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BlitzburghRockCity
01-17-2007, 08:25 AM
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/07017/754295-66.stm


Tony Dungy learned his craft playing for the Steelers in the 1970s and as the NFL's youngest defensive coordinator in the 1980s. What developed from that was the famed Tampa Bay Cover-2 defense, which right now has helped Dungy's Indianapolis Colts reach the AFC championship game.

Yesterday, Steelers officials interviewed a devotee of that defense who possibly could be their next head coach. Mike Tomlin learned it at the knee of Dungy, who learned it at the knee of Chuck Noll and his defensive staff.

"If you listen to coach Dungy, he'll remind you of that," Tomlin said after he finished his second interview with the Steelers, which lasted about 3 1/2 hours and stretched into the early evening. "A lot of people refer to it as Tampa 2, and he's always one to cite his sources. He reminds you of that."

Tomlin was the first of three finalists interviewed for the second time. Next up: Russ Grimm, the Steelers' assistant head coach and offensive line coach. He will have his second interview today. Chicago Bears defensive coordinator Ron Rivera, the other finalist, cannot be interviewed again until his team's season ends, either Sunday or in the Super Bowl Feb. 4.

Wholesale changes could be made to a team 11 months removed from a Super Bowl championship if Tomlin is hired as its head coach.

Tomlin has coached the 4-3 defense in Minnesota, relying heavily on that Cover-2 philosophy he learned under Dungy at Tampa Bay. The Steelers have run the 3-4 defense since 1983, when Chuck Noll abandoned the four-man front that became famous as the Steel Curtain in the 1970s.

Bill Cowher kept the 3-4, although in a different form, after he was hired as coach in 1992.

"I think it would be premature for me to comment specifically on personnel or personnel issues. I'd like to get the job first," Tomlin said.

But he did say he's not tied to one defense, that he prefers to put the players in whatever system he feels best suits them.

"I'm a fundamentalist as opposed to scheme. I think football is a tough-man's game, it's an attrition game. You win by stopping the run and being able to run the ball effectively-- and doing the things winners do, being a detailed-oriented football team, playing with great passion and executing."

It's unknown what would become of someone such as defensive coordinator Dick LeBeau, the Steelers' zone-blitz impresario, under a Tomlin regime.

All the Steelers' assistant coaches are under contract, and many of them likely would remain in place if Grimm were hired. Tomlin, though, might want to bring his own coaches with him.

This article refers to some of the same ones that Deisel posted up, but it shows some more points as well.

He seems open to alot of ideas but he also seems pretty set in his ways in certain things if you ask me. He's a product of Dungy who's ran the same defense in Tampa that he runs in Indy now. The apple doesnt fall far from the tree.

I may be the only one on here that worries about a coach from the outside coming in and making a bunch of changes to the defense that don't need changed. Im not worried so much about the offense because he seems to be in the same realm that we are in that thinking; you run the ball first and that's what we do so thats cool.

Having a defensive coach come in here just begs for trouble if you ask me because our defense doesn't need fixed, we just need our players to play better which is what Dan Rooney referred too after the Ratbird game in December. Im not opposed to him being hired, but it does concern me some that we could end up rebuilding after this is all said and done and that would just flat out suck.

DIESELMAN
01-17-2007, 09:21 AM
I may be the only one on here that worries about a coach from the outside coming in and making a bunch of changes to the defense that don't need changed.

You're not the only one worried about someone changing our D bro. We are setup for the 3-4 with personel. Theres not that much success in changing over in the first few years. The Brownies converted over from a 4-3 two years ago(granted it would help if they knew what the hell they were doing...ever) and still haven't got the hang of it. The Steelers have always been known for their bonecrunching D especially in the 3-4. If it ain't broke don't fix it!!!

BlitzburghRockCity
01-17-2007, 10:27 AM
Just to piggy back on our thoughts, I would hope if tomlin does get the gig that he realizes what this team is built for and what we've had success with. We've built this defense through the draft over the years to be what it is now and when it's firing on all cylinders it's nearly flawless. The players we have can do the job, they did it in 2005, and they didnt suddenly get worse in 2006, we just had a bad year with injuries and our secondary not playing up to par but overall I don't want us going to a 4-3, we are the 3-4 and we kick *** at it.

I don't know, just something about Tomlin worries me alot more than Grimm, the same could probably be said for Rivera if we ever get a 2nd interview with him.

House of Steel
01-17-2007, 10:40 AM
If Tomlin gets hired and changes that defense around, I am going to be mighty pissed. You can't come from the outside and change a system that has been the definition of the Steelers from the start. YOU CAN'T TAKE AWAY THE BLITZBURGH DEFENSIVE STYLE. LeBeau would be shocked if this was to happen. I feel if someone tampers with this team, I am never going to feel the same ever again cause then only then will I have some hard feelings for the organization and the Rooneys for hiring such a damn fool.

AZ_Steeler
01-17-2007, 11:33 AM
If it ain't broke don't try and fix it!!!! Yeah the secondary was a little weak last year but this coming year they should be flat out awesome! This is kind of arrogant of Tomlin to be speaking of this stuff like he already has the job :smh: He just fell to the bottom of my list!

TampaSteelGirl
01-17-2007, 01:54 PM
All of this makes me extremely nervous. I hate to see someone coming in and messing everything up..We are getting rookies where we want them, defense looks great..it seems Tomlin wants to come in a overhaul! Btw, who is the other candidate who can't interview until SB is over? I'm curious!

Black@Gold Forever32
01-17-2007, 02:10 PM
Don't you think Tomlin is smart enough to know the Steelers are built for the 3-4? I think he does. Maybe he just wants to put alittle of the cover2 mixed in with our 3-4/Blitzburgh.

Forged in Steel
01-17-2007, 02:22 PM
Major changes like getting rid of the gay futura font numbers, getting block numbers back, getting a yellow jersey, and getting black pants?

SteelersfaninPhilly
01-17-2007, 03:20 PM
The Rooneys took Tomlin to the pens game last night.

BlitzburghRockCity
01-17-2007, 03:36 PM
They usually do take 2nd interview'd coaches out to some event.

Koopa
01-17-2007, 04:50 PM
If Tomlin gets hired and changes that defense around, I am going to be mighty pissed. You can't come from the outside and change a system that has been the definition of the Steelers from the start. YOU CAN'T TAKE AWAY THE BLITZBURGH DEFENSIVE STYLE. LeBeau would be shocked if this was to happen. I feel if someone tampers with this team, I am never going to feel the same ever again cause then only then will I have some hard feelings for the organization and the Rooneys for hiring such a damn fool.

how has it been the definition from the start, when he learned the cover 2 from dungy who learned from chuck noll


ppl stop worrying so damn much......for all we know rivera would do the exact same, hell grimm might even do it, we don't know yet


also, tomlin or rivera ain't dumbasses they ain't gonna come in and just change everything and step on ppls toes, they will work with our strengths and then slowly change it up to what they believe is better, but that won't be right away cause we don't have the right kind of players yet.........

Koopa
01-17-2007, 04:52 PM
If it ain't broke don't try and fix it!!!! Yeah the secondary was a little weak last year but this coming year they should be flat out awesome! This is kind of arrogant of Tomlin to be speaking of this stuff like he already has the job :smh: He just fell to the bottom of my list!



you do know media ppl were asking him the questions right???? what do you want him to say, shut the **** up and stop asking me those ****ing questiosn *** whip, i ain't answering god damn thing you **** *** bitch dick sucking *** licker?????? lol

Koopa
01-17-2007, 04:54 PM
Don't you think Tomlin is smart enough to know the Steelers are built for the 3-4? I think he does. Maybe he just wants to put alittle of the cover2 mixed in with our 3-4/Blitzburgh.

why are you the only one with some damn sense lol........everyone is pratically shitting their pants......and you are smart enough to realize that they ain't just gonna come in and **** **** up........

+1:bigthumb: lol

TEEMONT
01-17-2007, 07:30 PM
I am not so sure we wouldn't be able to make a cover 2 work. I don't know much about the scheme, but we could make a 4-3 type thing work I would imagine. We have the personel, IMO, all we really need would be a GOOD 3rd DT, I think Foote and Farrior would be monsters in the Middle, or for that matter, Farrior could go back to the outside. Either way, our D is deep enough to hndle a swtich.

DIESELMAN
01-17-2007, 07:59 PM
This is what I know of the cover2, somebody correct me if I'm wrong. The front four give you all the pressure on the QB, you got 3 LB's who had better be good tacklers, then you got your secondary who basically play zone coverage. Its a pretty simple defense that relies on speed and being aggressive. On running plays the D plays a single gap defense where everybody has their assigned gaps, speed and being a good tackler is essential. On passing downs the safeties and MLB drop into deep coverage, the CB's cover the flats and the OLB's have the box and split the middle. Dungy had success with the Tampa2 which is a spinoff from the cover2. The key to running a cover2 is good tackling, speed and aggressive attitudes.


Originally Posted by Black@Gold Forever32
Don't you think Tomlin is smart enough to know the Steelers are built for the 3-4? I think he does. Maybe he just wants to put alittle of the cover2 mixed in with our 3-4/Blitzburgh.I was thinking the same thing but chose to vent instead lol. If this guy is smart why not use the personel that we have and make up a defense no ones seen before, tweak it to fit our strengths. I bet there is a part of LeBeaus brain that hasn't even been tapped yet.

Black@Gold Forever32
01-17-2007, 08:04 PM
You're right on about the cover2. That was a nice post.

I could see Tomlin switching the D. I just think he probally wants to win right away and the best way to that is letting your players play to their strengths. Which he basically said in his interview.

DIESELMAN
01-17-2007, 08:14 PM
You're right on about the cover2. That was a nice post.

I could see Tomlin switching the D. I just think he probally wants to win right away and the best way to that is letting your players play to their strengths. Which he basically said in his interview.

Thanx bro......He'll come in and get a feel for everybody and make his own judgements on everybody strengths and weaknesses. I don't see a major overhaul coming but like you said earlier he could mix his cover2 schemes in with the 3-4. No matter what whoever lands the job it will be their team and their decisions to make all we can do is......Roll with it!!!

SteelersWoman
01-17-2007, 11:54 PM
... Btw, who is the other candidate who can't interview until SB is over? I'm curious!

It's Ron Rivera from the Bears TSG.

BBG7
01-18-2007, 09:26 AM
I have to agree with Koopa. No one is going to come in and turn this team over. They are going to want sucess from the start and coming in and changing everything won't equal the success they will want. You know they know about what the Steelers are good at (and defense is what we pride ourselves on) Tomlin and Rivera both understand that and while they might work to change things in the future, they won't do it as long as everything we have in place is still working.