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Scorp
01-15-2011, 10:13 PM
Has he brought magic back to the Steelers?

Is he the leader of this team like he said he wanted to be?

Is it going to catch up to him that he holds on to the ball too long where it's going to cost him and the Steelers?

LatrobePA
01-15-2011, 10:14 PM
Big Ben is a Steeler!! I woudn't trade him for no one!!

BlitzburghRockCity
01-15-2011, 10:17 PM
There is NO question whatsoever. We won this game as much because of the defense, as we did with Ben. If he doesn't make the throws, get the first downs, stay cool under pressure and deliver that pass to Brown, we don't win this game.

He struggled in the first half, no question. The line wasn't blocking, things were bad. He rallied, he never gave up. He is an unquestioned leader. Not the only one, but he is one for sure.

BlitzburghRockCity
01-15-2011, 10:19 PM
Just to add, there is no question that Ben is worlds better than Flacco right now. Joe is good, no question but when it counts he can't deliver the win. He's not in Ben's league yet.

steelersbabex25
01-15-2011, 10:22 PM
Just to add, there is no question that Ben is worlds better than Flacco right now. Joe is good, no question but when it counts he can't deliver the win. He's not in Ben's league yet.

I'm sick and tired of this Ben vs. Flacco bullshit.
Ben = scored 17 unanswered points to put his team up after a miserable first half.
Flacco = threw an int and lost a bobbled snap to put the game in the Steelers hands.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, Flacco could have the best stats in the world, they may even be better than Ben's. But stats don't count for a thing when the game is on the line and you have to make things happen. Ben can do it, Flacco can't. Peace Choko. Have fun watching the rest of the playoffs on your living room couch and crying about it..

Scorp
01-15-2011, 10:23 PM
Just to add, there is no question that Ben is worlds better than Flacco right now. Joe is good, no question but when it counts he can't deliver the win. He's not in Ben's league yet.

That is why he is 0-3 against ben or 0-6. No where near his league. He's watching Ben through the hole in the fence.

jd1000
01-15-2011, 10:36 PM
Yep but folks I notice with the NY centered media how they fawn over Brady, Flacco, Sanchez, and Manning (well both Mannings). Notice the geographic correlation there. IF the Bills were decent if would happen with that QB too. And journalists like soap operas so I guess that rules in Favre too but his sun has set.

Eventually, the SuperBowl rings for Ben will force those media types to recognize him for what he is. Three rings and Ben is almost a lock for the HOF. Four for sure. He's halfway there. Lets do our part to get him three-fourths there THIS year.

JD from Utah

Scorp
01-15-2011, 10:41 PM
Yep but folks I notice with the NY centered media how they fawn over Brady, Flacco, Sanchez, and Manning (well both Mannings). Notice the geographic correlation there. IF the Bills were decent if would happen with that QB too. And journalists like soap operas so I guess that rules in Favre too but his sun has set.

Eventually, the SuperBowl rings for Ben will force those media types to recognize him for what he is. Three rings and Ben is almost a lock for the HOF. Four for sure. He's halfway there. Lets do our part to get him three-fourths there THIS year.

JD from Utah

Ben doesn't give a rats dead *** for records and breaking them and having the media including him in talks with Scaby and Hammy. He just wants to win Super Bowls and that is all that matters to him. He is well on his way and he has a faithful nation standing behind him. :cope:

nuclearchihuahuas
01-15-2011, 10:45 PM
That is why he is 0-3 against ben or 0-6. No where near his league. He's watching Ben through the hole in the fence.

yep! :yesnod::yesnod::yesnod:

Phenomenal TJ
01-15-2011, 10:52 PM
The only issue I've got with Ben is his stupid 2+ pump fakes on a single play, lol. Other than that, this guy is a leader, and perhaps more importantly a winner.

Black@Gold Forever32
01-15-2011, 10:54 PM
I coined the nickname for Flacco....Joe "Squats To Pee" Flacco since he always folds when the game is on the line and makes crucial mistakes at big moments......He is very good early in games and looks the part but he is a fraud........Maybe I'll be wrong over time but I don't see Flacco ever winning a Super Bowl.....To blow a 21-7 lead.....lol Yea the Steelers is very good no doubt but our defense and LeBeau know they can get in Flacco's head.........

Scorp
01-15-2011, 10:56 PM
I coined the nickname for Flacco....Joe "Squats To Pee" Flacco since he always folds when the game is on the line and makes crucial mistakes at big moments......He is very good early in games and looks the part but he is a fraud........Maybe I'll be wrong over time but I don't see Flacco ever winning a Super Bowl.....To blow a 21-7 lead.....lol Yea the Steelers is very good no doubt but our defense and LeBeau know they can get in Flacco's head.........

I think you mean he is another Romo. :yellowthumb:

BlitzburghRockCity
01-15-2011, 11:54 PM
On cooler talk after the game, Tunch & Wolf were talking about this very topic. Quite honestly, there just isn't any comparison. Flacco is a fine QB, he is way above average, however he's not on the level of Roethlisberger. There are many QB's in the league that aren't though. For whatever reason, this comparison always comes up. In the regular season everyone says how great Flacco is, but when it counts he just doesn't have it or get it.

steeldoc
01-16-2011, 12:27 AM
We are lucky, very lucky to have Ben. He seldom flinches, (did you see Flacco stain his pants in the second half?) and the Steelers are virtually always in the game. They showed resilience today after a pathetic half. If I were a Raven's fan I would just be sick, and sick for a long while. They had a chance to beat the Steelers at home, up by 14, and did did not get a first down until the fourth quarter. No wonder Flacco could not start at Pitt.

mwittman5
01-16-2011, 12:30 AM
people can rag on Ben all day and say manning, brady, and others are better bcz of stats but in terms of playing well when it matters or being clutch, Ben is among the best.

pimplydan
01-16-2011, 01:10 PM
Have you noticed the leader he has become?

This guy won something like 17 games in a row before becoming a pro.Won his first 6 as a pro .He is a natural born winner.
Today his offensive line was over its head with pressure , Ben didn't even flinch .
His protection of the football today was amazing .
There were a few dangerous throws around the goal line that he chose to hang on to.


I think his has only one focus and that is a superbowl ring and I think he is going to get it .

steelersbabex25
01-16-2011, 01:24 PM
I feel like he's a natural born winner because he refuses to lose. He's just one of those guys that won't ever give up on a play till it's over, because he wants to make that throw that'll help his team win. He isn't afraid to get hurt, he isn't afraid to get his nose broken, he isn't afraid to play with a broken foot, because he hates to lose. Regardless of what was said during the offseason, I'm damn proud he wears the black and gold.

steelersbabex25
01-16-2011, 02:08 PM
I think this says it all:

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/1753/roethlisbergerbatchnflm.jpg (http://img9.imageshack.us/i/roethlisbergerbatchnflm.jpg/)

Real Deal Steel
01-16-2011, 02:14 PM
On cooler talk after the game, Tunch & Wolf were talking about this very topic. Quite honestly, there just isn't any comparison. Flacco is a fine QB, he is way above average, however he's not on the level of Roethlisberger. There are many QB's in the league that aren't though. For whatever reason, this comparison always comes up. In the regular season everyone says how great Flacco is, but when it counts he just doesn't have it or get it.

I don't think Flacco is way above average. Flacco is fortunate not to be as pressured as most QB's because of the Ravens defense. But when he is pressured, he folds like a house of cards.

When Ben is pressured, he comes up with the big play.

If Flacco played on the Bucs, he wouldn't be as good as Josh Freeman to me. But if Ben played on the Bucs, Ben would excel.

steelersbabex25
01-16-2011, 02:25 PM
When Ben is pressured, he comes up with the big play.

Hoge was talking yesterday about how Ben is so good because he can be whoever you want him to be. You give him good protection and let him hang in the pocket to find the open receiver, he can be that guy. The offensive line compeltely folds and he needs to scramble to pick up some yards, he can be that guy too. Give Manning or Brady the offensive line that we have, make them scramble the way that Ben has to scramble, there's no way that anybody is calling them elite quarterbacks. They wouldn't be able to do it. Why Ben is put behind Rivers and Rodgers and Brees in the best quarterbacks in the league talks, I will never understand.

Clevelandsux
01-16-2011, 03:01 PM
Ben even sounds better in interviews now. No more talking like he's from the hood. no more of the whining too. I think i PR guy must have worked with him to improve his image.

Phenomenal TJ
01-16-2011, 05:17 PM
Ben even sounds better in interviews now. No more talking like he's from the hood. no more of the whining too. I think i PR guy must have worked with him to improve his image.

Or maybe the off-season debacle made him grow up.

andyg1984
01-17-2011, 11:19 PM
where is joeflaccosayshi when we need him?

Real Deal Steel
01-17-2011, 11:58 PM
He's where we need him to be..nudered and quiet. Like old fighto the dog. hahaha

coldrolled
01-18-2011, 12:55 PM
Ben again.. Tells BA whats up....

In a rivalry involving teams that know each other very well, the element of surprise turned out to be the difference. Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger went to offensive coordinator Bruce Arians and came up with the idea to send Brown deep while most of the attention was on other receivers like Wallace and Hines Ward. Brown received little playing time during the regular season.

"That speaks volumes for [Brown] to be ready then," Roethlisberger said. "He usually gets short routes and he's only in for a handful of them. He stepped up big when his number was called and he made a play."

"It was a great play at the right time, at the right moment," said Brown, who also added 101 yards against Baltimore on punt and kickoff returns.


BA Sucks...

Scorp
01-20-2011, 05:35 PM
Ben Roethlisberger is a changed man, they say. Pittsburgh is working on taking him back.

Roethlisberger works to rebuild trust

By Elizabeth Merrill
ESPN.com

PITTSBURGH -- The barkeeps along Carson Street say they haven't seen Ben Roethlisberger around in a while. They'd know if he were here. Pittsburgh, at its core, is one big little city. And people talk.



Steel mills used to drive the South Side, but sweat and grit have been replaced by Abercrombie & Fitch. It's a trendy area now, loaded with yuppies, college kids and watering holes. This used to be Roethlisberger's stomping grounds -- well, one of them -- and stories flow like Iron City beer from a tap.

There was a time, back in the boozy, pre-scandal days, when Roethlisberger could triple a bar's foot traffic within an hour. He'd show up at Jack's Rose Bar, a couple of patrons would grab their cell phones and text BIG BEN'S HERE, and the party would begin.

"He frequented our place a lot," said Chris Dawso, who owns Jack's. "We used to call him the Pied Piper.



"But he hasn't been around at all this year."



Roethlisberger, his supporters say, has grown up. He had to. The face of the Pittsburgh Steelers franchise stood in front of an angry and disappointed city this past spring, at the precipice of losing everything. In April, prosecutors had decided not to charge him with sexually assaulting a woman in Georgia, but he was facing a six-game suspension by the NFL. (It was later reduced to four.) He had two Super Bowl rings, and a locker room many suspected he had lost. Team president Art Rooney II said Roethlisberger had to work hard to earn back trust.



On the field, it's clear the 28-year-old quarterback has done that. He has hobbled around on an injured foot, toughed out a broken nose and led the Steelers to the AFC Championship Game, which will be played Sunday night at Heinz Field against the New York Jets.



Off the field, Roethlisberger has spent the past nine months lying low. He's rumored to be engaged, a claim his camp will not confirm, and no longer travels with bodyguards or entourages. He eschews the bar scene, which has been the root of just about every one of his problems.



Has he changed? On the north side of Pittsburgh, the jury's still out. Mark Baranowski is watching Roethlisberger's progress with skepticism and hope. Baranowski is known as sort of the Norma Rae of bar owners in Pittsburgh, the man who stood up to Roethlisberger a few years back when the quarterback, according to Baranowski, showed up at his Cabana Bar and acted immature and entitled, and refused to pay a $5 cover charge.



It wasn't about five bucks, Baranowski says. It was about being a Pittsburgher.



"The town was really fed up with him," Baranowski said. "They were really down on him, and there were a lot of people who just didn't want him to be our quarterback.



"But it seems like he's trying to turn it around. I haven't heard one bad story. I hope he keeps it up. He's got everything going for him. He's big and strong and tough, and people just idolize him. I mean, he could own this city."




'He's worked at it'



Eventually, they'll forget. If No. 7 leads the Steelers to their seventh Super Bowl title, the anger will subside and Roethlisberger's misdeeds will ultimately be a distant memory.



"The thing about life is that if you're a winner, people will forgive a little bit easier," said Jim Coen, the owner of Yinzers, a popular novelty store in the Strip District. "As long as you're heading in the right direction and not doing anything stupid, the city will forgive."

It was Martin Luther King Jr. Day, and the Strip was bustling with lunchtime shoppers buying black-and-gold gear. Nine months ago, when the Big Ben news hit the fan, Yinzers marked down Roethlisberger jerseys to $10. But now they're back at full price and selling at a steady clip.



Sixty-four thousand fans screamed for him Saturday night, after the Steelers' 31-24 win against Baltimore, and he lingered on the field to take it all in. Trust, in late-game situations, was never an issue with Roethlisberger. He plays on the edge, without fear, and is one of the most clutch quarterbacks in the league. Saturday night was no exception. The Steelers were down by two touchdowns to start the third quarter. Roethlisberger couldn't be rattled.



On third-and-19, late in the game, he uncorked a 58-yard pass to rookie receiver Antonio Brown. It set up the winning touchdown and put the Steelers in their fourth conference championship game in Roethlisberger's seven years with the franchise.



"I'm very pleased," team owner Dan Rooney said as he made the rounds in the locker room late Saturday. "He's worked at it. He's doing what he has to do on the field and off."



Roethlisberger won't say it -- he has declined interview requests for stories that focus on him -- but it's clear that the whispers of his demise in Pittsburgh motivated him. He came to training camp slimmer and in possibly the best shape he's been in his career. He seemed to approach every game as a proving ground.



Roethlisberger was required to go through offseason counseling for what commissioner Roger Goodell called a "pattern of behavior" that damaged the integrity of the game. A year before the allegations of sexual assault in Milledgeville, Ga., a woman in Lake Tahoe filed a lawsuit claiming Roethlisberger sexually assaulted her at a hotel-casino in 2008.

People close to Roethlisberger call the Georgia incident an intense reality check. He knew, then, that he had to make changes. So he surrounded himself with a group of advisers, a team that included Art Rooney, Bill Cowher and former Pittsburgh running back Merril Hoge, now an NFL analyst for ESPN.



"He's human," said Roethlisberger's agent, Ryan Tollner. "He reached the point where he said to me, 'I'm OK if I never play another down of football so long as people perceive me to be a good person.'"



Maybe, Coen says, Roethlisberger underestimated Pittsburgh. It's true that the city measures success with playoff victories and Super Bowls. But it's about more than that.



People rarely leave here. Men hold doors open for women and check on their neighbors. People, Coen says, are nice to each other. They love their Steelers, worship them, and are heartsick if their quarterback isn't someone they can like. It should be noted that the most popular Steeler is Troy Polamalu, a game-changing safety who frequents a local children's hospital each week and gives his phone number to sick kids.



"The fans of Pittsburgh, they feel like the team is part of their family," Coen said. "When you walk down the street, someone looks you in the eye and says hello to you. That's the way this city is."

http://http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs/2010/columns/story?page=hotread19/BenRoethlisberger

Troyisabeast_43
01-20-2011, 05:44 PM
Ill admit I was one of the few people that wanted Ben gone after the 2nd stint back in April last year, but you can just see the change in Ben when he talks to the media, and how he acts on the field and when seen in public as well seeing that I know a few people that have ran into him on occasion. Ben has done everything that has been asked of him and then some I believe to change his image and he has made strides not only on the football field as a teammate and a leader in the locker room, but also in life as well as a person which is what is most important. I give big props to Big Ben and hopefully he can continue down the right path he is currently on right now...