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jpele
01-05-2011, 12:55 PM
Excellent read:

Dick LeBeau does not like to get embarrassed, especially on prime time television, but that is exactly what happened on November 14. Tom Brady and the New England Patriots shredded LeBeau's defense like Mexican cheese. LeBeau remembered all too vividly the previous time the Steelers played against Brady. The Patriots came out with a megaphone and yelled to him that they were not going to run the ball and were still going to carve him up like a Thanksgiving turkey. Even with that declaration of being one dimensional, Brady had a field day while the Patriots ran the ball exactly once per quarter.

Full story>>>HERE (http://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com/2011/1/5/1912967/the-day-dick-lebeau-turned-the-steelers-secondary-into-championship?)<<<

Farrior Fan
01-05-2011, 03:32 PM
Awesome read, thanks.

I ALMOST want to see the :helmet: play this weekend. Instead I will sit there and say "we would have stopped that run" 400 times. :tt02:

:tt02:ON TO RING #7 :tt02:

and oh yeah, Pele bring back the *** avatar

BlitzburghRockCity
01-05-2011, 03:48 PM
It is interesting that all during the first part of the season we were screaming (like always) for the DB's play closer coverage. Stop giving such a cushion and atleast put themselves in a position to try and make a play. We screamed at this because we know, as the article states, that a Lebeau defense is predicated on stopping the run and pressuring the QB. Always has been that way. The problem is of course that you leave yourself open to the short passing game, again like the article states.

With this adjustment, the DB's are in a better position to make more INT's or break up passes. Im not worried a whole lot about the long pass play, Ike is a good cover corner and BMac is decent vs the long ball. The stuff that worries me is the short passing game, or did worry me until we saw the pass defense start to improve. We know we can stop the run, but now there is hope that we can stop the pass effectively too, even if the pressure to the QB doesn't always get there.

Having said that, IF we get the chance to play the Patriots, you can bet Belichick will do his homework and see the change that our guys have done and find a way to counter it. It wouldn't surprise me one bit that if we play them again, it ends up being a shootout.

mwittman5
01-05-2011, 03:52 PM
this is why Lebeau is a hall of famer, you may fool him once in a season but you will not fool him twice. I noticed the bengals game was drastically different the second time. The first time TO had a big day and the bengals almost came back to win that game. The second time around the bengals couldn't do anything and TO was pretty quiet.

HUNT4SEVEN
01-05-2011, 03:58 PM
Yo that was a great read, thanks for posting, i really like our chances even before i read this article when and if we face the cheaters again, especially if Kiesel and Smith is on the d-Line, we didn't have either when we played the cheaters the last time...

pimplydan
01-05-2011, 05:46 PM
great read just pumped me up a notch as well . You know the saying :

AS THE GOING GETS TOUGH , THE TOUGH GETS GOING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Watch our steelers finish off this season on the stand with the Vince Lombardi ..



PIMP

Troyisabeast_43
01-05-2011, 06:07 PM
I for one am glad that Tom Brady has not had a bad game at all since he played in Cleveland, and has not thrown a INT in over 300 passes and broke the NFL record for that. I say this because as the old saying goes all good things MUST come to an end at some point and what better time for that saying to come true for Brady and the Patriots then in the AFC Championship game if these 2 teams are to meet again. Let's face it at some point or another there is going to be a hiccup along the way for Tom Brady and the Patriots, and they are not going to continue to dominate and blow everybody out that they face like they have been doing pretty much for the last 7-8 weeks. If the Patriots do win their playoff game next weekend and meet the Steelers in the AFC Championship game it will mean they would have won 9 in a row going back to their game that they beat the Steelers on November 14th and would have to win 10 games in a row to get to the Super Bowl. I dont care what anybody says that is a tough deal. Plus, everybody and their mother would pick the Patriots to win that game and I believe that is where the Steelers are at their most dangerous when they are the underdog and nobody picks them and gives them a chance which is what will happen if they play the Pats on January 23rd...

MattyVfromCT
01-05-2011, 06:41 PM
EXCELLENT READ! :plus1:

K Train
01-05-2011, 06:47 PM
yeah like i said before, i hope hes been holding something special for brady and belichick so he can go out with a bang and retire with another superbowl....brady 6-1 against the steelers and has shredded them in every game except the one in 04 when the pats were 8-0 and ben was a rookie

MDSteel15
01-05-2011, 06:51 PM
yeah like i said before, i hope hes been holding something special for brady and belichick so he can go out with a bang and retire with another superbowl....brady 6-1 against the steelers and has shredded them in every game except the one in 04 when the pats were 8-0 and ben was a rookie

Retire? What you talking about Willis? You know something I aint heard?

Steelers_All_Day_43
01-05-2011, 06:51 PM
Very good article! Love how LeBeau made changes. I never noticed any changes watching the past few games...

K Train
01-05-2011, 06:53 PM
Retire? What you talking about Willis? You know something I aint heard?

if they win another superbowl this year....im pretty sure dick, ward, farrior, and smith will be on their way out

Steelers_All_Day_43
01-05-2011, 06:59 PM
I for one am glad that Tom Brady has not had a bad game at all since he played in Cleveland, and has not thrown a INT in over 300 passes and broke the NFL record for that. I say this because as the old saying goes all good things MUST come to an end at some point and what better time for that saying to come true for Brady and the Patriots then in the AFC Championship game if these 2 teams are to meet again. Let's face it at some point or another there is going to be a hiccup along the way for Tom Brady and the Patriots, and they are not going to continue to dominate and blow everybody out that they face like they have been doing pretty much for the last 7-8 weeks. If the Patriots do win their playoff game next weekend and meet the Steelers in the AFC Championship game it will mean they would have won 9 in a row going back to their game that they beat the Steelers on November 14th and would have to win 10 games in a row to get to the Super Bowl. I dont care what anybody says that is a tough deal. Plus, everybody and their mother would pick the Patriots to win that game and I believe that is where the Steelers are at their most dangerous when they are the underdog and nobody picks them and gives them a chance which is what will happen if they play the Pats on January 23rd...Jamie Dukes last week already said Steelers have no chance vs the pats

andyg1984
01-05-2011, 07:49 PM
great read .. hope we are not too more vulnerable to the deep ball .. thank god moss (the version that cares) is not in NE anymore he could beat that coverage deep with brady all day ..

i must say that this may work better vs Brady and the smerfs tho ..

Goodfrom55
01-05-2011, 07:53 PM
Take away the TE's on defense and pick the blitz on offense and they are beatable.

Real Deal Steel
01-06-2011, 12:17 AM
I like the fact that we have a chip on our shoulder when it comes to the Pats. It will make our focus razor sharp if we have to see them in three weeks.

SteelCityKid5
01-06-2011, 12:31 AM
If we beat the Pats in the playoffs in New England... Im betting the house we take Super Bowl 45 and I am no gambler

DIESELMAN
01-06-2011, 06:44 PM
Excellent read:


Full story>>>HERE (http://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com/2011/1/5/1912967/the-day-dick-lebeau-turned-the-steelers-secondary-into-championship?)<<<

Great read!! Also with those repairs to our secondary are these stats.

Through the first nine games, the Steelers had a defensive passer rating of 85.6. But that passer rating in the last seven games after the NE game has been 53.7 as the Steelers finished at 73.1 overall, second in the league to the Green Bay Packers. The Steelers also finished first in fewest yards per attempt (6.3).

Those statistics are key pass-defense indicators, and in 2008 the Steelers also finished first in YPA and second in passer rating.

SteelDad
01-06-2011, 08:00 PM
Excellent read and tremendous analysis. Thanks for providing the article.

Guess I'm not as positive about this 'transformation' since 11/14 as some others around here are. While statistics certainly do not lie, I have a coupe fo things to point out.

1. Look at the opponents prior to the Pats game. Saints, Bengals, Falcons, Bucs, Ravens, Browns, Titans and the Fins. Several of these games saw our secondary get torched even in situations where we were ahead. (Cincy, Browns) So naturally our numbers would be higher with more passes being thrown and for bigger gains. Also, 3 of those are playoff teams while the Bucs won 10 games and Miami was arguably much better than their record with all of their close losses.

2. Following the Pats game, we only played 2 playoff teams in the Jets and the Ravens. 1-1 in those games and we played the Jets w/o TP so it is hard to truly analyze this.

3. Lastly, the article talks about LeBeau "tightening" up the corners and having Clark fill more on the inside. First of all, our corners continue to play so damn far off the ball you can sometimes not even see them in the picture and secondly, with Clark 'filling' did anyone notice how many big pass plays we gave up? I'm thinking of the Baltimore game in particular. Clark's lack of speed negates DL's tactic there at times so it really comes down to calling the right scheme at the right time.

My point is that while we have definitely made positive strides, I'm not exactly going to start planning a victory party should we meet the Pats in 3 weeks. We still have to control the ball, score TD's and not field goals, and play well on special teams. AND make Brady suffer and work for every damn yard!

UKSTEELER
01-07-2011, 05:54 AM
Sylvester would provide the best match-up against Gronk/Hernandez . . .

His speed, athleticism and height are light years ahead of Farrior . . .

Even Timmons had his hands full trying to cover NE's Tightends, couple that with Woodleys plodding nature, and Silverback's lack of height, we could struggle again!

I'd get Sly on the field in this one . . .

but ultimately it will come down to our offense to win this game for us.

BlitzburghRockCity
01-07-2011, 11:24 AM
Listening to Wolf and Tunch's radio show today they brought up a good point. Last year the DB's were dropping INT's left and right. Those missed turnover opportunities are game changers that we didn't capitalize on. No DB had more than 2 INT's each last year. This year the guys are making the catches and taking advantage of the opportunities when they come around. That's been a huge difference this year. Couple that with the pressure getting to the QB more this year than last year and you can see where the defense is playing at a much higher level and responsible as much as any unit on the field for our success so far in 2010.

Scorp
01-07-2011, 12:08 PM
Friday, January 07, 2011
By Ed Bouchette, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette



Three victories. They made the difference between the Steelers earning the No. 2 playoff seed in the AFC this season vs. missing the playoffs last season, between Mike Tomlin as candidate for NFL coach of the year this season vs. him firing coaches after last season, the difference between success and failure.

For all the Steelers did on offense, on defense, on special teams, the difference between their 9-7 record last season and their 12-4 record and return as AFC North champs boils down to one statistic: Turnovers.

Last season, the Steelers were minus-three in turnover differential. This season, they were plus-14, second best in the NFL. And, as any football coach or player will tell you, the biggest statistic other than the final score usually determines the final score: turnovers.

"Turnovers mean everything in winning or losing, especially all the games we played in that are close," said safety Troy Polamalu. "You take one away or you give one more, we could be a 3-13 team rather than a 12-4 team. That's the kind of ball that the Steelers play."

Polamalu led the resurgence in the Steelers' rate of interceptions. He tied his career-high with seven, which are most on the team in the past 15 years. The 21 produced were their most since 1996 and tied for fifth most in the league this season. That was a far cry from the 12 interceptions in 2009.

Conversely, quarterback Ben Roethlisberger had his lowest interception rate, throwing just five in 12 games with a total of nine from all their quarterbacks.

"Oh, yeah, it makes a difference, it definitely makes a difference," said defensive captain James Farrior. "It's a game-changing play when you get an interception. We did a good job when we got our hands on it."

No player could pinpoint why the team had so many more interceptions this season other than Polamalu's return for all but two games. But then, he had four interceptions last season in a limited role because of knee injuries.

All areas of the defense had their hand in it, too. Nine players had interceptions with Polamalu and defensive end Brett Keisel returning them for scores. Linebackers had six, safeties nine and cornerbacks five. Last season, no cornerback had an interception until the final game.

"We had a lot more pressure than we did last year," reasoned cornerback Ike Taylor, although their 48 quarterback sacks were just one more than last season.

"The secondary, we just got our hands on the ball. And you can't forget the linebackers, they got six."

Their 21 pickoffs nearly mirrored what they did the last time they won a Super Bowl. They had 20 two years ago, returning two for touchdowns as well -- not counting James Harrison's spectacular 100-yard return in the Super Bowl -- and Polamalu also had seven that season.

Polamalu explained that for the Steelers to get so many interceptions is not usual because of the style of defense they play. It's not a laid-back, constant two-deep safety play that always converges on a pass. The Steelers are more aggressive in trying to put pressure on the passer and stopping the run.

"We've always been here a very smothering style of football team," Polamalu said. "A team like Tampa Bay or the Indianapolis Colts really focus on turnovers, where a team like Baltimore or Green Bay Packers would be a mix of both.

"And, when you have that solid defense [like the Steelers], you don't have very much vision on the ball, you know. Whereas in the style of an Indianapolis Colts, everybody has vision on the ball, and they're just trying to make plays on the ball.

"So stylistically, it's tough for us to make plays on the ball. But, on the other end, when you get a lot of quarterback pressure, it forces a lot of bad decisions."



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