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BlitzburghRockCity
01-22-2007, 09:43 PM
It shouldn't matter what the color of somebody's skin is as to their qualifications to be a head coach. The media has been riding that train ever since both Lovie Smith and Tony Dungy got to the championship game, and once Tomlin was hired the media today at the press conference was asking him about that several times. To me it seems like that are just trying to :stirpot: , I just don't get it. I don't care if you're black, white, blue, orange or yellow; if you can coach in this league then you can coach, period. The Rooney's had the foresight to pave the way with the Rooney rule for minority coaches, but in this day and age it shouldn't come to that, you should be judged on your merit and qualifications alone.

You watch sooner or later this is going to blow up into something it shouldn't and NFL will have to deal with it unfortunately.

NOTE ! Do not turn this into a race battle or I will close and delete this thread in a heartbeat. Im just merely exploring the reasons as to why the media does this type of stuff.

K Train
01-22-2007, 09:46 PM
OMG a black head coach! Im sick of hearing about it already it really doesnt matter AT ALL imo

Friday133
01-22-2007, 09:47 PM
Many minorities play the game, but few coach the game. The % is out of whack. The Rooney Rule is in place to give minorities a foot in the door. Frankly it shouldn't matter at all IMO.

Steelerlyn
01-22-2007, 09:49 PM
Let's be the first Steeler site on the net to raise the bar here at Steeler Addicts and keep the race card out of all this, we want to see Tomlin raise the trophy because he worked to deserve it. :tt02: :tt02: :tt02:

BlitzburghRockCity
01-22-2007, 09:50 PM
That's exactly right Lyn, race shouldnt even be brought into the equation and it's pathetic that the media stoops that low.

SA will never become like other sites in that regard, you can bank on that !

Friday133
01-22-2007, 09:51 PM
However race has played a part in the NFL, no one can deny that.

BlitzburghNation
01-22-2007, 09:51 PM
Fuels this issue,,,,always have and probably always will :dunno:
I agree with you guy's color doesn't matter,,,,,never has and never will with me :bigthumb:

BlitzburghRockCity
01-22-2007, 09:54 PM
The NFL is predominately filled with african american athletes and each one of them is in phenomenal condition and deserves to be on an NFL roster for their talents and own merit...there's so many of them that are assistant coaches that it's sad it takes them so long to get to be NFL head coaches.

Koopa
01-22-2007, 09:55 PM
i don't think it should matter, but i think they harp on it to get the message out that it no longer matters, they are trying to show all the little black kids growing up that they too can be a head coach, that's why i think they are gonna play it up for awhile......

BlitzburghRockCity
01-22-2007, 10:00 PM
If that's the reason then they could do about it in a more positive manner instead of harping on all the negatives and few amount of coaches in the past, etc.

DIESELMAN
01-22-2007, 10:03 PM
Thats the media for ya. Whatever it takes to get or make a story. Personally anyone who brings that up should be taken aroundd back and their *** kicked.....I'm tired of hearing that crap myself. Can't they just give credit where credit is due because the man actually deserved the job in the opinion of the Rooneys? and Dungy and Smith because they are damn good coaches and know what the hell they are doing? Give it a rest media!!!

BlitzburghNation
01-22-2007, 10:07 PM
:iagree:
Great points DEEZ :clap:

House of Steel
01-22-2007, 10:11 PM
diesel is right on the money. The Race Card has got to go when it comes to head coaching. Some of America's brightest ideas and inventions has come from our brothers of nations.

Koopa
01-22-2007, 10:11 PM
If that's the reason then they could do about it in a more positive manner instead of harping on all the negatives and few amount of coaches in the past, etc.


true, but it's the media, positive stuff doesn't sell........ i liked the way tomlin handled all the questions when they asked him about stuff related to color of his skin, and you could tell he was getting annoyed by it...........

BlitzburghRockCity
01-22-2007, 10:18 PM
As well he should be annoyed by it, it's just not right. He did handle himself well and he should be commended for keeping his poise.

BB2W
01-22-2007, 10:33 PM
I agree... I look at the person/coach not his race.

Koopa
01-22-2007, 10:59 PM
I agree... I look at the person/coach not his race.


not me lol.....the only reason i wanted rivera was because he is hispanic lol

Black@Gold Forever32
01-22-2007, 11:05 PM
I wasn't raised to look at skin color so I don't see Mike Tomlin as a black head coach. I just see him as a HC. The only things I care about is how good a person Mike Tomlin is and if he is a good coach.

As for the media Top, you know the media they're always trying to stir the pot and create news.

BlitzburghRockCity
01-22-2007, 11:07 PM
Yes they do and they always will, but it still pisses me off that today's society in professional sports harps on such a stupid topic to gain ratings.

BB2W
01-22-2007, 11:07 PM
I've always kinda thought the "Rooney Rule" was created because of Marvin Lewis being such a successfull assistant/coordinator, but not getting his due look at head coaching jobs.

Black@Gold Forever32
01-22-2007, 11:11 PM
Yes they do and they always will, but it still pisses me off that today's society in professional sports harps on such a stupid topic to gain ratings.

It pisses me off to. But thats the media and it seems as time goes on the media gets worse.

Koopa
01-22-2007, 11:16 PM
i've always been judged on my skin color, i live with nothing but mexicans but i'm the only one with white skin, and they always talking **** to me cause of my skin color, if i had brown skin they wouldn't talk **** but cause it's white they talk ****, it's pretty stupid, the color of your skin doesn't make you the person that you are, that's why i don't talk to half my family they are all dick heads lol......so i know all the **** these guys are going through in a sense

BB2W
01-22-2007, 11:29 PM
i've always been judged on my skin color, i live with nothing but mexicans but i'm the only one with white skin, and they always talking **** to me cause of my skin color, if i had brown skin they wouldn't talk **** but cause it's white they talk ****, it's pretty stupid, the color of your skin doesn't make you the person that you are, that's why i don't talk to half my family they are all dick heads lol......so i know all the **** these guys are going through in a senseI work with a Mexican/American, and he takes a lot of crap (not from me) that I'm uncomfortable with. My boss says things like...

"Thank God he's half Mexican... at least he works half the time"

Okay... that is funny, but take it as a compliment. :greengrin:

Stairwayto7
01-23-2007, 08:16 AM
TOP GUN,
Well said, I been thinking the same thing. If we hired a perriwinkle skinned coach it wouldnt matter to me. Well as long as we win anyway! Besides its the best coach for the best fit. Tomlin fits well, I respect the Rooneys decsion. They have had the right coach since 1969, thats a pretty good track record.

AZ_Steeler
01-23-2007, 10:40 AM
Considering it is the media that is making the hiring of black coaches such a big deal, maybe the general public should start making a big deal out of black media types :dunno:

Right now though, IMO, I think it's being made such a big deal because not only did the first black coach qualify for the Super Bowl but the second one did also! Right now it is a a big deal because it was a huge step in the NFL, plus there have only been about 6 black coaches in the league and a couple of them have been recycled from team to team.

BlitzburghRockCity
01-23-2007, 10:45 AM
It pisses me off to. But thats the media and it seems as time goes on the media gets worse.

It's definitely not going to get better anytime soon, just like every other big company the numbers are the bottom line and if they have good ratings they don't care about anything else.

How sad...

Prosdo
01-23-2007, 10:49 AM
My problem with all of this is it's all I seem to be hearing. Let's talk about how qualified this guy is instead. With the Super Bowl I know it is a big moment, but I'd like to hear about the teams and the strategies instead of the race thing. I could care less what race you are. I care about the football and the aspects of the game.

House of Steel
01-23-2007, 10:49 AM
Ethics is really becoming the biggest problem in all sectors of society and employment. Very, Very sad.

AZ_Steeler
01-23-2007, 10:51 AM
Ethics or Ethnics ??

BlitzburghRockCity
01-23-2007, 10:55 AM
Could be both.. Ethics or lack thereof when it comes to reporting the news and Ethics based on ones background ;)

House of Steel
01-23-2007, 11:02 AM
You got me there, AZ, I meant it both ways. Sheesh, I am not fully awake today.

floodcitygirl
01-23-2007, 11:14 AM
IMO, when a person's race or skin tone isn't pointed out, because it's not a factor, is when we as a society have gotten somewhere.

BlitzburghRockCity
01-23-2007, 11:49 AM
Sometimes I wonder if we'll actually ever "get somewhere" as a society.

Blitzburgh55
01-23-2007, 12:12 PM
All they talk about to black heads coachs in the superbwol OMG they dont point out when white people do stuff and they Have All Blacks colleges but you could never have a All white college(and their sports teams would suck)

BlitzburghRockCity
01-23-2007, 12:18 PM
Blitz makes a very interesting point and something you don't always think about. Today's society is just F'd up it's not even remotely funny.

BBG7
01-23-2007, 12:38 PM
Yes the Rooney Rule probably got him his first interview and the Ronney's admitted he was a long shot. But after that he came in and wowed the Rooney's and Kevin and earned everything he got. I sure as hell don't care what color he is, I care that he gets the job done. He is a person and out HC that's all that matters!

Steelerlyn
01-23-2007, 01:37 PM
not me lol.....the only reason i wanted rivera was because he is hispanic lol

That comment makes you a racist, Koop :nono:

Koopa
01-23-2007, 02:23 PM
That comment makes you a racist, Koop :nono:



racist- or racialism is a form of discrimination based on race, especially the belief that one race is superior to another. Racism may be expressed individually and consciously, through explicit thoughts, feelings, or acts, or socially and unconsciously, through institutions that promote inequality between races.


so the heck it does...i wasn't saying he's more superior cause he's hispanic, i ain't talkin down on ppls race like some i know, i ain't bashing no one cause they have a certian skin color, i just would've just liked rivera more cause i too am hispanic for the most part and i thought it would be cool to see him on the sidelines so it had nothing to do with racism.................. also that was at the beginning of this whole search, but as soon as the rooney's said they had narrowed it down to 3 ppl, i wanted tomlin from then on......had nothing to do with skin color, it had more to do with ageism i guess you can say, cause i wanted the younger person over the old folks...........


also, a question...... why do white ppl always seem to get bent out of shape when race comes into talk??? i noticed this when i'm at my grandmas, my step grandpa is mexican so me and him are always having fun saying little comments about being mexican and stuff like that, but my grandma who is full white gets upset about it, and then i see y'all getting y'alls underwear tied up in a bunch over the subject................so if you will, answer that for me, cause i've never lived with a white person for more then a month but even then i always had a mexican around so i don't really know what goes through y'alls heads.......................

Steelerlyn
01-23-2007, 02:41 PM
I try not to get caught up in the race discussions. To be honest, I quickly browsed through some of the posts alluding to race but I didn't really digest the posts and for the most part I think it's best to stay clear. As a white lady, I feel like any comments I make alluding to race in here will be subject to attack. It's a shame I feel that way but it's how I feel.

I could care less about the color of a man's skin. I judge a man by his character and what I believe is on the inside. I'm color blind.

I liked what I heard from Mike Tomlin. I like that he's keeping Dick LeBeau. He has big shoes to fill...any coach coming into the Steelers organization would have that problem regardless of race.

We are all people some of us even mature adults and we would like to see Tomlin raise the Lombardi Trophy because he is great coach and for no other reason. SA has raised the bar over many sites and race is not what is important, nor is it what is talked about, ability and ability only are the source of our comments. When we don't have to discuss race as an issue anymore is when we will have actually made ground in this area.