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BlitzburghRockCity
12-06-2011, 09:45 AM
If there was ever a trap game for the Steelers in 2011, this is the one. Now, granted the Steelers have no business looking past any team in the NFL this year regardless of their record. A 9-3 record is something to be proud of but now is the time to get on and stay on a roll. That means you take care of business every week regardless of the opponent. Mike Tomlin said in his weekly press conference that the Steelers are looking only at the Browns and know full well what Josh Cribbs and that team is capable of from past experience.

As you'll see below, the Steelers have owned the rivalry in recent years but we need only look back to 2009 to see what the Browns are capable of when it comes to AFC North matchups.

However we know how this team can play down to their competition. Couple that with the fact that the 49ers game is on the horizon, arguably the biggest game left on the schedule. It's only human nature for a team to look at the Browns record and think this is going to be a win right out of the gate. You have to think that the coaches are preparing the team this week without overdoing it only 4 days rest, and the guys are in the right mindset of taking care of business. The Steelers play these divisional teams twice a year, every year so you have to wonder why anyone would even consider looking at the Browns as an easy win just based on their record. These games are usually pretty close.

Some interesting stats on this game:

-The Steelers lead the series overall: 62-56.
-Since the Browns return to the NFL in 1999, they have only beaten the Steelers 4 times.
-Cleveland has not swept the Steelers since 1988.
-Since 1988 the Steelers have swept the Browns 10 times. (Keep in mind during that time the Browns were not in the league for 3 years).



Despite Pittsburgh's domination of the Browns since their return to the league, there are plenty of indications that this rivalry is still one of the NFL's best:

In a 2002 Wild Card playoff game at Heinz Field, it seemed the Browns were about to avenge their former playoff loss to the Steelers when they held a two-possession lead with five minutes remaining in the fourth quarter. But the Steelers staged perhaps the greatest postseason comeback in their history to take the lead with under a minute to go and end the new Browns' first postseason appearance.
In 2004, Steelers LB Joey Porter and Browns RB William Green couldn't wait for the game to start— both players were ejected for a pregame fistfight while the teams were warming up.
In the fourth quarter of a 41-0 mauling of the Browns in 2005, Steelers LB James Harrison stopped an unruly spectator who had run onto the field, body-slamming the brown-and-orange-clad fan to the ground in a moment that seemed to sum up the sort of day the Browns were having.
In 2009, a 1-11 Browns team shocked the Steelers with a 13-6 win that ended Pittsburgh's 12-game winning streak against their historic rival. The loss also ended any realistic chance of the defending Super Bowl champions returning to the playoffs.

From AFC-North.com (http://www.afc-north.com/rivalry/clepit.html)

steelersgal86
12-06-2011, 10:00 AM
I would love to see a blow out...but dont see that happening...honestly..the browns defense has looked pretty good...so we need to bring it all...

:gs:

LatrobePA
12-06-2011, 10:21 AM
Browns defense against the pass is right up there, NOW their run defense is at the bottom..

BlitzburghRockCity
12-06-2011, 10:30 AM
They gave up 200+ yds to Ray Rice this past weekend, it's clear if you want to beat the Bengals you run the ball and use the short passing game.

So help me if the Steelers start throwing down field all day and don't use a similar strategy that they used against the Patriots, I might just off a bridge!

LatrobePA
12-06-2011, 10:39 AM
So help me if the Steelers start throwing down field all day and don't use a similar strategy that they used against the Patriots, I might just off a bridge!

LOL, you nailed it! BA BALL at it's finest!

coldrolled
12-06-2011, 10:49 AM
In a 2002 Wild Card playoff game at Heinz Field, it seemed the Browns were about to avenge their former playoff loss to the Steelers when they held a two-possession lead with five minutes remaining in the fourth quarter. But the Steelers staged perhaps the greatest postseason comeback in their history to take the lead with under a minute to go and end the new Browns' first postseason appearance.


A Classic..... Who blew this game? The Browns OC. Who was he?

LatrobePA
12-06-2011, 10:53 AM
A Classic..... Who blew this game? The Browns OC. Who was he?

LOL I remember watching that game, weren't they still airing it out with a huge lead?

Mike Tomlin
12-06-2011, 11:02 AM
LOL, you nailed it! BA BALL at it's finest!

I call it what it is Big Ben ball. When we play less than good teams Ben tries to have career days and just throw the long ball. Those same underneath and short routes are being run Ben just feels they should go for the gusto on damn near every play. BA does not choose who Ben throws the ball to when the play starts.

BlitzburghRockCity
12-06-2011, 12:26 PM
We always hear teams talk about not looking past an opponent just because of their record. The Steelers usually say the right thing but making sure they do the right thing is not always the case in games like this. Hopefully they come out with the same fire and intensity as last week and put this one away.


Mike Tomlin amused many at his news conference while talking about Cleveland's Joshua Cribbs Monday.

"We cannot let Josh Cribbs do what he's done to us time and time again in the past. We've been dead Indians in his cowboy movie enough," Tomlin said in a not-quite-PC comment because the coach apparently wasn't talking about the Cleveland Indians.
No, Tomlin meant the Steelers because they have been victims of Cribbs through the years, mostly as a return man. The problem for the Cleveland Browns is that has not been enough. The Steelers have beaten the Browns 14 of the past 15 times they've played, 20 of the past 22.

Thursday, they play again and there is no evidence the Browns can become the cowboys at Heinz Field, no matter how hard Mike Tomlin tried to come to their defense. The Browns are 4-8 (1-4 on the road) after their 24-10 whipping Sunday in Baltimore in which the Ravens ran over them the way the Indians ran over Custer, rushing for 290 yards, 204 by Ray Rice.

To suggest this is a team that might come to Heinz Field on a short week and pull the kind of upset they did in 2009 in Cleveland is to say the Steelers coach will do anything to keep his team's eye on the prize.

Thus, the question: Might the Steelers take the Browns lightly or even look past them to their weekend off considering they've triumphed 14 times in the past 15 against them?

"If we would have played them 14 or 15 times this year, then yes," Tomlin said. "But the team we are assembling and the team they are assembling are different than some of the teams that have taken part in that history.

"We tend to live in the now. We are looking at what they are capable of this year compared to what we've done and what we're capable of this year. We are probably not going to have a level of comfort when looking at it from that perspective."

From the PG (http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/11340/1194829-66.stm#ixzz1flx7XsvV)

HUNT4SEVEN
12-06-2011, 01:49 PM
I believe our Boys understand what's at stake, And the Browns suck at run defense so we should take advantage of that by running Mendy and Redman down there throats, but with BA u never know, so it wouldn't surprise me if we open up with 5 wide:lol: We play our best ball this time of year though, so i expect us to put a beat down on the Clowns:yesnod:

Goodfrom55
12-06-2011, 01:56 PM
Nothing has been clinched so I can't see them looking past this game; with an AFC North rival. Difference between winning and losing for the Steelers is a potentiallt #1 or 2 seed vs a 5 or 6 seed. There is much to play for and they will handle their business.

PITTxPRIDE
12-06-2011, 02:29 PM
Bottom line. play the browns like they are the packers and we will be fine. im looking forward to seeing Rashard play like the browns owe him child support :imho:

Black@Gold Forever32
12-06-2011, 06:28 PM
The Browns run defense sucks, Colt McCoy is a bum and really doesn't have the arm to make the throws when the weather starts to turn for the worse, the Browns skill positions players are also average at best.....The Steelers will win in a blow out.....I would expect another 30+ points scored......38-10 Steelers......

Clevelandsux
12-06-2011, 08:15 PM
The Browns will stay in this game as long as the Steelers let them. We had to beat them the final game last year. And did easily 41-9. There is no reason the Steelers shouldn't do the same thing this week.

--- Added 12/6/2011 at 06:15 PM ---


In a 2002 Wild Card playoff game at Heinz Field, it seemed the Browns were about to avenge their former playoff loss to the Steelers when they held a two-possession lead with five minutes remaining in the fourth quarter. But the Steelers staged perhaps the greatest postseason comeback in their history to take the lead with under a minute to go and end the new Browns' first postseason appearance.


A Classic..... Who blew this game? The Browns OC. Who was he?

bruce arians. they couldn't run the ball that day either.

Black@Gold Forever32
12-06-2011, 10:30 PM
Again people blaming BA when his players failed to execute.....Anybody care to remember Dennis Northcut dropped a ball on third down to clinch the game?....Northcut's drop allowed the Steelers to get the ball back and drive for the go ahead TD......BA isn't Bill Walsh when it comes offensive football and he has many faults.....But so many times to his players have failed to execute even dating back to his days as the Browns OC....I swear get a new horse to beat on already....lol

CowherPower
12-07-2011, 01:01 AM
I agree with ClevelandSux, the Browns will be a threat in this game only if the Steelers allow them too. The few playmakers that the Browns have this year that are actually doing something to help the team consistently are not, or should I say, should not be enough to cause Pittsburgh an issue.

That being said, we've seen this time and time again, for once let's put these AFC North games out of reach when we're supposed too.

Real Deal Steel
12-07-2011, 02:14 AM
I want to see the running game featured in this game. Then the occasional play action pass will be deadly. If we do that, we win this game 24-6.

Nolrog
12-07-2011, 07:37 PM
This sure could be a trap game. We need to make sure it isn't and then enjoy a few days off before getting ready for the 9ers.

CowherPower
12-07-2011, 10:21 PM
Steelers / Browns may not be what it used too when you look at the records recently but when both teams step on the field it all comes back. The Browns hate losing to the Steelers and they won't give up.