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BlitzburghRockCity
06-30-2011, 04:22 PM
There are 2 obvious choices, Ed Reed and Troy Polamalu. I think you'd be hard pressed to find anyone that is on their level when both are on the field and healthy. LaRon Landry of the Redskins is definitely up near the top as well.

Reed can take an interception to the house anytime he gets his hands on it. He's been rock solid ever since he came into the league. His ability to play the run, pass, and on special teams beyond impressive.

Polamalu is the end all be all free lancing, do it all Safety. His ability to have such a feel for the game and anticipate the play is unlike anything the NFL has seen at his position.

The last 2 years or so neither player has been healthy for a full season and at their best, but still now it would be hard to choose one over the other if you had the chance. Having said that though, who's your choice for the top one?

K Train
06-30-2011, 04:29 PM
landry was abysmal his entire career except last year when he moved to SS...id argue bob sanders, darren sharper, and even sean taylors brief career/life was better than landrys

this is tough cause they play 2 different positions and do things wayyyy differently, the only thing they have in common is they are made of glass. you build a secondary around either one of them, imo playing together they would be terrible as safeties

andyg1984
06-30-2011, 05:22 PM
imo ..

best safety = easily reed
better football player = maybe troy ...

since reed gets the easily vs. the maybe i will give him my vote ... but i think we should all agree that these guys stand alone at the top pretty close together

Zachintosh66
06-30-2011, 05:35 PM
define modern era...

other wise its Ronnie Lott

Rampage
06-30-2011, 07:09 PM
I think Reed is the better straight forward safety. The dude's ball skills are incredible.

connecticutsteel
06-30-2011, 07:53 PM
I'd pick Adrian Wilson before le'ron landry Wilson is a step below reed and polamalu but i think he's in the conversation

steeldoc
06-30-2011, 09:14 PM
Reed is banged up for good, just plays centerfield now. Hates to hit, his neck (thanks to Hines) is a tackle away from retirement. Was great in his prime, but now just a shell of his former self while sucking major bucks away from Raven's management. He threatens to quit every summer, misses most of camp, and shows up early September. Typical Raven..:thumbdown1:

BlitzburghRockCity
06-30-2011, 09:46 PM
define modern era...

other wise its Ronnie Lott

2K era mainly, maybe the last 10-15 years.

Bob Sanders is like Troy and Ed, made of glass. That poor dude can't stay healthy to save his life anymore.

Sean Taylor definitely a good call, so sad his life ended so soon. He was a beast.

Landry has been pretty solid, considering the woes that Washington has had he's been a stable force back there. Their secondary supporting cast around him hasn't been the greatest even though their defense overall usually isn't bad.

MDSteel15
07-01-2011, 12:26 PM
I take Ronnie Lott over any safety of ANY ERA!

K Train
07-01-2011, 12:48 PM
get that noise outta here. reed has almost as many INTs in half the time and has over twice as many total TDs. lott was the first of the kind, but not the best

i dont wanna say troy revolutionized the position, but he does it much much differently that stats are hard to tell the story.

steelchamp204
07-01-2011, 01:20 PM
I really have to say Ed Reed is the best Safety. When he was a SS he was better than troy also. I hate to say but ONLY because hes a raven. If he was on anyother team, besides the Pats alot of steeler fans would say Reed.

LarryNJ
07-01-2011, 02:05 PM
Ed Reed... but I think you can throw Brian Dawkin name around when talking about the best the last decade.

MDSteel15
07-01-2011, 04:27 PM
Train you being a stat whore? Man, Lott played CB and Safety and hit harder than both Reed and Troy! I love Troy but c'mon.... Totally different styles

Dean Denton
07-04-2011, 03:37 AM
I take troy over any player in the history of the game if Im putting a Defense together. Except LT. Even that I would have to think about. No player has ever ment more to a team then troy. Lott played on an all pro Def and had montana/rice running up scores forcing teams to throw, giving more chances for INT's. Troy plays all 11 spots on the D, no one else has dont that. History wise maybe Kenny Easley. No one has ever changed games like troy. last time i checked reed has played in 0 SB, troy 3, winning 2. Also, troy is really the reason the steelers were there. you take him out and the steelers do not make the SB at all. If you would have removed lott the 49ers would have still gone and won. Those teams were loaded with talent, these steelers cant make that same claim. Troy all the way. Dick says he's the best def player he has ever seen. he would know, he's seen them all.

Rampage
07-04-2011, 01:27 PM
I take troy over any player in the history of the game if Im putting a Defense together. Except LT. Even that I would have to think about. No player has ever ment more to a team then troy. Lott played on an all pro Def and had montana/rice running up scores forcing teams to throw, giving more chances for INT's. Troy plays all 11 spots on the D, no one else has dont that. History wise maybe Kenny Easley. No one has ever changed games like troy. last time i checked reed has played in 0 SB, troy 3, winning 2. Also, troy is really the reason the steelers were there. you take him out and the steelers do not make the SB at all. If you would have removed lott the 49ers would have still gone and won. Those teams were loaded with talent, these steelers cant make that same claim. Troy all the way. Dick says he's the best def player he has ever seen. he would know, he's seen them all.

I don't know if I would start an "all-time" defense with Polamalu. His presence seems to bring the secondary to life, but I believe that has more to do with the lack of talent around him than him having overwhelming skill. I love the guy, but I would probably go with a guy like Woodson before Polamalu if I were sticking with Steeler players only.

BlitzburghRockCity
07-06-2011, 01:58 PM
I think if I were starting a new defense I would take Polamlu in his prime, in a hot second. The only problem would be, is it a system he could flourish in like the Lebeau runs now. If he's in a structured defense where you only do your job and stay in your part of the field then maybe he's not as effective. His ability to roam around and make plays all over the field is a huge part of his game.

I've often wondered if Troy would have left via free agency at any point, if he would have had the career that he's had to date.

jnes1216
07-06-2011, 07:53 PM
I think if I were starting a new defense I would take Polamlu in his prime, in a hot second. The only problem would be, is it a system he could flourish in like the Lebeau runs now. If he's in a structured defense where you only do your job and stay in your part of the field then maybe he's not as effective. His ability to roam around and make plays all over the field is a huge part of his game.

I've often wondered if Troy would have left via free agency at any point, if he would have had the career that he's had to date.

I would argue ONLY Troy's position is not structured because of the type of player he is. Anyone else, LeBeau keeps a tight rein. With Troy, you let the athlete play. That's why I would pick him over Reed. He gives LeBeau the freedom to make all pros out of the OLBs. Reed who has incredible skill had Lewis and that fat commentator now (sorry the name escapes me) to clog the middle and he could roam and gorge himself off the throws. It is neck and neck as both have benefitted from incredible defensive fronts. But I bet Polamalu would make a bigger impact on a different team than Reed. Reed seems to react better than anyone else in the game, but Troy is a creator.

chisteeler
07-06-2011, 09:17 PM
I would argue ONLY Troy's position is not structured because of the type of player he is. Anyone else, LeBeau keeps a tight rein. With Troy, you let the athlete play. That's why I would pick him over Reed. He gives LeBeau the freedom to make all pros out of the OLBs. Reed who has incredible skill had Lewis and that fat commentator now (sorry the name escapes me) to clog the middle and he could roam and gorge himself off the throws. It is neck and neck as both have benefitted from incredible defensive fronts. But I bet Polamalu would make a bigger impact on a different team than Reed. Reed seems to react better than anyone else in the game, but Troy is a creator.

Siragusa...AKA The Goose or as I say Fat ***!:tt02:

jnes1216
07-06-2011, 10:56 PM
Siragusa...AKA The Goose or as I say Fat ***!:tt02:

siragusa, thank you... I drew a blank for sure...

i just think Troy "bends" the defense around his play. Whereas Reed is reactionary a lot of the times.