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SteelDad
01-29-2012, 12:20 PM
Article is from Dan Pompei at NFP so take it for what it's worth. I bolded some of the guys discussed as possible draft picks...

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/NFP-Sunday-Blitz-3115.html

The two links from Wes Bunting and Matt Bowen are worth a look too.

Scout Talk: Senior Bowl

As usual, the Senior Bowl practices last week helped separate prospects in the eyes of NFL scouts. Here is what NFL front office men were talking about after they returned from Mobile Ala., last week. And be sure to check out what Wes Bunting had to say about Senior Bowl prospects here (http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Senior-Bowl-Stock-Watch.html), and what Matt Bowen had to say about he DBs here (http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Breaking-down-the-DB-talent-in-Mobile.html).

Quarterbacks—The player who clearly stood out at this position was Brandon Weeden from Oklahoma State. His arm strength was very good comparatively. It helped that he seemed to pick up the offense quickly. He could be a second round pick, and one scouting director even said if Weeden were 22 instead of 28, he’d be a first round pick. NFL teams also liked what they saw of Wisconsin’s Russell Wilson, even though he measured in at 5-10. The lack of arm strength Kellen Moore showed will not help his draft stock.

Running backs—This group did not leave a major impression, but two players created a little buzz. The first was Cincinnati running back Isaiah Pead, whose versatility appeals to NFL teams. The other was Florida’s Chris Rainey. He’s probably a down the line guy at 5-8, 178, but he partook in some of the receiver one-on-one drills and looked decent. He has some potential as an offensive weapon who can line up in different places.

Wide receivers—Wideouts often make a big impression on Senior Bowl week, but that didn’t happen this year. A few scouts agreed Jeff Fuller of Texas A&M was disappointing. He had trouble separating and catching, and his stock remains on the decline. A number of the receivers flashed. Among them, according to front office men, were Cal’s Marvin Jones, Arizona’s Juron Criner, Ohio State’s Devier Posey, Arkansas’ Joe Adams, Appalachian State’s Brian Quick and Houston’s Patrick Edwards.

Tight end—Alabama’s Brad Smelley has been on the rise all year, and he continued to help his stock at the Senior Bowl by getting open and catching the ball well. For a player who wasn’t on anyone’s radar in the preseason, Smelley has come quite a long way. Missouri tight end Michael Egnew was a little disappointing.

Offensive line—None of the offensive linemen really lit it up. Best of the bunch, according to a couple evaluators, was Ohio State’s Mike Adams. He clearly was the most gifted blocker in Mobile, though scouts still have some questions on him. One player who helped his stock is Jeff Allen from Illinois. His competitiveness and effort left an impression. Two others who had good weeks were Ohio State’s Mike Brewster and Baylor’s Philip Blake. Less encouraging were the showings of Florida State’s Zebrie Sanders and Wisconsin’s Kevin Zeitler.

Defensive line—There was more talent at this position than any other. North Carolina’s Quinton Coples solidified himself as a top 10 pick and clearly was the class of the group. Two others who helped themselves and may have become solid first rounders were Alabama’s Courtney Upshaw and South Carolina’s Melvin Ingram, whose versatility makes him a fit for any kind of defense. Teams that use a three man front came away very impressed with Ta’amu Alameda of Washington. No way he gets out of round two. In one-on-one pass rush drills, Kendall Reyes of Connecticut showed surprising athleticism for his size.

Linebackers—Emmanuel Acho from Texas had a decent week, even showing some pass rush ability. There still is some question as to whether or not he is an inside linebacker or outside linebacker for 3-4 teams, however. North Carolina’s Zach Brown also impressed scouts with is speed and explosiveness. Nebraska’s Lavonte David flashed.
Safeties—Harrison Smith of Notre Dame had a pretty good week, but scouts still have some concern about him playing the deep middle. His interviews were strong. George Iloka of Boise State also did pretty well. Dequan Menzie of Alabama played some safety and corner, but NFL teams still aren’t sure what he is.

Cornerbacks—North Alabama’s Janoris Jenkins confirmed what everyone already knew—that he has first round talent. He was the best corner in the game. I got mixed reviews on Nebraska’s Alfonzo Dennard. One scout said he moved more like a running back than a corner. Cal Poly’s Asa Jackson had a chance to really help himself, but didn’t capitalize. He looked better on tape than he did at Senior Bowl practices. Dwight Bentley of Louisiana-Lafayette had a good week, competing well. Scouts loved the athleticism Georgia’s Brandon Boykin showed, but he didn’t cover all that well. His instincts and ability to react remain question marks.

BlitzburghRockCity
01-29-2012, 05:30 PM
I watched some of the senior bowl, I wanted to see it all but couldn't unfortunately. I did see Adams get owned a few times in that game by just getting bull rushed but overall I liked the raw talent he has. Same with Jeff Allen.

K Train
01-30-2012, 09:57 AM
janoris jenkins looks so good, its a shame hes such a pot head

connecticutsteel
01-30-2012, 11:39 AM
There all pot heads ! Kendall reyes looked good that dude can do a back flip from a standing position and he is 300 lbs .I wouldn't mind if we took him and moved Hood to NT

K Train
01-30-2012, 02:14 PM
i liked what isaw from glenn, with him being the cliche steeler pick in every mock i havent been sold on him as a firt rounder...he seems to be in good shape aka hes not a fat slob and carries 350 very well kinda like marcus cannon did last season

coach
01-30-2012, 09:07 PM
I thought he played well too. A lot can happen in the next couple months but I think a few more mocks will start to have us picking Poe for sure now.

K Train
01-30-2012, 09:22 PM
i think poe is gonna keep rising higher than where we pick...hes far and away the best DT i think (aside from MAYBE brockers but brockers is younger and just as raw) but both can play in either defensive scheme

Black@Gold Forever32
01-30-2012, 10:16 PM
janoris jenkins looks so good, its a shame hes such a pot head

This.......:lol: Kid can freaking ball that is for sure.....

BlitzburghRockCity
01-31-2012, 09:18 AM
Who care if he's a pot head, just keep some munchies on the sideline...LOL.


I love the talent on the defensive line in this draft, overall it seems to be pretty deep at nearly every position of need for us.

SteelDad
01-31-2012, 10:24 AM
K Train, what is your take on Ta’amu Alameda of Washington?

K Train
01-31-2012, 10:24 AM
yeah i totally agree, after holmes though hes untouchable

K Train
01-31-2012, 10:27 AM
K Train, what is your take on Ta’amu Alameda of Washington?

not "that" kind of NT you take in the first...does everything well as a very traditional NT that can clog the middle and maybe get a push. He is a lot like terrence cody in his role but offers 10x the lateral agility and endurance through games. got stronger as the year went on which is an excellent quality in a NT.

Poe has all world potential, taamu could be a solid starter for years though but what you see is what you get, not much room for improvement with him.

SteelDad
02-02-2012, 01:11 PM
not "that" kind of NT you take in the first...does everything well as a very traditional NT that can clog the middle and maybe get a push. He is a lot like terrence cody in his role but offers 10x the lateral agility and endurance through games. got stronger as the year went on which is an excellent quality in a NT.

Poe has all world potential, taamu could be a solid starter for years though but what you see is what you get, not much room for improvement with him.

Good take man, thanks.

connecticutsteel
02-02-2012, 09:59 PM
Ta'amu has an incredible frame,elite strength and areal toughness to do the dirty work in the trenches.For a man his size he moves well in tight spaces and can redirect the pile in either direction as well as shed blocks and carry off a double team.Although he needs some work in his pass rushing skills scouts will be reminded of Haloti Ngata when they see him play. He is a bit overweight but his motor and stamina are above average.He typically plays everydown.Teams that run a 3-4 defense will give him loads of attention. He is asolid second round pick:2cents:

Has more experience against a higher level of competition then Poe

K Train
02-02-2012, 11:40 PM
ngata? no ****ing way. if he compares to anyone its a more athletic cody

poe will be much more like ngata in that he can move around a 34 line and play all the positions

against SC and Stanford he was awful...thats something to look at while looking at his "competition level" decastro stole his lunch money

connecticutsteel
02-03-2012, 08:51 AM
I would say that Decastro is a special player Larry Allen special . Poe is very good but underdeveloped i think i would rather take hood and slide him over and tell him to gain 30 lbs.You are also correct about Ta'amu's talent being maxed out he won't get a whole lot better but he can play at a high level

K Train
02-03-2012, 10:57 AM
ngata was raw too

it wasnt just decastro it was stanford and USCs line that just handled him.

with poe i expect him to be an immediate impact player, not completely sold on him as a pure 34 nose but a special player nonetheless.

Id have branden albert and iupati higher than decastro....hes really shot up enough to be called overrated, larry allen might be a stretch.

connecticutsteel
02-03-2012, 08:44 PM
Meaning he's not quite Larry Allen is that what you ment by strech?