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BlitzburghRockCity
07-20-2011, 02:48 PM
There's a good article in the Trib that talks about how crazy free agency is going to be. (http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/sports/steelers/s_747497.html)Without the normal weeks and months that teams have in free agency to sign who they want, when they want, and bring in many players for visits and physicals, no longer a reality things will get crazy very quickly.

This will be something that most of us have never experienced from a fan level. When you figure that teams might have 3 days for free agency, maybe a week at the most, and factor in all the work that needs to be done it's intimidating. Kevin Colbert and his crew will have to put whatever plan they have into action immediately. I'm sure they've already got in mind who they will go after from other teams, if anyone. As well as how high they will go to keep Ike Taylor who will high priority for several teams.

Then you also have to consider if there will be additional time allotted to sign the draft picks. Will they consider the free agency signing period the time to also sign the draftees? How many draft picks will get to camp on time? There have been many rumors as to how that will all play out, and if indications are correct we'll know everything by the end of the week. It's also a safe bet that even in the lockout, teams have been secretly talking to free agents and getting a feel for what it will take to sign their own and other players.


Colbert has declined interview requests until the lockout is lifted. But it seems pretty safe to assume that he and the Steelers have done everything they can to prepare for free agency, given how little they've had to do during the NFL's first work stoppage since 1987.

"Teams have already done their homework," said agent Doug Hendrickson, whose clients include Woodley. "They've had different charts up and teams know what they're looking for and especially since the draft ended they know what needs they have, so I don't think there's going to be utter chaos."

Controlled chaos may be more apropos, even for the Steelers, who also have a handful of complementary players that are going to be unrestricted free agents in addition to Taylor and Colon.

The start of free agency, typically in early March, is always marked by a flurry of signings — and that is not expected to change. The difference this year is that the signing period may only precede reporting dates to training camp by a couple of days. That means there won't be a lot of time for teams to court prospective free agents.
"It's going to be very akin to speed dating," said agent Joe Linta, a Freeport native who represents Colon. "The negotiators and the agents are going to have to understand, 'Look, let's get in the ballpark, get it done.' "

Signing undrafted free agents and draft picks shouldn't be problematic, especially since a rookie wage cap will likely be in play.

Top-tier free agents will also be signed quickly, Pittsburgh-based agent Ralph Cindrich said. What is harder to project, Cindrich said, is what happens to the players who are not marquee free agents.

"I think each team knows what they have to do, the minimum they have to accomplish," Cindrich said. "They'll look at the time frame and whatever the rules require, they'll get it done."

There are a lot of unknowns about free agency this year, from what the rules will be once a CBA is in place to how the lockout will affect the value of free agents that would have otherwise had an entire offseason to get acclimated to a new team.
And then there is the reality at how much quicker teams are going to have to move during free agency this year.

"Mistakes are going to be made that would not normally be made," said Rochester-based agent Bill Parise, who represents Steelers outside linebacker James Harrison. "They're going to keep somebody that they would normally need to let go. They're going to let someone go that they should have kept. It's going to be a really intense period. I'm planning on sequestering myself."

DIESELMAN
07-20-2011, 03:32 PM
Oh yeah, it's going to be a free for all. I can't wait :greengrin: Colbert and his team should have their game plan already setup and ready to go. Let's just hope that if we do go after any FA, they will be wise choices that will benefit the Steelers. It's going to be rough on a lot of teams, with the cap being lower, who to resign and how etc. Real interesting, this is where the real GM's separate themselves from the wannabees.


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K Train
07-20-2011, 03:38 PM
Sign Ike

Sign Jonathan Joseph

Bring home the championship


Clearly if we sign 1-2 vet FAs that would be impressive and blow everyone away....im more interested in UDFAs personally. Herzlich, Devine, D Williams, Burney, mcdaniel.....lets go

BlitzburghRockCity
07-20-2011, 04:09 PM
As bad as a position that players and teams are put in with this lockout, I think it's going to be kinda fun to watch all this unfold from a fan perspective. Of course if things don't happen the way we like then we'll all be complaining but I would say this will be the most exciting next few days and weeks than we've seen in a LONG time in the NFL at this stage of the upcoming season.

Rampage
07-20-2011, 04:52 PM
Sign Ike

Sign Jonathan Joseph

Bring home the championship


Clearly if we sign 1-2 vet FAs that would be impressive and blow everyone away....im more interested in UDFAs personally. Herzlich, Devine, D Williams, Burney, mcdaniel.....lets go

I'd really like to see Herzlich come to Pittsburgh. If he could get back to where he used to be, he would be another great LB to have, plus you know he would have a ton of support from the fans after what he overcame.

mwittman5
07-20-2011, 07:10 PM
Sign Ike

Sign Jonathan Joseph

Bring home the championship


Clearly if we sign 1-2 vet FAs that would be impressive and blow everyone away....im more interested in UDFAs personally. Herzlich, Devine, D Williams, Burney, mcdaniel.....lets go

we're 10 mil over the cap. We aren't getting 2 corners like Ike and Joseph. May not even be able to keep Ike.

Real Deal Steel
07-21-2011, 12:19 AM
I'm sure that Colbert has a plan to upgrade the team.

What we will all find out is that the teams with good front offices will be well prepared and able to manage the team rosters.

K Train
07-21-2011, 09:45 AM
we're 10 mil over the cap. We aren't getting 2 corners like Ike and Joseph. May not even be able to keep Ike.

dont pretend to be a salary cap wizard, its not as cut and dry as your making it seem. they could do it....highly doubtful, but possible with all the restructures and cuts

connecticutsteel
07-21-2011, 10:26 AM
What k train said minus devine we don't need anymore s@#$T heads on the team

K Train
07-21-2011, 11:01 AM
devine isnt really a ********, from what ive seen hes grown up a lot. i think we'd be lucky to have him

connecticutsteel
07-21-2011, 11:56 AM
what role would he play we have batch for screen back and blitz pickup there is no role except ST and brown has kickoffs

K Train
07-21-2011, 11:57 AM
hed probably be a better option than batch imo, hes got elite strength and vision....he'll find a home on a roster somewhere and contribute somehow, i have no doubts

connecticutsteel
07-21-2011, 12:03 PM
well they drafted batch not devine so apparently they don't think so

K Train
07-21-2011, 12:14 PM
well drafts over....none of that matters anymore, 7th round draft picks dont have a leg up on UDFAs, its actual on field competition now, not just drills and weigh ins

darnell stapleton made it over cameron stephenson, legursky made it as an UDFA over some bum *** draft picks like kraig urbik.

connecticutsteel
07-21-2011, 01:54 PM
obviously this is true my point was that the steelers don't need depth at RB so they won't take him they are going to sign tiki why is a mystery but a very good friend of mine that knows tiki's agent told him that tomlin talked the rooney's into signing him to camp toml;in is the one who talked him out of retirement

K Train
07-21-2011, 02:16 PM
if that happens my respect for this front office is going to freefall

guys like devine and locke, and even batch are gonna be HUNGRY to compete and they arent elderly. The only reason tiki is coming out of retirement is cause hes flat broke, everyone hates him for leaving his pregnant gf for an intern, and he lost his job as a reporter....not because tomlin "talked him out of it"

Farrior Fan
07-21-2011, 08:34 PM
Ktrain- please don't ever mention Urbik again...I agree, the difference between 7th rounders and UDFAs is slim. Devine could be really fun to watch but man is he little. As for Tomlin talking Tiki into returning, I will believe it when I see it. With Mendenhall, Redman, and the Georgia Tech freak we have zero need for a washed up broke RB.

--- Added 7/21/2011 at 07:34 PM ---

and yes getting Joseph or any other FA CB worth a damn would be awesome. 16-0 would be realistic...thats right I said it. If we got Nmandi or Joseph and resigned Ike we would give up under 10 pts per game.

BlitzburghRockCity
07-22-2011, 02:38 PM
Art Rooney II made a statement today regarding the amount of work that will need to be done for the Steelers to become compliant to the new cap. He mentioned they will have to restructure several deals and extend some others. He also mentioned that Ike is the top priority in free agency for the Steelers.

mos07
07-22-2011, 07:34 PM
Art Rooney II made a statement today regarding the amount of work that will need to be done for the Steelers to become compliant to the new cap. He mentioned they will have to restructure several deals and extend some others. He also mentioned that Ike is the top priority in free agency for the Steelers.

I just read through all the posts on this thread, and ths was the only one needed. The Rooneys will do business as usual.............:cope::cope::cope:

Zachintosh66
07-22-2011, 08:08 PM
dont we gotta sign tiki n plax too :lol:

BlitzburghRockCity
07-24-2011, 03:44 PM
Looks like Free Agency will start next Saturday...get ready for a wild few days that's for sure. **Assuming all goes well with the players vote and recertification this week**

BlitzburghRockCity
07-25-2011, 01:24 PM
Updated now that the new terms are set in motion..looks like the Steelers can start talking to Ike Taylor as soon as tomorrow but can't actually sign him or anyone else until Friday.

BlitzburghRockCity
07-26-2011, 08:51 AM
Expect some quick resolution when it comes to the free-agency questions facing the Steelers. One player agent expects the shortened free-agency period that begins today to be like "speed dating."

"Everything will happen very quickly," Joe Linta, an agent who represents Steelers free-agent offensive lineman Willie Colon, said Monday. "If you're in the ballpark with money, then that will be fine. But we're not going to have time to say, 'We'll get back to you in an hour.'"

Free agency usually starts in March, but it will be crammed into a period of days this year because of the lockout. That will make this week -- and today especially -- long and hectic for Steelers director of football operations Kevin Colbert.

Not only does Colbert have to make decisions on a slew of free agents, but he must also sign undrafted rookies and begin the process of negotiating with the club's seven draft picks, including first-rounder Cameron Heyward, a defensive end from Ohio State.
For the Steelers, more than one-third of its projected 53-man roster is not currently under contract with the club.

Under the terms of the new collective bargaining agreement, rookie contracts are expected to get done without as many problems because of the new rookie wage scale. The most challenging aspect of this post-lockout period before training camp gets under way will be free agency.

Colon is 1 of 13 unrestricted free agents who played for the Steelers last season. Colon and cornerback Ike Taylor are the two highest-profile free agents. Colon was the Steelers starting right tackle from 2007-09 before injuring his Achilles tendon in June 2010. He was placed on injured reserve and could not play last season.

The Steelers signed veteran Flozell Adams to take his place. Adams started every game last season and said he will only return for another season if he is a starter. Max Starks, who missed the second half of last season with a neck injury, is expected to resume his duties as the starting left tackle.

Colon said Monday that he wants to return to the Steelers. Linta acknowledges that, but he said the Steelers have to show an interest in order for that to happen.
"I hope for his sake they do," Linta said. "I know it will be quick and precise. If they want him, we're going to find out soon. And if they don't want him, we'll find out soon. He loves the Steelers. He really, really wants to stay."

Taylor, a starter since 2005, is viewed as the Steelers' top priority in free agency. He has professed his desire to remain in Pittsburgh, too, but he will be among a group of high-profile free agent cornerbacks hitting the open market.

Taylor last year completed a five-year contract worth $22.5 million. Teams could offer in the $7-8 million a year range to get his services. The top cornerback in free agency is Oakland's Nnamdi Asomugha. Other top cornerbacks are Cincinnati's Jonathan Joseph and Antonio Cromartie of the New York Jets.

The only cornerbacks under contract for the Steelers are Bryant McFadden and William Gay.

The other unrestricted free agents who played last season for the Steelers were role players and/or special teams players. They are running back Mewelde Moore, tight end Matt Spaeth, offensive linemen Trai Essex and Jonathan Scott, defensive linemen Chris Hoke and Nick Eason, linebacker Keyaron Fox, cornerback Anthony Madison, punter Daniel Sepulveda, place-kicker Shaun Suisham and long snapper Greg Warren.

Quarterback Dennis Dixon and offensive lineman Tony Hills are restricted free agents.

The other Steelers draft picks after Heyward are offensive lineman Marcus Gilbert (second round), defensive back Curtis Brown (third round), defensive back Cortez Allen (fourth round), defensive lineman Chris Carter (fifth round), offensive lineman Keith Williams (sixth round) and running back Barron Batch (seventh round).

STEELERS 2011 FREE AGENTS

Ike Taylor, CB
Willie Colon, OL
Mewelde Moore, RB
Matt Spaeth, TE
Trai Essex, OL
Jonathan Scott, OL
Chris Hoke, DL
Nick Eason, DL
Keyaron Fox, LB
Anthony Madison, CB
Daniel Sepulveda, P
Shaun Suisham, K
Greg Warren, LS


From the PG (http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/11207/1162986-66-0.stm#ixzz1TDP7Oc5D)