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NYCsteelersfan
01-11-2012, 12:19 PM
I find it hard being optimistic with Tomlin as the head coach. I find it even harder when he proves he can't even make a change at the coordinator position out of fear that he'll be completely exposed. However, as miserable as Arians is, we have the 5th best quarterback in the league and he has a 92 QB rating in 8 seasons. We also have pretty good receivers, 2 very good running backs, a solid tight end, and a great defense.

We need only two things for this team to be able to go to the playoffs and allow the team to win in spite of the coaching staff. We need a rebuilt offensive line and a couple changes in personnel on the defensive line and in the secondary.

If this team opens next season with the same offensive line or only one new lineman, as well as the same secondary and defensive lineman, I'll have to root for a complete collapse of the team and hopefully missing the playoffs so that coaching changes might come about for 2013.

Scorp
01-11-2012, 12:30 PM
Sounds like my uncle with his Bears and Lovie Smith. Will those changes ever come?

connecticutsteel
01-11-2012, 12:35 PM
I really think if we have a solid O-line and we can run the ball then we don't need to change the OC . run sets up the pass

Real Deal Steel
01-11-2012, 12:36 PM
If this team opens next season with the same offensive line or only one new lineman, as well as the same secondary and defensive lineman, I'll have to root for a complete collapse of the team and hopefully missing the playoffs so that coaching changes might come about for 2013.

I'm sad to say it, but I'm starting to think this might have to happen. This team isn't commited to the lines like it used to be. And that isn't just Tomlin, that's the GM!

NYCsteelersfan
01-11-2012, 12:51 PM
Sounds like my uncle with his Bears and Lovie Smith. Will those changes ever come?

lol...but the team got close once they got a real quarterback. If we have a line, Roethlisberger and the defense can make Tomlin look good, just like Cutler and the Bears defense makes Smith look good.

LatrobePA
01-11-2012, 02:56 PM
I really think if we have a solid O-line and we can run the ball then we don't need to change the OC . run sets up the pass

The OC sends the calls in, we do what the OC says to do...

Ben threw the ball 44 times with a RB picking up well over 5 per carry, this current OC doesn't want to run the ball, he hates FB's and would rather air it out!

K Train
01-11-2012, 02:59 PM
"our only hope"


jeez lol, all these dramatic threads

NYCsteelersfan
01-11-2012, 03:00 PM
this current OC doesn't want to run the ball, he hates FB's and would rather air it out!

Sadly, he doesn't know how to do what he wants to do.

steelers75
01-11-2012, 04:28 PM
If this team opens next season with the same offensive line or only one new lineman, as well as the same secondary and defensive lineman, I'll have to root for a complete collapse of the team and hopefully missing the playoffs so that coaching changes might come about for 2013.

Hate to burst your bubble, but it would take more than one season, especially in light of the capital he's already built up (3 division championships, 2 Lamar Hunt trophies, 1 Lombardi trophy in 5 seasons).

They held onto Cowher despite going 7-9 in 1998, 6-10 in 1999 and 9-7 in 2000 after losing 2 AFC Championships at home and a Super Bowl previously. The continued to retain him in 2001 after losing his 3rd AFCCG at home (again in embarrassing fashion), barely squeaking by an expansion Browns team at home in the Wild Card round before getting knocked out the following week in 2002, posting another losing record (6-10) in 2003, losing his 4th AFCCG at home in 2004 (again in embarrassing fashion), before finally breaking through and winning it all in 2005 in a horribly-played Super Bowl that about 95% of non-Steelers fans STILL think was decided by officiating.

So sorry, it's gonna take more than one non-playoff year before the Rooneys show Tomlin the door.

jpele
01-11-2012, 04:53 PM
I'm willing to bet had the injury bug not bit us, this team had a veryi good chance to go all the way. I see no reason to panic.

No matter how much talent a team has, luck and health are a very big part of winning.

NYCsteelersfan
01-11-2012, 09:33 PM
Hate to burst your bubble, but it would take more than one season, especially in light of the capital he's already built up (3 division championships, 2 Lamar Hunt trophies, 1 Lombardi trophy in 5 seasons).

They held onto Cowher despite going 7-9 in 1998, 6-10 in 1999 and 9-7 in 2000 after losing 2 AFC Championships at home and a Super Bowl previously. The continued to retain him in 2001 after losing his 3rd AFCCG at home (again in embarrassing fashion), barely squeaking by an expansion Browns team at home in the Wild Card round before getting knocked out the following week in 2002, posting another losing record (6-10) in 2003, losing his 4th AFCCG at home in 2004 (again in embarrassing fashion), before finally breaking through and winning it all in 2005 in a horribly-played Super Bowl that about 95% of non-Steelers fans STILL think was decided by officiating.

So sorry, it's gonna take more than one non-playoff year before the Rooneys show Tomlin the door.

I'm confident that a losing season would result in a change at offensive coordinator if our offense struggled for that season. Of course I wouldn't expect Tomlin to be fired after one season of missing the playoffs.

And all your examples citing how Cowher wasn't fired after his playoff losses differ dramatically from Tomlin losing in the playoffs. Cowher lost in the playoffs with Neil O'Donnell and Kordell Stewart. Tomlin is losing with Ben Roethlisberger.


I'm willing to bet had the injury bug not bit us, this team had a veryi good chance to go all the way. I see no reason to panic.

No matter how much talent a team has, luck and health are a very big part of winning.

Our offense struggled all season even when the team was healthy. Injuries had nothing to do with our miserable offense. Our offense was incapable of scoring against Baltimore, and we never would've won a shootout against the Packers or the Saints.

RIVERS OF STEEL
01-11-2012, 09:44 PM
Hate to burst your bubble, but it would take more than one season, especially in light of the capital he's already built up (3 division championships, 2 Lamar Hunt trophies, 1 Lombardi trophy in 5 seasons).

They held onto Cowher despite going 7-9 in 1998, 6-10 in 1999 and 9-7 in 2000 after losing 2 AFC Championships at home and a Super Bowl previously. The continued to retain him in 2001 after losing his 3rd AFCCG at home (again in embarrassing fashion), barely squeaking by an expansion Browns team at home in the Wild Card round before getting knocked out the following week in 2002, posting another losing record (6-10) in 2003, losing his 4th AFCCG at home in 2004 (again in embarrassing fashion), before finally breaking through and winning it all in 2005 in a horribly-played Super Bowl that about 95% of non-Steelers fans STILL think was decided by officiating.

So sorry, it's gonna take more than one non-playoff year before the Rooneys show Tomlin the door.

The Rooney's are too busy politcin and ambassarding to be concerned about no stinkin football problems.

NYCsteelersfan
01-11-2012, 09:54 PM
The Rooney's are too busy politcin and ambassarding to be concerned about no stinkin football problems.

Agreed.