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connecticutsteel
05-12-2011, 11:16 AM
I have read several articles that suggest that this will happen when LeBeau retires. Another question is does Keith Butler know the Defense well enough to teach it or do we pursue someone like Kevin Greene in Green Bay?:thinking::thinking:

K Train
05-12-2011, 11:29 AM
we have no reason to pursue kevin greene.

no he wont swtich to a 43...hes not married to it just because he started off in a tampa 2. butler is the next DC, he learned from lebeau and tomlin has stated he likes the 34.

if we do switch though, with this group of players we are ****ed. heyward will be ineffective and the pass rush would blow ***. the only players that would benefit from it would be hood and timmons and at this point it would be a setback for them being theyve spent years trying to learn the 34 and getting their game up to 34 standards when hood is naturally a UT and timmons a WILL

timmons would be a ****ing monster as a weakside backer in a 43 though

connecticutsteel
05-12-2011, 11:35 AM
agreed your on the money as usual

BlitzburghRockCity
05-12-2011, 01:05 PM
Switching defenses isn't something you can just do at the drop of a hat. The entire defense has been built for a 34 scheme ever since Dom Capers first took over and brought it in, and then with Lebeau of course. None of the front 7 players we have would be suited for a 43 type of defense. That's not to say they can't play it because Lebeau does use 43 type schemes at any given time to mix things up but overall our guys are 34 type of players.

As K train said, Keith Butler has been learning under Lebeau for a long time now, he's should be able to step in and be successful when Dick Lebeau hangs it up.

SteelDad
05-12-2011, 01:21 PM
Yup. Ktrain and BRC are dead-on here. We would have to do some serious personnel changing within our D-line and LB corps especially. What wouldn't surprise me however, is a 'hybrid' form of defense at times in the future, but even that would be a stretch.

K Train
05-12-2011, 01:27 PM
43 is a JV defense anyway...you play that **** in HS and college. 34 is for the big boys in this era, theres no reason to run a 43 full time unless you have a monster DE like peppers or mario

Mike Tomlin
05-12-2011, 01:48 PM
Tomlin won't change he loves the 3-4 because of the pressure it brings. Plus the guys that would be left behind have been raised in the 3-4. I think Tomlin only cares about the coverage on the back end of the defense. Didn't he bring a few of the Tampa 2 coverages to our scheme his first year?

connecticutsteel
05-12-2011, 02:46 PM
but even mario is going 3-4 now hes a olb now lol

Zachintosh66
05-12-2011, 02:49 PM
Keep the 3-4... They have pretty much stated (in not so many words) That Butler is the heir apparent for the d-cord. They obviously have faith in him that he will continue our dominance.

K Train
05-12-2011, 02:57 PM
im pretty sure its in butlers contract....otherwise im sure he would have bolted

Black@Gold Forever32
05-12-2011, 03:16 PM
This question again....lol No the Steelers under Tomlin won't be switching to a 4-3.......lol I know many Steelers freak out that the great Dick LeBeau is close to retiring but we will be fine without LeBeau.....Butler has been groomed and is ready to take over when LeBeau does finally decide to retire which I would think he is close....But who knows.....

BlitzburghRockCity
05-12-2011, 03:31 PM
The reason that the Steelers made sure that the Cardinals couldn't talk to Butler last offseason was because they knew that Lebeau won't be around for many more years and they want to secure the future at defensive coordinator. When Coach Dad hangs up the playbook, Butler will step in and we'll keep right on truckin.

Callax
05-12-2011, 03:39 PM
I do not think he will switch.... we do not have the people for the 4-3.....
Our pass rush will amonut to ZERO.... It is easier to find pass rushers who were DL/DE in college but are made into 3-4 OLB who can rush the QB
Woodley best example.....
Although it is hard to find good D-Line who can play the 3-4 D-line like A Smith, Keisel and Hampton..... Hood is looking good as AS replacement and We hope Heyward is a diamond in the rough..
We have the Def Coord. in waiting in Butler when D.L. decides to retire
REPEAT when HE decides to retire....

K Train
05-12-2011, 04:04 PM
I do not think he will switch.... we do not have the people for the 4-3.....
Our pass rush will amonut to ZERO.... It is easier to find pass rushers who were DL/DE in college but are made into 3-4 OLB who can rush the QB
Woodley best example.....
Although it is hard to find good D-Line who can play the 3-4 D-line like A Smith, Keisel and Hampton..... Hood is looking good as AS replacement and We hope Heyward is a diamond in the rough..
We have the Def Coord. in waiting in Butler when D.L. decides to retire
REPEAT when HE decides to retire....

lol heyward is a better 5 tech today than hood will be tomorrow. "diamond in the rough" is brett keisel, a 7th round pick from brigham young. not a first rounder from a premier pro factory school who draws comparisons to richard seymour

anyway, the steelers is usually top 5 in sacks, top 2 against the run, and top 5 overall....why toy with something that not only works, but would leave you handicapped until you get the right players in

Steel Trap86
05-12-2011, 07:57 PM
The Steelers have the best defense in the league (imo). Why **** with that. No reason to ever change what we have going. The new DC will make his own adjustments, but it will still be a 3-4