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StillersSound
01-10-2012, 02:17 PM
This isn't the type of team or football that the Steelers have pride themselves on or we grew up loving.

- Polamalu in every shampoo commercial

- Ward going Hollywood; dancing like a star, movies, off the field issues.

- Pouncey tweeting during a playoff game.

- Players tweeting right after the game and partying days after.

- Players more worried about getting their t-shirts out then just losing a playoff game.

- Ward's smile disappearing when he isn't on the field and Cotchery is doing well.

- Polamlau casually jogging back on a gw touchdown in the playoffs.

- Players disrespecting fans that have probably been fans of the team longer then they have played for them or even played football for that matter.

Where did it all go wrong? Personally, I'm looking at the timeline of events and I think it's Tomlin. He's a great coach and he gets them motivated to play but he may be too much of a players coach and too easy on them. He rather be a friend then coach and sometimes that works and players rather play for those type of coaches. But when the pressure is on and things aren't going their way and something has to be said to get them going and it isn't they lose playoff games to the Broncos or Super Bowls to the Packers.

steelersbabex25
01-10-2012, 02:21 PM
I think even Troy said in the beginning of the season that this team needed to be humbled. And it took the Denver Broncos and Tim Tebow to (hopefully) do that. Well, for everyone besides Pouncey, obviously.

LatrobePA
01-10-2012, 02:32 PM
Wasn't Terry in commercials and have a country record (4 SB rings)?

I agree though, this team came into this past game big headed and Tebow POPPED it!

steelchamp204
01-10-2012, 02:51 PM
Some of its got to go on Tomlin. Also some of its got to go on the leaders of this team

1.Troy
2.Ben
3.Harrison
4.Farrior
5.Ward.

Im still tryting to figure out who the leader of the WR's is gonna be if ward decides to go elsewhere or retire. Wallace is to into himself being good, I think Brown can be the guy but it will only be his 3rd season. Cotchery maybe. Idk what it is but this team just didnt seem right this year like maybe they thought theyd walk into the playoffs after seeing the schedule.

Black@Gold Forever32
01-10-2012, 06:43 PM
Health played the biggest factor in the team being one and done....But I didn't sense the type of team unity like in years past when this team made Super Bowl runs.....

Going forward this team must invest in the offensive line further....Ben actually needs legit pass protection for once......

While everybody loves our WR core and they're good but there isn't a scheme buster on this roster.....Get one or draft a true athletic TE that can bust a defensive scheme like Gronkowski or Jimmy Graham can....Miller is good but not that type of TE....I know I'll continue to be one of the few on that point but its true....I like Miller but he isn't a special player.....

BlacknGold Bleeder
01-10-2012, 06:45 PM
Health played the biggest factor in the team being one and done....But I didn't sense the type of team unity like in years past when this team made Super Bowl runs.....

Going forward this team must invest in the offensive line further....Ben actually needs legit pass protection for once......

While everybody loves our WR core and they're good but there isn't a scheme buster on this roster.....Get one or draft a true athletic TE that can bust a defensive scheme like Gronkowski or Jimmy Graham can....Miller is good but not that type of TE....I know I'll continue to be one of the few on that point but its true....I like Miller but he isn't a special player.....

Agree with most everything said here ,but if given a chance I believe Heath could show more...

Steelers_All_Day_43
01-10-2012, 07:03 PM
Really? Were bringing up commercials and tv shows now? This is a new time, everyone these days are doing commercials and other off the field stuff.

Black@Gold Forever32
01-10-2012, 07:09 PM
Agree with most everything said here ,but if given a chance I believe Heath could show more...

I disagree....I like Miller but he will never be a TE that can dictate coverage like Rob Gronkowski....The Steelers will never do it but it was brilliant when New England drafted two young TE's like Gronk and Aaron Hernandez in the 2nd round of the 2010 draft.......Now I do think pair Miller with a TE like that would do wonders for the Steelers offense.....Really its not a knock on Miller its not his fault he wasn't blessed with freak of nature type athletic ability......Look at Jimmy Graham from the Saints as well......Graham used to be a power forward......Those TE's are just athletic freaks.....The Steelers need one or a WR like that....

I do like Brown, Sanders, Wallace but none of those guys can dictate coverage like a Calvin Johnson, Andre Johnson, Larry Fitz, and even a Jordy Nelson.....Wallace can with his speed but teams have caught on to Wallace and learned how to defense against his speed but some of this is on Wallace as well since he isn't a physical WR and won't fight for the ball.....

If the Steelers don't add a TE or WR that bust schemes then the offensive line must be upgraded where Ben can pick a part a defense with the weapons he does have.....Ben can be one of the best pocket QB's in the NFL if he has the time in the pocket.........

Destossel
01-10-2012, 07:11 PM
Who are the Steelers team leaders though ? Big Ben was not a locker room favorite just a few seasons ago. Ward ? Not now.....role is dimished if not gone.

You see my point ? I dont feel that this team has great on the field leaders. Joey Porter used to keep his unit pumped up. He was the mouthpiece of Cower's defense. Undisputed leader. Ray Lewis always has the Ravens pumped up. Always. He gets those players motivated.

The Steelers seemed flat to me last year and this year was more of the same. I saw little fire in either squad wgich really underwent little personell change. Cowher was hands on, in your face coach. He inspired. He chewed Willie Colon out in Cincinatti in his last game as the coach and it was brutal. Tomlin is a great coach but he does not bring any passion to this team that this fan can see. Of course Im not in the locker room either....

coldrolled
01-10-2012, 07:11 PM
Dont resign Arians... Move forward.

Retire a few old players and move forward.

This team needs get younger and faster...

Draft Well. Fix a few holes in FA for once.... We win...

RIVERS OF STEEL
01-10-2012, 07:14 PM
This team needs a real leader and real boss. Tomlin ain't the boss. I wish it weren't so. But, it is.

StillersSound
01-10-2012, 07:50 PM
Really? Were bringing up commercials and tv shows now? This is a new time, everyone these days are doing commercials and other off the field stuff.

Yes. Victor Cruz turned down dancing with the stars because it took 18 weeks of practice. Maybe Hines wouldn't be in the situation if he spent that time more wisely, who knows definitely wouldn't have hurt passing on that stupid show.

Sometimes I wonder if Troy has too much on his plate too. I wonder if he even works-out, rehabs, or goes to practice anymore. It didn't show in his play this year.

elephantman
01-10-2012, 09:20 PM
This isn't the type of team or football that the Steelers have pride themselves on or we grew up loving.

- Polamalu in every shampoo commercial

- Ward going Hollywood; dancing like a star, movies, off the field issues.

- Pouncey tweeting during a playoff game.

- Players tweeting right after the game and partying days after.

- Players more worried about getting their t-shirts out then just losing a playoff game.

- Ward's smile disappearing when he isn't on the field and Cotchery is doing well.

- Polamlau casually jogging back on a gw touchdown in the playoffs.

- Players disrespecting fans that have probably been fans of the team longer then they have played for them or even played football for that matter.

Where did it all go wrong? Personally, I'm looking at the timeline of events and I think it's Tomlin. He's a great coach and he gets them motivated to play but he may be too much of a players coach and too easy on them. He rather be a friend then coach and sometimes that works and players rather play for those type of coaches. But when the pressure is on and things aren't going their way and something has to be said to get them going and it isn't they lose playoff games to the Broncos or Super Bowls to the Packers.


^How did you write all this and not mention Bens off field antics 2009/2010 and santonio Holmes 'wake and bake' tweet last yr...those are on tomlins watch

this is surprising to me as Tomlin seems less a players coach than Cowher...matter of fact, thats a fact..., no ??

LatrobePA
01-10-2012, 09:27 PM
I have no problems with them except Hines DWTS killed me, I was disgusted!

Ben and his new stupid looking hats kinda rubs me a little wrong other than that I'm fine!

StillersSound
01-11-2012, 11:18 AM
^How did you write all this and not mention Bens off field antics 2009/2010 and santonio Holmes 'wake and bake' tweet last yr...those are on tomlins watch

this is surprising to me as Tomlin seems less a players coach than Cowher...matter of fact, thats a fact..., no ??

I've erased that from my memory :lol: If you messed up you didn't want to go back to the sidelines because the chin would grab you by your facemask and spit in your face so I would say no :lol: Tomlin shows little to no emotion and I hate it.

connecticutsteel
01-11-2012, 12:28 PM
Health played the biggest factor in the team being one and done....But I didn't sense the type of team unity like in years past when this team made Super Bowl runs.....

Going forward this team must invest in the offensive line further....Ben actually needs legit pass protection for once......

While everybody loves our WR core and they're good but there isn't a scheme buster on this roster.....Get one or draft a true athletic TE that can bust a defensive scheme like Gronkowski or Jimmy Graham can....Miller is good but not that type of TE....I know I'll continue to be one of the few on that point but its true....I like Miller but he isn't a special player.....

I disagree if used properly Wes Saunders is a scheme buster our talent level at tight end is similar to the patriots forget johnson Miller/Saunders is a monster Saunders played WR in college

Santonio's behavior isn't on Tomlin it's on Santonio

--- Added 1/11/2012 at 10:28 AM ---


Yes. Victor Cruz turned down dancing with the stars because it took 18 weeks of practice. Maybe Hines wouldn't be in the situation if he spent that time more wisely, who knows definitely wouldn't have hurt passing on that stupid show.

Sometimes I wonder if Troy has too much on his plate too. I wonder if he even works-out, rehabs, or goes to practice anymore. It didn't show in his play this year.

People think that players like troy can play the same way every year the reality is THEY ALL GET OLD RAY LEWIS HASN'T BEEN RAY LEWIS FOR 5 SEASONS HINES AND TROY,AARON SMITH ,HAMP FARRIOR HAVE BEEN DROPPING FAST OVER THE LAST 2 YEARS IT'S PART OF THE GAME

LatrobePA
01-11-2012, 12:35 PM
WTF??

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTyEFsC6oyMZT96Ju9MSHsvH9HQR0sB7 WDdOxILAHBv3MXD8Ceg

StillersSound
01-11-2012, 01:27 PM
People think that players like troy can play the same way every year the reality is THEY ALL GET OLD RAY LEWIS HASN'T BEEN RAY LEWIS FOR 5 SEASONS HINES AND TROY,AARON SMITH ,HAMP FARRIOR HAVE BEEN DROPPING FAST OVER THE LAST 2 YEARS IT'S PART OF THE GAME

I understand players fall off but I was expecting big things after he got his contract. And he played great last year until his injury. But he was always a step behind this year and he lost his hands :( maybe all the concussions, who knows.


WTF??

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTyEFsC6oyMZT96Ju9MSHsvH9HQR0sB7 WDdOxILAHBv3MXD8Ceg

:lol:

Promoting that new Sherlock Holmes 2.

RIVERS OF STEEL
01-11-2012, 02:15 PM
Ben ain't really bin right since he clocked his head in the big MC wreck. IMO.

MDSteel15
01-11-2012, 02:20 PM
Some of its got to go on Tomlin. Also some of its got to go on the leaders of this team

1.Troy
2.Ben
3.Harrison
4.Farrior
5.Ward.

Im still tryting to figure out who the leader of the WR's is gonna be if ward decides to go elsewhere or retire. Wallace is to into himself being good, I think Brown can be the guy but it will only be his 3rd season. Cotchery maybe. Idk what it is but this team just didnt seem right this year like maybe they thought theyd walk into the playoffs after seeing the schedule.

Age and experience is only part of being a leader! His confidence and ability to communicate with the others is what will make him a leader!

SteelDad
01-12-2012, 03:28 PM
Interesting discussion... I'll probably get killed for this but the type of leader I think this team needs is a Brady-type. The guy plays with fire. He gets in people's faces and gets them going. I like Ben a lot, but sometimes with him it's just like "awwww shucks, we'll get'em next time."

As far as off-field activities, it's become a new generation and as much as I don't like it, I've accepted it. Part of being in the game is marketing and selling one's self now. The stuff Pouncey and Redman were doing is a little over the top but I guess I'll take that versus being caught with the mary jane or being accused of sexual assault.

Hey, at least we aren't the Jets or Cowboys.

steelchamp204
01-12-2012, 04:21 PM
I def agree with the Brady type leadership but Ben has his own way of doing it(which I dont really see as aggressive when needed to be). I just dont like how Wallace has been talking himself up. Yea, hes a darn good receiver but he comes off to cocky. I dont really like the "young money" name either for the receivers. Just doesnt seem something that would be giving to a Pittsburgh football team. Timmons saying hes gonna have a breakout year and get 10 sacks when he wasnt even close to it. I think he regressed this season alot, but I think he can bounce back. This team I dont think has a true leader in the coaching staff and on the field. Which is kinda scary.