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mwittman5
01-05-2011, 06:11 PM
keep hearing all this talk about the Pats underrated young D, their overrated big time. Lets look at the stats shall we:

Patriots: (rank in NFL)
rush yds allowed a game: 108
total yds allowed a game: 366
pass yds allowed a game: 258
pass TD's allowed: 25

Steelers:
rush yds allowed a game: 62 (1st in NFL)
total yds allowed a game: 276 (2nd)
pass yds allowed a game: 214 (12th)
pass TD's allowed: 15 (3rd)

so there you have it, the Pats D that the media is talking about is not even good.

Stairwayto7
01-05-2011, 06:28 PM
Im not worry about their D. Can our D stop their O??? I`m not so sure......

The scenario I want is, Ravens and Colts win. Ravens go to NE, we get the Colts. I think we have a better D than balt. but they match up better against NE. Hate to admit it but Brady has our number. Anyway we win Balt knocks off NE. Balt comes to us, we head to the SuperBowl again! All PA Superbowl

K Train
01-05-2011, 06:29 PM
yet brady has made a career out of owning our scheme.

Troyisabeast_43
01-05-2011, 06:34 PM
I agree with all those stats and everything you say there. The bottom line with the Patriots is it's quite simple if Tom Brady has a sub-par or bad game in the playoffs the odds are very very high that the Patriots are going to lose. Brady has been playing out of his mind ever since beating the Steelers and as I said in another thread a little while ago at some point there is going to be a hiccup along the way for Brady where things dont go well for him. Hopefully that game will be on January 23rd in Foxborough should the Steelers meet the Patriots in the AFC Championship game. The Patriots defense is not good enough to carry that team to victory though as those stats clearly point out. So as I just said if Brady has a bad game in the playoffs the Patriots will not win and you can pretty much take that to the bank I believe...

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Im not worry about their D. Can our D stop their O??? I`m not so sure......

The scenario I want is, Ravens and Colts win. Ravens go to NE, we get the Colts. I think we have a better D than balt. but they match up better against NE. Hate to admit it but Brady has our number. Anyway we win Balt knocks off NE. Balt comes to us, we head to the SuperBowl again! All PA Superbowl

I dont think the Ravens have what it takes to beat the Patriots the way Flacco and that offense is playing right now. They are too inconsistent and Flacco as we all know is a **** up at crunch time in the big games. So while I think the Ravens would give the Patriots a helluva battle I do not think they would beat them. Even if the Ravens dont beat the Patriots at the very least they will beat them up a great deal going into the AFC Championship game the next week if they indeed do play the Steelers...I agree with you though I want Indy next week coming here. Because even though Peyton Manning is still dangerous as hell, I think the Colts are just way too beat up and their injuries would catch up to them once and for all playing a well rested healthy Steelers team on the road. The Colts are not the same Colts team from years past and have struggled a great deal on the road this year and have barely been able to beat teams that arent very good the last month or so. I think the Steelers would handle the Colts and they might handle them without much of a problem should they meet next Saturday at Heinz Field...

K Train
01-05-2011, 06:40 PM
ravens match up way better with the patriots than the steelers do.

lucky for us the ravens and the jets both match up well with them and if either of them win one will definitely play the patriots in round two, while we play either the ravens/chiefs/colts

ravens/steelers afcc game is my ideal scenario, i dont think the ravens can beat the steelers in that kind of game...patriots almost certainly would unless dick has been saving up something special for the patriots and belichick for the last 6 years

BlitzburghRockCity
01-05-2011, 07:28 PM
The Patriots defense had those same similar sub par stats when we played them earlier this year and we couldn't do jack against them until the game was already out of reach. I don't have any doubt that our offense can go toe to toe with their offense, and quite honestly a shootout is the type of game I could see us playing against them if we do up meeting them again. I think our offense evolved enough that we can move the ball against them and put up points on the board when given the chance.

I think the revamped way that we play pass defense now will help the team against guys like Brady who love that short passing game. I don't know if it's the answer but it will certainly help.

lloydfan4life
01-05-2011, 07:49 PM
Call me a homer if you like, but I actually hope we meet the Pats in the AFC Championship game. NE has had our number for so long, if we're going to go for number 7 I prefer we do it by beating them. How sweet would it be to head to the Super Bowl after knocking NE out on their home turf? .... although hopefully Pittsburgh will not have shot their load in doing so and will still have something left for the big game.

yeah... I know there are other games to play first... but this is my ideal scenario. :greengrin:

Just my :2cents:

Goodfrom55
01-05-2011, 07:51 PM
Bottom line, to beat the Pats, the O-line must not get confused vs the blitz packages the Pats will run at them. PERIOD! it begins and ends here.

Offensively, they just don't make mistakes. So you have to accept they will put up 30 points and hope offensively, the Steelers can keep up with them. They separate themselves from other teams when other teams make mistakes and they don't. It gives them an extra posession or two which could lead to a 14 point swing. Perfect examples of this were the pick 6 and the Reed missed FG swung the game 10 points in favor of the pats, and the Steelers only lost by 13. They're like th '96 Yankees. There are no real all stars on the team (except for Brady), but collectively, they're very hard to beat.

steelersbabex25
01-05-2011, 07:56 PM
That's one advantage of getting absolutely massacred in the regular season. Now when we have to play that team in the post season, we know exactly what they're game plan is against us. Hopefully we'll be able to stop it.

Goodfrom55
01-05-2011, 08:02 PM
That's one advantage of getting absolutely massacred in the regular season. Now when we have to play that team in the post season, we know exactly what they're game plan is against us. Hopefully we'll be able to stop it.

Well let's hope the Steelers know what the Pats game plan is going to be. According to Keisel, the 1st time they played, they Steelers were expecting a balanced attack but got a 75/25 dose of pass run and were in Kiesel's words, "Unprepared" for New England that day.

LatrobePA
01-05-2011, 09:24 PM
To beat the pats you have to commit to the running the f'n ball, keeping TB off the field is key!

Blitz up the gut early and often, this long haired scrotum stroker hates pressure (unlike Ben).

BlitzburghRockCity
01-05-2011, 10:52 PM
The Patriots are vulnerable to the pass, their secondary is average at best. If you can give your QB time, they can be exposed. The problem is, and what happened to us the first time we played them, is that they are a good front 7 and can get after a QB. Add that to the fact that their offense is new flawless and puts up 30 points a game regularly so most time their defense can just pin their ears back and get after the QB because you become 1 dimensional trying to keep up.

SteelCityKid5
01-06-2011, 12:28 AM
More worried about our D vs their O

JensK
01-06-2011, 02:51 AM
I am honestly a little tired of hearing about Patriots. We have to win our first game before Patriots become relevant. We could run into Ravens, Colts and Chiefs. Ravens and Colts will probably take us to the wire, and i always fear a young team like the Chiefs in the playoffs.

Scorp
01-06-2011, 11:46 AM
Steelers can beat the Pats by pressuring the f-k out of Brady and covering the little guys he loves to throw to. The rookies will get exposed and crumble like cookies anyway so there goes that. Oh yeah and no turnovers and penalties then they would punch their one way ticket to Dallas.

BlitzburghRockCity
01-06-2011, 03:11 PM
I am honestly a little tired of hearing about Patriots. We have to win our first game before Patriots become relevant. We could run into Ravens, Colts and Chiefs. Ravens and Colts will probably take us to the wire, and i always fear a young team like the Chiefs in the playoffs.

Im quite tired of hearing about the Patriots in general, the media has been waving their flag all year long just like they always do. I know they are going to be tough to beat, especially at home but give it a rest already...ugh.

Scorp
01-06-2011, 05:26 PM
I just despise the Patriots period. I need to see Brady get hit and laid out like Montana did against the giants in 90.

greennick
01-06-2011, 09:22 PM
I am honestly a little tired of hearing about Patriots. We have to win our first game before Patriots become relevant. We could run into Ravens, Colts and Chiefs. Ravens and Colts will probably take us to the wire, and i always fear a young team like the Chiefs in the playoffs.

Agreed, we shouldn't be sucked into the media love for them. We both need to win a game to end up playing each other in the AFCCG, so let's wait for that to happen first.

coldrolled
01-07-2011, 05:30 AM
The Patriots are vulnerable to the pass, their secondary is average at best. If you can give your QB time, they can be exposed. The problem is, and what happened to us the first time we played them, is that they are a good front 7 and can get after a QB. Add that to the fact that their offense is new flawless and puts up 30 points a game regularly so most time their defense can just pin their ears back and get after the QB because you become 1 dimensional trying to keep up.

So we should be able to beat their crappy D.. 40-28...

in an afc score-fest. just like the tv gurus of the nfl want...

go steelers.. :cope::cope::cope:

UKSTEELER
01-07-2011, 06:49 AM
Sylvester would provide the best match-up against Gronk/Hernandez . . .

His speed, athleticism and height are light years ahead of Farrior . . .

Even Timmons had his hands full trying to cover NE's Tightends, couple that with Woodleys plodding nature, and Silverback's lack of height, we could struggle again!

I'd get Sly on the field in this one . . .

but ultimately it will come down to our offense to win this game for us.