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Real Deal Steel
11-27-2011, 10:52 PM
I'm watching him tonite against the Chiefs and this guy runs different from week to week. One week he hits the hole, the next week he's sitting back there dancing. I'm just not sold on this guy. His fumbling in big games....plus what we saw from Dwyer a few weeks ago really makes me think we need to open up competition next year for that position.

Give me your thoughts.

SteelJunkie
11-27-2011, 11:36 PM
Mendenhall is still our best back. Each 1 of our backs has his role. To much Moore though, I think Redman needs to be in there on 3rd.

Stairwayto7
11-27-2011, 11:41 PM
Mendenhal is over rated. If he ran hard every play and didnt dance so much he would be descent, but as it stands he is average. I say trade him in the off season if you can get a second round pick for him

Moondog
11-27-2011, 11:44 PM
He does seem to be real up and down when it comes to effort.

BlitzburghRockCity
11-27-2011, 11:51 PM
I can't complain about Mendy tonight overall, he was running hard and breaking tackles. He had a 16 yd scamper tonight as well. The Steelers line just could not handle the Chiefs pass rush and front 7 overall.

Stairwayto7
11-27-2011, 11:54 PM
As much as I hate hate him at times he should have been in when Moore fumbled

SnakeEyes43
11-27-2011, 11:59 PM
He fought hard tonight, I give him his props. The line looked like sh*t.

I also agree that there was too much Moore tonight and not enough Redman.

Iron Paul
11-28-2011, 12:08 AM
I'm watching him tonite against the Chiefs and this guy runs different from week to week. One week he hits the hole, the next week he's sitting back there dancing. I'm just not sold on this guy. His fumbling in big games....plus what we saw from Dwyer a few weeks ago really makes me think we need to open up competition next year for that position.

Give me your thoughts.
I agree completely. Too much dancing around looking for a hole. He needs to bust through like other running backs, e.g., Ray Rice.

coldrolled
11-28-2011, 12:11 AM
64 and 85 are not the answer to help mendenhall at all.

UKSTEELER
11-28-2011, 06:09 AM
on one play late on, he was stonewalled at the LOS and in trying to eek out something was still carrying the ball loosely with one hand in his usual out-stretched arm fashion, very foolish.

I'm not sold on him either, he's just okay in my eyes, he's no top tier back nor will he ever be.

Troyisabeast_43
11-28-2011, 07:29 AM
I think Dwyer needs to be dressing more and given more of an opportunity over a guy like Mewelde Moore at this point and time. Tomlin has already reduced the role of older guys like Hines and Hoke and I think it's about time he does the same thing with Moore in favor of Dwyer...

BlitzburghRockCity
11-28-2011, 08:33 AM
I think the problem with dressing Dwyer is that he is along the same lines as Redman. A north and south, tough, between the tackles type of guy. They dress Moore because he's a good receiver out of the backfield and has a knack for being effective on 3rd down.

I wouldn't be opposed to dressing Dwyer more, I like how he plays. Memo though is generally pretty effective still.

connecticutsteel
11-28-2011, 11:33 AM
I agree completely. Too much dancing around looking for a hole. He needs to bust through like other running backs, e.g., Ray Rice.

this makes no sense rice and mendy are different styles I'd take mendy over 85% of the backs in the league . We won the game and we are whining what's up with that?

K Train
11-28-2011, 11:35 AM
i thought he played well considering when pouncey is out the line is in shambles

steelchamp204
11-28-2011, 11:41 AM
I think the problem with dressing Dwyer is that he is along the same lines as Redman. A north and south, tough, between the tackles type of guy. They dress Moore because he's a good receiver out of the backfield and has a knack for being effective on 3rd down.

I wouldn't be opposed to dressing Dwyer more, I like how he plays. Memo though is generally pretty effective still.

IMHO I would take redman out of the backfield more than Mendy catching balls. I dont think Redman gets enough credit for caching the ball and going wth it. Dress Dwyer but give him the reps of Redman and boosts Redmans reps to about 5 more snaps a game to 10.

BlitzburghRockCity
11-28-2011, 12:11 PM
The problem with Mendenhall, and we've said it before if we've said a thousand times. He runs upright and too often and doesn't finish off his runs consistently.

Sometimes like last night, he runs like a bull and is tough to bring down and then other times, like last night again, he gets hit and goes down. You want to see him lower his head and fall forward, taking on the defender rather than just folding up or worse stiffening up and then going down. It's that inconsistent play that drives me nuts every week.

You would think after all this time the coaches would be able to teach him how to finish off his runs consistently. Either they are and he just doesn't do it, or they aren't coaching it. I suspect, and common sense tells you, it's the former though.

igor0190
11-28-2011, 12:24 PM
Mendenhall has great balance too... If he learned to put his head down and initiate contact more often he would be bouncing off guys, keeping his feet, and breaking big runs much more consistently.

He's been around long enough, he's probably never going to change. He just doesn't run like "Steeler fans" want to see... Could you imagine him with a Marion Barber type of attitude towards contact? Wow, he could be special... but then he also might be hurt a lot more.

harpo
11-28-2011, 03:39 PM
I witnessed one play last night that sums up Mendenhall. I think it was when they tied the game at 3-3. Ben threw a pass to him out of the backfield towards the left sideline. He caught it and was 1-on-1 with a DB (can't recall who it was). Instead of at least trying to run over the DB, he shied away from contact and went down to the ground.

It's plays like that which makes me question his toughness. As i've said before, i'm sure he's a great guy and all, but I just don't like him as a RB.

Goodfrom55
11-28-2011, 05:48 PM
I'm not a Mendenhall homer, but I will say that I will not pass judgement on this guy until he get s 2 or 3 games of 25-30 carries, and then I will eveluate his production. He got 17 carries last night, and averages 13 carries per game this season. He has fumbled once this year, and he is not Earl Campbell so he won't run over a lot of people.

He is a lot better than Redman and Dwyer; but it is hard to demonstrare this when he only gets 13 to 17 carries per game. KC's Front 7 did a hell of a job last night. Pouncey had the trots, Legs has to slide over to center and Kemo was back at LG. Not a formidable line by any stretch. If Mendy gets 25 carries vs the Rams and only has 55 yards, then I will buy what you're selling. Until then, Mendy is my guy to carry the rock.

Clevelandsux
11-28-2011, 07:02 PM
I can't stand him. He only has 550 yards rushing this year? Tired of people making excuses for him.

Goodfrom55
11-28-2011, 07:31 PM
this makes no sense rice and mendy are different styles I'd take mendy over 85% of the backs in the league . We won the game and we are whining what's up with that?

Not to mention, Ray Rice runs behind a fullback, as does Adrian Peterson, Arian Foster, Chris Johnson, Frank Gore, Etc.

FB might be an antiquated position in a passing style offense, but it sure is a valuable commodity in a running game. Some people (Arians) have to get that through their thick head and using a TE as a FB is not a viable solution.

CowherPower
11-28-2011, 10:59 PM
Bruce Arians hates fullbacks, once he became OC he was hell bent on getting rid of the full time traditional blocker. I shutter to think how much better the Steeler running game would be if they had a real full back there to help lead block especially for guys like Mendenhall who really need a great offensive line to be at their peak.

Goodfrom55
11-28-2011, 11:18 PM
As a result of the Steelers lack of commitment to the running game, the defenses are starting to show signs of no longer respecting the play action fake in the passing game.

CowherPower
11-29-2011, 04:45 PM
The play action worked pretty well on Sunday night, but that could be simply because the Chiefs defense was playing so aggressively. I noticed several times that Ben faked the handoff and the entire Chiefs line bit on it and he was able to look down field. It was one of the few times he had a couple seconds to actually survey the field.

In general though I would agree that teams are going to start not respecting the run as much which is why it's so important to atleast try and do it. If you are going to try though to run it, settle on someone and just do it already. Easier said than done with the offensive line being in flux again last Sunday. It's a tough thing I know but knowing the Steelers they will always try to run the ball.

Goodfrom55
11-29-2011, 05:21 PM
It was a different look the Steelers faced on Sunday. For the 1st time all year, the Chiefs did to the Steelers what the Steelers did to the Pats- played physical man coverage all night and it grossly upset the timing and execution of the passing game.

K Train
11-29-2011, 05:25 PM
It was a different look the Steelers faced on Sunday. For the 1st time all year, the Chiefs did to the Steelers what the Steelers did to the Pats- played physical man coverage all night and it grossly upset the timing and execution of the passing game.

this.

brandon flowers is a very physical corner and he showed wallace that

Clevelandsux
11-29-2011, 06:21 PM
Mendenhall is starting to remind me more of another first round bust, Tim Worley.

SteelCityVoice
11-29-2011, 07:55 PM
I'd really like to see Mendenhall have a chance to run behind a truly legit O-Line. Pittsburgh hasn't had one in his entire time here.

CowherPower
11-30-2011, 09:28 PM
If they do try to establish the run this weekend, and it's a safe bet that they will, the Bengals have a solid run defense so it won't be easy for Rashard to get going. The AFC North is not the ideal situation for running backs to have a lot of success against their rivals.

Goodfrom55
11-30-2011, 09:38 PM
Even if he isn;'t breaking off big runs, and they hold him to 3-5 yards per carry, that is fine. It will wear down the defense and eat up clock AND force the Bengals to respect the play action fake.

Steelers need to be patient in the run game. . .

Real Deal Steel
12-03-2011, 02:05 PM
I think Dwyer needs to be dressing more and given more of an opportunity over a guy like Mewelde Moore at this point and time. Tomlin has already reduced the role of older guys like Hines and Hoke and I think it's about time he does the same thing with Moore in favor of Dwyer...

Dwyer has a geat that Moore and Mendy don't have. Dwyer can get to the outside better then Mendy and he hits the hole and doesn't dance. I think Dwyer is better then Mendy. Dwyer just needs the reps and opportunity.

--- Added 12/3/2011 at 01:05 PM ---

I do think that a fullback is badly needed to help the running game.