirty player" and "a cheap-shot artist. ... We got something in store for him."
Ward, who appeared on "PTI" on Thursday, said the bounty talk is "a big honor."
"I am really not going to comment," Ward continued. "But all I have to say to Mr. Suggs is there's a policy in the NFL [against bounties] he should read."
Ray Anderson, the NFL's executive vice president of football operations, said the league is looking into the comments.
Mike & Mike On The "Bounty"
Terrell Suggs' comment about the Ravens having a "bounty" on Steelers WR Hines Ward and RB Rashard Mendenhall was a hot topic on ESPN Radio's "Mike & Mike In The Morning" on Thursday.
"That 'bounty' notion is completely against the rules," Anderson told ESPN.com. "To the extent that someone is engaged in that activity, we will look into it and address it. Yes, we've seen the comments and we're trying to determine the completeness of the circumstances." Mendenhall sustained a season-ending shoulder injury during the game on a hit by Ravens linebacker Ray Lewis (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=964). Wednesday, Suggs clarified his comments, explaining that the Ravens were merely planning to keep a close eye on Ward, according to The Baltimore Sun.
"There wasn't any bounty," Suggs said, according to the newspaper. "He [the talk show host] asked me if there was a bounty and I just said I'm going to keep a watch on the guy. He [Ward] broke some guy's jaw last week, and he tried to cheap-shot JJ [Jarret Johnson (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=4567)]. He has also cheap-shotted Ed Reed (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?playerId=3552). We're just going to be on alert the next time we play him."
From ESPN (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3659317)
03-03-2012, 11:58 AM
Hate to go there but it's true. There is favoritism in this league and Goodell can deny it all he wants to but it exists. We all know SpyGate was way bigger than we'll ever know and this probably is too.
Goodell will do anything to avoid scandal if he has the opportunity to do anything about it. It was done to protect Ray-Ray under Tagliabue and was done to protect the Pats.
Why else does Goodell always talk about 'protecting the game?' What he means is he is 'protecting the pocketbooks of owners.'
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03-03-2012, 04:58 PM
Clark, never at a loss for words, had an interesting though on twitter...
Whoever is snitching on the Saints D should be ashamed of themselves. No one was talking about the "bounty" when they got paid. #shame (https://twitter.com/#%21/search/%23shame)!
03-04-2012, 01:47 PM
There are reports out now that there were bounties being paid while Williams was DC in Washington and when he was HC in Buffalo. As more and more info comes out, I think the Rams need to cut ties with him. Also, the NFL's security dept. has a 500,000+ page report of their investigation.
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