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Blazedby92
08-16-2011, 04:43 AM
Just heard he played guard against the Skins and Sean Kugler said that was his best game and he's practicing with first team as guard did they find their man I was wondering since I haven't seen him play at all....Ever

JensK
08-16-2011, 05:30 AM
The Steelers have opened a drive-thru window at the right-guard position in their offensive line, hoping the next person in line is just what they ordered.

Tackle Chris Scott, a fifth-round pick in 2010, was the most recent to pass through, getting a chance to play extensively in the preseason opener Friday night against the Washington Redskins at FedEx Field. But, in his first extensive action since being drafted, Scott had the window close quickly.

Next in line: Tony Hills.

Remember him?

After three years of little, if any, action at left tackle, Hills has been moved to right guard and will start there in the second preseason game against the Philadelphia Eagles Thursday night at Heinz Field.,

"Tony is very athletic, maybe the most athletic guy in the group," offensive line coach Sean Kugler said. "We're trying to find the best spot for him where he can help himself and he can help us."

Hills, a fourth-round draft choice in 2008, was used at right guard against the Redskins, and he played so well that the Steelers have inserted him at that position with the first-team offense in practice.

Scott, who missed the entire preseason and was on the physically-unable-to-perform list for the first six games last season, will move back to tackle for now. He had trouble handling twists and stunts by the Redskins defensive linemen.

"Tony Hills had one of his best games as a guard," offensive coordinator Bruce Arians said. "So we're going to give him a shot."

At 6 feet 5, 330 pounds, Hills may not have the prototypical body size to be a guard. But he does have the athleticism to run the team's counter plays that require the guard to pull to the other side.

And it would be an opportunity to play on a regular basis, something Hills hasn't done in three years. He has been inactive for 43 of the 48 games since he was drafted.

"Whatever it is I'm doing, I'm going to keep doing it," Hills said. "I go out there and play hard and aggressive and play with sound technique and not make the same mistake twice. That's what I'm doing
When you know what to do, it's easier to go out and play. Being my fourth year, it's not about knowing the offense now. It's reading defenses, seeing how guys play, different keys to help me up my game."

The Steelers are not giving up on their other two holdovers at right guard -- Ramon Foster, who started the final 10 games of the 2010 season; and Doug Legursky, who started four games there last season.

But they would like to find a player who is a hybrid of both.

Legursky is the smartest offensive lineman on the team -- even more so than center Maurkice Pouncey -- but he is also the smallest (6-1, 315). He might start at left guard against the Eagles if Chris Kemoeatu, who returned Monday to team drills at Saint Vincent College in Latrobe, is held out.

Foster (6-6, 325) replaced Legursky for the final 10 games last season because the Steelers wanted a bigger body to cover a defensive tackle in the 4-3 fronts used by the other teams in the AFC North Division, especially the Baltimore Ravens.

Maybe Hills is that guy.

"He's got great athleticism," Kugler said. "His redirect, his pulling skills, his ability to adjust in space, those translate to guard. I'm not saying he can't play tackle, but we're going to see if those skills flourish at the guard spot. That would be for the benefit of the entire team."

Right now, Hills is considered the top backup to left tackle Jonathan Scott, but that role has a short shelf life. Rookie Marcus Gilbert, their No. 2 draft pick, will be given a chance at some point and will make the roster. And the Steelers still have not dismissed the possibility of bringing back Flozell Adams, their starting right tackle in 2010.

"It's been three years I've been here, and that's what got me to here," Hills said. "And here is where I know the entire offense. I'm looking forward to the opportunity."

I thought he played really well against Redskins. Hopefully he'll turn out be a good guard as he kinda flopped as a tackle prospect.

Blazedby92
08-16-2011, 05:36 AM
I think FLOP is an under statement with what we have had at LT since he has been here but maybe he has found his place.

BlitzburghRockCity
08-16-2011, 08:32 AM
He hasn't done jack at LT so why not try him at RG. The least he can do is nothing, pretty much what he's done since he got here.

So if Hills is the most athletic player on the OL, then how in the hell has he done nothing all this time? Yeah Max Starks had the LT position solidified but when he went down and J. Scott took over, you'd think maybe Hills would have been able to do something to wrestle that job away.

LatrobePA
08-16-2011, 09:00 AM
So who's playing the KEY LT??

K Train
08-16-2011, 09:39 AM
all i can say is despite my disappointment, my extremely high hopes for hills (thought he was a top ten talent if his knees werent shot) and thought he had franchise LT potential...a seriously low risk super high reward pick in the 4th...i was about to say move on failed experiement but if he can be a RG better than the horseshit the steelers have tried at right guard all i have to say is: TONY HILLS LETS ****IN GO haha

andyg1984
08-16-2011, 09:54 AM
i dnt really see hills as a RG ...or anything really

K Train
08-16-2011, 10:07 AM
i dnt really see hills as a RG ...or anything really

if he can be better than foster, essex, stapleton, urbik, or legs im fine with that.

he actually is a supremely talented player, ill stick by it that he would have been right up there with jason/andre smith, oher, monroe that year if he didnt destroy his knees at texas.

one of the most dominant HS tackle prospects ive ever seen, his knees really hindered his development though, not so much skill set wise but body and build wise. He needed to get stronger as a pro, regain confidence in his knees...IF he can turn the corner and play on the inside (which tells me he has gotten stronger) hes got that athletiscm to pull and the size to hold his own.

time will tell, but he is a talented guy...better late than never right?

connecticutsteel
08-16-2011, 10:39 AM
Hills is gifted enough to play guard people don't remember he was a 5 star tight end prospect converted to Tackle at Texas so i think he can play Guard . Guard is another word for they don't have anywhere else to put me before they cut me .So hopefully this works out .

Rampage
08-16-2011, 11:50 AM
I'd love to see them find a spot for him somewhere. Who knows? Maybe he could be the next solid G for the Steelers.

K Train
08-16-2011, 11:56 AM
Hills is gifted enough to play guard people don't remember he was a 5 star tight end prospect converted to Tackle at Texas so i think he can play Guard . Guard is another word for they don't have anywhere else to put me before they cut me .So hopefully this works out .

guard is another word for a tackle that cant cut it at tackle. ****** tackles sometimes do translate to being great guards though

coldrolled
08-16-2011, 12:02 PM
guard is another word for a tackle that cant cut it at tackle. ****** tackles sometimes do translate to being great guards though

what are his past problems with his knees? acl.. bone chips.. mcl ??

K Train
08-16-2011, 12:08 PM
it was career threatening knee reconstruction with significant never damage. he also broke his leg i believe which was another setback.

he was forced to redshirt and switch positions, but the dude was a monster in HS he just had a huge learning curve to switch positions and get his shredded knees in order.

andyg1984
08-16-2011, 12:35 PM
if he can be better than foster, essex, stapleton, urbik, or legs im fine with that.

he actually is a supremely talented player, ill stick by it that he would have been right up there with jason/andre smith, oher, monroe that year if he didnt destroy his knees at texas.

one of the most dominant HS tackle prospects ive ever seen, his knees really hindered his development though, not so much skill set wise but body and build wise. He needed to get stronger as a pro, regain confidence in his knees...IF he can turn the corner and play on the inside (which tells me he has gotten stronger) hes got that athletiscm to pull and the size to hold his own.

time will tell, but he is a talented guy...better late than never right?

i agree the standard is pretty low, but if anything i saw him as a LT ..i dnt really think he has the power to play inside.. i think in HS was a sick TE too

MDSteel15
08-16-2011, 12:37 PM
if he can be better than foster, essex, stapleton, urbik, or legs im fine with that.

he actually is a supremely talented player, ill stick by it that he would have been right up there with jason/andre smith, oher, monroe that year if he didnt destroy his knees at texas.

one of the most dominant HS tackle prospects ive ever seen, his knees really hindered his development though, not so much skill set wise but body and build wise. He needed to get stronger as a pro, regain confidence in his knees...IF he can turn the corner and play on the inside (which tells me he has gotten stronger) hes got that athletiscm to pull and the size to hold his own.

time will tell, but he is a talented guy...better late than never right?

^^^^^^^ :plus1: ^^^^^^

K Train
08-16-2011, 12:42 PM
i agree the standard is pretty low, but if anything i saw him as a LT ..i dnt really think he has the power to play inside.. i think in HS was a sick TE too

hes now had 4 years of college and 4 years of pro training...8 years of a top school and professional training i would hope a 310 pound man could beef up his strength ebough to contribute

connecticutsteel
08-16-2011, 01:05 PM
I guess this means Kieth Williams is not an option this year? I hope Hills finds a spot i always had hoped that he would work out considering what he was supposed to be

Black@Gold Forever32
08-16-2011, 01:06 PM
I'm all for Hills as the RG.......I don't care what position he plays if he pans out as an OG then great so he wouldn't be such a wasted pick......

BlitzburghRockCity
08-16-2011, 01:47 PM
Why not let him try it out, there's no clear cut starter at RG right now. Foster, Legurksy, Chris Scott, and now Hills are all in the mix. This is the time to see if he has a knack for it, it might save him from being cut if he can show he's got the potential to be a Guard. Since he's come to the Steelers he's done nothing but play LT, when even got to play at all.

andyg1984
08-16-2011, 02:20 PM
hes now had 4 years of college and 4 years of pro training...8 years of a top school and professional training i would hope a 310 pound man could beef up his strength ebough to contribute

7 years was not enough, but 8 is? :) ... depends what you mean by contribute ... even if he does start it will be short lived imo .. he had his chance to break out ..

K Train
08-16-2011, 02:27 PM
being that he was never an option at guard or even really a backup tackle because of essex we really have no idea

BlitzburghRockCity
08-16-2011, 04:09 PM
According to Tomlin's press conference this morning, Hills has been working out at Guard in camp alittle bit and of course last week he played there some too. They want to give him the start against the Eagles first team defense and see how he does.

Should be something interesting to watch.

LatrobePA
08-16-2011, 04:17 PM
They'll be coming at ya Ben...

coldrolled
08-16-2011, 06:46 PM
They'll be coming at ya Ben...

Especially if 85 is pass blocking...

HUNT4SEVEN
08-17-2011, 06:04 PM
Hills looks like a bust in the making, David Johnson stunk up the joint against the Skins...Hopefully Hill will catch on at guard.