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BlitzburghRockCity
08-28-2011, 03:10 PM
For those that watched the Falcon's game last night, you saw early on the Steelers making a conscience effort to roll Ben out of the pocket and create extra time to set up the throws. Now, this is not something new, we see it regularly by the offense. It's a great weapon to have and Ben runs it perfectly. He does very well especially running to his left but either way I want to see more of it.

Not only is a good play in general to use, but it helps keep Ben from getting killed. With Hills starting at RG most likely and either Gilbert or Scott at LT, the Steelers will need to rely on plays like this to help keep Ben from getting crushed. When you roll out the QB it allows him to by more time by running away from the pressure coming from his back and the pressure in front of him can be blocked down and away from him. Plus when you pop a RB or TE out to his roll out side that gives you an extra blocker who can always break off and get in the flat for a completion.

Arians needs to call more of this type of play this year, it's effective in moving the chains and keeping our Quarterback upright.

LatrobePA
08-28-2011, 04:49 PM
Yes indeed I've been saying it for years, roll him out!!

BlitzburghRockCity
08-28-2011, 04:52 PM
Now even more since Leftwich is done for the year, you've got 2 brittle backups behind him. The more Arians can do to keep Ben's uniform clean the better. I know Bryon wasn't the most reliable guy in terms of health either but man...

Thisoneguy555
08-28-2011, 04:57 PM
The Texans do this a lot, if Arians had more brains he could utilize this a lot better. It was obvious the Falcons were looking run, then Ben does a roll out and strikes deep. What the Texans do is they will run, but every run they do, the quarterback will roll out after he hands the ball off, this keeps the outside defensive end holding his position to watch the QB allowing the running back to get a couple more yards on a cut back, then once the defensive end stops holding, they will do a play action and the quarterback can pick up yards with his legs or just have a lot of extra time to get a pass off.

Arians probably wont do that, but I can see him calling more roll outs for Ben in the future, and just statistically Ben is more accurate when he's throwing from outside of the pocket than he is throwing from inside of the pocket, so it utilizes his own strengths as well as protecting him from the weak pass blocking.

jwmann2
08-28-2011, 05:15 PM
Roethlisberger is the best in the NFL when it comes to throwing on the run. No need to be afraid of him sitting back in the pocket, not too many people can bring him down.

Foggbloke
08-28-2011, 05:43 PM
I think its important to get him rolling out straight off from the start of the season - get everyone used to the way it works now before he gets banged up and then decide they HAVE to do this. Better prevention and acting before it is a situation that they have to do something about.

STEELyourface
08-28-2011, 06:03 PM
I think the most effective example of the roll out/bootleg is from Mike Shanahan when he took over the Broncos and had John Elway. That was their bread and butter and they used it to perfection. I see many similarities between Elway and Ben's game and think it could be incredibly effective used in a similar manner.

Someone mentioned the Texans doing that as well, that began because of Gary Kubiak's connection with Shanahan which is where he learned it and Kyle Shanahan (son) was also on that staff. I think BA stealing from them (we know the NFL is a copy-cat league) and using it with Ben is a great idea.

Props for bringing that up guys!

I don't personally care for Shanahan but its hard to deny his ability to call and script plays.

Black@Gold Forever32
08-28-2011, 06:39 PM
Remember Ben's rookie year when he would just roll out and throw it deep to Plax......He did it all the time that season....I agree roll Ben out all the time...He has the arm and accuracy to throw it on the run......

Katmandu
08-28-2011, 11:16 PM
I see many similarities between Elway and Ben's game and think it could be incredibly effective used in a similar manner.
Ever wonder why Ben chose #7 ? :popcorn: :yellowthumb:

Thisoneguy555
08-28-2011, 11:35 PM
Ever wonder why Ben chose #7 ? :popcorn: :yellowthumb:

Ben has been compared to Elway since he was a rookie. Ben essentially is Elway 2.0

Black@Gold Forever32
08-28-2011, 11:39 PM
Ben and Elway do compare in styles.....Elway did have a stronger arm though.....

STEELyourface
08-29-2011, 12:25 AM
Ever wonder why Ben chose #7 ? :popcorn: :yellowthumb:


Ben has been compared to Elway since he was a rookie. Ben essentially is Elway 2.0

For sure, I was just saying might as well put it to use. Really, no down side, it sets up so many things for them to do with the offense and it doesn't hurt that it would aid the struggles of the O-line a bit. Having said that, I actually think the O-line is going to perform much better this year.

Root4Stlrs
08-29-2011, 01:58 AM
For sure, I was just saying might as well put it to use. Really, no down side, it sets up so many things for them to do with the offense and it doesn't hurt that it would aid the struggles of the O-line a bit. Having said that, I actually think the O-line is going to perform much better this year.

Ben said he chose #7 because John Elway was his hero when he was growing up. It certainly is appropriate b/c there are so many similarities.

pimplydan
08-29-2011, 08:14 AM
Sure is nice to see Ben rollout . I hate watching him get sacked and pressured in the pocket .

Don't forget it's a copycat league.How did the Packers win the superbowl ?
With a mobile qb , rolling out left and right .

In the new era of the NFL the qb has to move around . Arians is just finally doing his homework , godbless.

Remember how the Jets got to Brady in the pocket in the playoffs ,he may have had a bad ankle or something , but todays new era ,the QB has to move and Ben can .

It looks all good to me so far in this preseason.