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BlitzburghRockCity
06-30-2011, 02:42 PM
His future has not generated as much speculation as Ike Taylor's but Willie Colon finds himself in a similar situation as the Steelers cornerback.
Colon wants to stay in Pittsburgh. But, like Taylor, Colon acknowledges that a decision he may have to make in the near future is a business one, too.

Colon is expected to be an unrestricted free agent once the NFL lockout ends. And a number of factors could complicate his returning to the team for which he started 54 consecutive games at right tackle from 2006-09.

They range from a potential crowd the Steelers have at tackle to how much of a priority the organization will make Colon when teams have a limited period to sign free agents and draft picks.

What may be low — or lower than some might think — on the Steelers' list of considerations when it comes to Colon: the foot injury he sustained a little over a year ago.

That is how well Colon is moving around after missing last season because of a ruptured Achilles tendon.
"You wouldn't even know anything's wrong with him," Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger said.
Colon shredded his right Achilles tendon while running sprints at the Steelers' facility last June. The 6-foot-3, 315-pounder said he had fully recovered from the injury by January and that the lockout is all that prevented him from practicing during the offseason.

"When I've got to go against (LaMarr) Woodley and some of those other guys, then I will know where I'm exactly at," Colon said, "but right now, I feel great."
What may be more of a question for the Steelers is where Colon fits into their plans — both this year and beyond.

Flozell Adams, who signed with the Steelers last July, exceeded expectations after moving from left to right tackle. All indications are that he wants to return for the second and final year of his contract.

Also, the Steelers used their second-round draft pick in April on 6-6, 330-pound Marcus Gilbert, though they plan to try him at both tackle and guard before deciding where he best fits.

Even if Colon returns to the Steelers, he could be on the move.
Coach Mike Tomlin and offensive line coach Sean Kugler have said they are open to the possibility of Colon playing guard in 2011. That is something that could be particularly intriguing to the Steelers if left tackle Max Starks makes a healthy return from a neck injury — and if the coaches are confident they can coax another good year out of the 36-year-old Adams.

Perhaps the biggest factor working against such a move is the Steelers did not have the luxury of experimenting during the offseason since all practices were a casualty of the lockout.

"I'm not against it," Colon said of moving to guard, "but nevertheless, I feel like I'm a right tackle. We pull (left guard) Chris (Kemoeatu) so much that if I was to move to guard, I know I could add some balance. However, my heart is at tackle. I love the challenge of playing out there."

The Steelers and Joe Linta have never had serious discussions on a long-term deal for Colon. But Linta, Colon's agent, said he is ready to talk when the NFL re-opens for business.

"I think Willie's the No. 1 or No. 2 right tackle in football," Linta said. "I would hope they want him back but if they don't I feel confident someone will."


Colon, a self-described "blue-collar player," said he is looking for a fair deal when the time comes for him to sign a long-term contract. He also will look out for his family.
Colon's mother has Lupus and cannot work. She lives with Colon, who said he has been the "man" of the house since his father passed away prior to the Steelers' Super Bowl win against the Arizona Cardinals in early 2009.


"My heart is definitely in Pittsburgh but like my agent has stressed and I've stressed I've got to be able to help my family," said Colon, who signed a one-year, $2.52 million deal in 2010. "Being a Steelers is an honor in itself but with that said my goal is just to flat out be the best football player I can, if not for the Steelers then somebody."


Article from the Trib (http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/sports/steelers/s_744505.html)

Rampage
06-30-2011, 02:49 PM
"I think Willie's the No. 1 or No. 2 right tackle in football," Linta said. "I would hope they want him back but if they don't I feel confident someone will."

ROFL

Okay, go get that #1/#2 money, then. I don't smoke pot, but I would try some if I could have what Colon and his agent are smoking.

BlitzburghRockCity
06-30-2011, 02:55 PM
His agent has mentioned this before, how he thinks Colon is a top 2 Tackle in the NFL. Now I know as an agent you're supposed to be in your guys corner and pump him up to potential suitors, but goodness, Colon is good but he's not a top 2 tackle by any stretch.

There's just no way!

In any event based on this article and also Ed Bouchette from the PG, his agent isn't optimistic they'll hear from the Steelers once the lockout ends anyways. The future Tackle opposite Max Starks is Marcus Gilbert in 2012. Like we've talked about before, Colon could be a real decent Guard but it's not imperative right now, Foster does a pretty solid job.

Rampage
06-30-2011, 03:07 PM
His agent has mentioned this before, how he thinks Colon is a top 2 Tackle in the NFL. Now I know as an agent you're supposed to be in your guys corner and pump him up to potential suitors, but goodness, Colon is good but he's not a top 2 tackle by any stretch.

There's just no way!

In any event based on this article and also Ed Bouchette from the PG, his agent isn't optimistic they'll hear from the Steelers once the lockout ends anyways. The future Tackle opposite Max Starks is Marcus Gilbert in 2012. Like we've talked about before, Colon could be a real decent Guard but it's not imperative right now, Foster does a pretty solid job.

If Colon would play guard, I wouldn't mind him staying. For the price, it may be better to let him go and keep Foster so that extra space could be allocated to a more important signing.

K Train
06-30-2011, 03:32 PM
colon is probably a top 6 RT...many steeler fans dont like that about him for some reason lol

Rampage
06-30-2011, 03:57 PM
colon is probably a top 6 RT...many steeler fans dont like that about him for some reason lol

I really haven't be impressed enough by his play to call him a top flight RT. I'd rather save cap space and keep Adams than struggle to sign Colon.

K Train
06-30-2011, 04:18 PM
yeah we need the cap space with all the sweet free agents they go after lol

if they wanna free up cap space they should make ward and troy restructure...making wayyyyy too much money for either not even close to enough production (ward) or is always injured (troy). realistically we dont need to free up cap space. the front office is good about making the extension woodley and ike are due pretty cap friendly and back end heavy

Black@Gold Forever32
06-30-2011, 04:21 PM
I think you're over-rating Colon big time Ktrain....I could easily name 10 RT's that I would take over Colon.......I think a washed up 36 year old Flo Adams is better then Colon ever was in his prime....Now Colon is coming off injury and that is even a bigger no thanks for me...Let the bum leave and I hope he isn't resigned......

K Train
06-30-2011, 04:41 PM
flo clearly wasnt washed up, he was just old....hes a prototype RT even though he went all his career being a moderately good LT.

Damian Woody, David Stewart, Jeff Otah, vernon carey...maybe a couple others based on potential like anthony davis, gabe carimi....EASILY naming RTs around the league isnt very easy though

just for a reference though

FO: http://footballoutsiders.com/stats/ol2009
#8 running around the right end

PFF: Third best tackle in the league. Best primary RT.
http://profootballfocus.com/by_position.php?tab=b...

These numbers are far better than most would expect. There's a gaping hole to his left and that makes him look a lot worse than he is....having essex as the worst RG in football playing next to the worst C in football 3 years running was tough on colon and he was still rock solid. Its tough to truly evaluate those stats but hes been a hell of a consistent player. you say im way overrating him, i say your way underrating him for a few holding and false starts.

not saying i love him, but i like him alright enough to keep him around. hes a phenomenal drive blocker, him at guard might actually be an interesting experiement

BlitzburghRockCity
06-30-2011, 05:07 PM
Guard yes, run blocker, sure. He's a big time road grader so you have to love that about him. Watching him get torched on his outside was hard to watch though man. He was above average when he played but I still say he's not a long term answer at Right Tackle.

Flozell was certainly not washed up, he was a victim of younger players and the salary cap. He did have some holding and false start issues late in his career at Dallas but he proved he's still got some fight left in him.

Keeping Colon around as to fight it out at Guard and backup Tackle would be a best case scenario but who knows if he'd be willing to come back without a guarantee getting his starting job back.

Black@Gold Forever32
07-01-2011, 02:41 AM
flo clearly wasnt washed up, he was just old....hes a prototype RT even though he went all his career being a moderately good LT.

Damian Woody, David Stewart, Jeff Otah, vernon carey...maybe a couple others based on potential like anthony davis, gabe carimi....EASILY naming RTs around the league isnt very easy though

just for a reference though

FO: http://footballoutsiders.com/stats/ol2009
#8 running around the right end

PFF: Third best tackle in the league. Best primary RT.
http://profootballfocus.com/by_position.php?tab=b...

These numbers are far better than most would expect. There's a gaping hole to his left and that makes him look a lot worse than he is....having essex as the worst RG in football playing next to the worst C in football 3 years running was tough on colon and he was still rock solid. Its tough to truly evaluate those stats but hes been a hell of a consistent player. you say im way overrating him, i say your way underrating him for a few holding and false starts.

not saying i love him, but i like him alright enough to keep him around. hes a phenomenal drive blocker, him at guard might actually be an interesting experiement

Sure Flo was damn good in 2010 especially for his age but his best days are behind him period....lol I'll take a declining Flo Adams over Willie Colon in his prime......I should have used declining instead of washed up......

I don't think I'm underrating him since the only thing he does well is drive blocking .......I don't think I mentioned any penalties in this thread and I have always believed Colon is average on his best days as a RT and he is coming off injury...No thanks....I'll stick with the old fart and Gilbert......

A move to OG will never happen since we have talked about this for years now and still Willie has never got a sniff at OG......I always wanted Colon to play OG since I don't think he is an NFL quality OT but I'm not counting on it......

Thanks for the reference on Willie Colon but it does nothing to change my opinion on him......I would even take Gosder Cherilus over Colon and I wasn't a huge fan of Cherilus when he came out.......Phil Loadholt from the Vikes is another RT.....Naming RT's isn't that hard if you watch enough NFL football....Now I'm not saying you don't and I know you do......But I think you know damn well there is 10 or more RT's better then Willie ****ing Colon in the NFL......:lol:

K Train
07-01-2011, 10:22 AM
i thoroughly disagree....cherilus and loadholt were ABYSMAL last year, loadholt had a promising rookie year and he regressed big time. but he and cherilus are guys that i reference as "Only right tackle" prospects come along because they have zero LT potential, so i use them as a jumping off point for that, and they really arent even playing that well.

I think you should be willing to give colon a chance playing with a star center and a quality starter at RG because he was playing with literally the worst combination of the 2 in the league. Im not neccesarily trying to change your opinion but hartwig didnt play last year and he still has given up the most sacks for a center or interior lineman over the last 3 years...thats almost impressively terrible. and during essex's starting stint he was the worst guard in football. im just sayin, maybe it will make a difference.

and i think if we were ever gonna see colon at guard it would be this year

BlitzburghRockCity
07-01-2011, 04:54 PM
If we are ever going to see him at Guard it will be this year, I agree with that. If he is going to come back he's not going to be guaranteed a job, which means either Guard or Tackle on the right side. He feels he's a top tackle in the NFL, I just don't see him coming back and competing for a job. Had the Steelers not drafted Gilbert this year I would say there's a good chance he's back at RT, but not now.

I will say that when he played the line was nothing great, barely keeping Ben alive on a weekly basis. Perhaps he would be better now playing with a quality center and good players overall; atleast better players. I'm not sure I'd want to stake my future on him.

coldrolled
07-05-2011, 09:14 AM
Pittsburgh Steelers

Willie Colon's agent isn't optimistic about the offensive tackle returning to Pittsburgh. "They haven't called about Willie in three years," said agent Joe Linta. "I'm not expecting them to call because they haven't yet. That's the way they do business, and that's fine. But if they do call we'll pick up the phone."

BlitzburghRockCity
07-06-2011, 02:17 PM
We've talked about before, signing Colon to the 1 yr deal was an insurance move. Had Adams not worked out or didn't want to return, they had an option for RT for the future. Now with Gilbert on the roster and Flozell back, his days are numbered.

The Rooney's have done stranger things in the past though and it usually seems to work out, but your gut feeling has to tell you that he isn't coming back.

connecticutsteel
07-07-2011, 03:41 AM
People forget Flozell is deaf in his right ear so it is harder to play left tackle he may have more than 1 year left cause he can here the qb now

K Train
07-07-2011, 10:30 AM
hes old though, the hearing thing helped when he made the move but his body wont be able to hold up forever....hes played a position for a long time that takes a tol on his gigantic body.

one more year max, i really wish he could have gotten his ring here just to stick it to dallas