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Scorp
11-28-2010, 10:41 PM
One of the theories being discussed in the visitor’s locker room at Ralph Wilson Stadium had that surviving the Bills the way the Steelers did would help prepare them for this Sunday night’s showdown in Baltimore.

Linebacker James Farrior wasn’t buying it.

“Nothing gets you ready for Baltimore except Baltimore,” Farrior insisted following last Sunday’s 19-16 escape in overtime. “This game is always different from any other game.

“It’s gonna be one of those types of games. No other game can prepare you for this one.”

The game against the Bills almost defied description given all the twists and turns and controversial calls (the Steelers were penalized 10 times, including three holding penalties that were accepted against guard Chris Kemoeatu and another roughing the passer flag against linebacker James Harrison).

The game against the Ravens figures to play out in a much more conventional fashion, at least in terms of what’s accepted as conventional as it relates to Pittsburgh and Baltimore.

“This will be all-out war come Sunday night,” wide receiver Hines Ward predicted. “You don’t want to miss this one.

“This is the one you circle.”

That’s especially true for the Steelers after letting a late lead slip away and falling to the Ravens, 17-14, at Heinz Field, in the first meeting between the teams.

The rematch pits a couple of 8-3 teams against one another in a late-season battle for AFC North supremacy.

The Steelers appeared to be breezing their way toward their 8-3 half of that equation before letting a 13-0 second-half lead slip away.

They wound up requiring 12:36 of overtime before they were finally able to put the Bills away.

“We feel good because we got out of here with a win,” Ward said. “We’re starting to make strides in the right direction.

“We’re not playing good football, our best football, but what we had to overcome and go through (against the Bills), we can learn from it. I like the direction this team’s headed, especially in the month of December.”

Safety Ryan Clark took the Buffalo game for what it was worth _ a much-needed “W” _ heading into Baltimore.

“A game like this, winning it is what you have to do to make the playoffs,” he said. “It’s not always going to be pretty. We’re not going to dominate every team.

“But in order to get to the playoffs, in order to stack enough wins to get in the tournament, you have to come out on top in this one.”

Farrior was still chewing on how the last one against Baltimore had gotten away in the wake of the victory over Buffalo.

“We gave up a touchdown at the end, man,” he said about the 18-yard touchdown pass Joe Flacco threw to T.J. Houshmandzadeh with 32 seconds left in that game. “We’re definitely disappointed in that.”

Sunday’s rematch offers a chance to make amends, as well as assume control of the race for first place in the division.

“We’ll be ready,” Farrior said. “We’ll definitely be ready. And we know they’re gonna be ready.

“We’ll see what happens.”

DIESELMAN
11-29-2010, 05:45 AM
This is going to be a knock down drag out street fight!! This is what rivalries are all about, 2 competitive teams who hate each other with the division crown on the line. I am lovin this!!!

steelchamp204
11-29-2010, 07:30 AM
The ravens play us like the pats did. I think they will pass the ball about 75% of the time. Specially with us getting no pass rush on the qb and our dbs still havent showed they can stop the pass. If the recievers in the bills game would helped Fitz out. They woulda thrown all over us. And this is the bills. I really see Flacco doing some quick outs and slants most of the game cause we can ever stop them. Our defense needs to pick it up and we have been saying this for weeks. I dont think they can pick it up for the rest of the season. I think this is our ACTUAL defense playing now. I dont see us stepping it up either. And until woodley can start pressuring the qb, there just gonna dbl team harrison all day. I really hope im wrong on this but i think the ravens will beat us next week by two tds :(. We are just playing poorly right now on both sides of the ball.

LarryNJ
11-29-2010, 08:29 AM
I don't see that happening...Tom Brady is light years better than Flacco and the Pats really don't have anyone close to Ray Rice. If they do pass it 75% of the time we will have about 3 or 4 to's and win.

Scorp
11-29-2010, 10:23 AM
We're all in for a treat.

coldrolled
11-29-2010, 11:17 AM
We're all in for a treat.

hopefully not the same treat we had on the other sunday night games we played....

were 0-suck on sunday night.

Farrior Fan
11-29-2010, 11:36 AM
The ravens play us like the pats did. I think they will pass the ball about 75% of the time. Specially with us getting no pass rush on the qb and our dbs still havent showed they can stop the pass. If the recievers in the bills game would helped Fitz out. They woulda thrown all over us. And this is the bills. I really see Flacco doing some quick outs and slants most of the game cause we can ever stop them. Our defense needs to pick it up and we have been saying this for weeks. I dont think they can pick it up for the rest of the season. I think this is our ACTUAL defense playing now. I dont see us stepping it up either. And until woodley can start pressuring the qb, there just gonna dbl team harrison all day. I really hope im wrong on this but i think the ravens will beat us next week by two tds :(. We are just playing poorly right now on both sides of the ball.

I agree they will pass on us all day. 92 needs to focus on one thing and that is putting Flacco on his back several times. Any other use of 92 is a complete waste. We also need a big play (or 2 or 3) from Troy. Our O also has to be efficient. 3 and outs will kill us and we will eventually lose the field position game. We must establish the run somehow and shoot for Wallace early and often on bombs. If this doesn't work well then we must try it again and again. Bubble screens will be eaten alive and weak azz runs up the middle will be destroyed. Good luck O line:tt02:

Scorp
11-29-2010, 11:41 AM
hopefully not the same treat we had on the other sunday night games we played....

were 0-suck on sunday night.

Steelers will be ready and foaming at the mouth to get that win and get closer to home field advantage. :yellowthumb:

Troyisabeast_43
11-29-2010, 12:23 PM
hopefully not the same treat we had on the other sunday night games we played....

were 0-suck on sunday night.

I was thinking about this as well and how the Steelers have lost their last 2 games both being on Sunday night. However, I dont think the Steelers will play as poorly as they did in New Orleans and here against the Patriots when they go to Baltimore on Sunday night. I have a hard time seeing the Steelers losing 3 Sunday night primetime games in one season. They usually play well in these games and win them and they are about due to get a win and play well on Sunday night and I think this week against the Ravens when it will matter the most is when it will happen...

Moondog
11-29-2010, 02:11 PM
Why not go into a hurry up if you are the Steelers? The Bucs went to it too late against Baltimore but were effective when they did. The Ravens have not beat a Ben led Steeler team since 2006, I say put the ball in the hands of the franchise and have at it.

Troyisabeast_43
11-29-2010, 03:49 PM
Why not go into a hurry up if you are the Steelers? The Bucs went to it too late against Baltimore but were effective when they did. The Ravens have not beat a Ben led Steeler team since 2006, I say put the ball in the hands of the franchise and have at it.

I agree but you know damn well that Tomlin and Arians will not do this for whatever unknown reason. They will still feel the need that you need to be able to run the football with Mendenhall against the Ravens defense to keep them honest. With this patched up offensive line the way it is right now Arians has a lot of work to do to prepare this Steelers offense to win this game in Baltimore. You gotta roll the dice a little bit in this game and go with the no huddle more times then not and spread the Ravens out much like Im sure they will do to the Steelers. The Ravens secondary can be had and can get big plays made on it. I agree put Ben in shotgun and make him go 4-5 wide majority of the time to give him more time to throw the football. The offensive line is really going to have to step up this week as bad as it has been and play their best game of the year. If the Steelers offensive line just plays average and gives up only 2 sacks or so this game then I think they have done a good job and the Steelers chance of winning in Baltimore will increase a great deal...

SteelDad
11-29-2010, 04:59 PM
My very early week thoughts on how I would approach this game are these: (I stress that these are MY thoughts and not what I'm expecting the coaches to do.)

1. Come out in the no huddle with 4 wide and look for short routes and crossing routes much in the same way NE does to us. Baltimore's corners will be more aggressive than ours and this could open up the running game. Ray-Ray's tired *** can't keep up if we keep attacking the middle of the field.

2. Do not automatically assume the Ravens will come out throwing. It is one thing to beat your rival and it is another thing to humiliate them by doing exactly what no one else has. Harbaugh will not abandon the running game as long as the game is tight or he has a lead. Flacco cannot pick us apart the way Brady or Brees can either.

Remember folks, all we needed was 1 first down against these guys in September and it was ball game. Give Flacco credit for driving them to the winning score, but I still don't buy him being an elite QB at all.

Troyisabeast_43
11-29-2010, 07:22 PM
My very early week thoughts on how I would approach this game are these: (I stress that these are MY thoughts and not what I'm expecting the coaches to do.)

1. Come out in the no huddle with 4 wide and look for short routes and crossing routes much in the same way NE does to us. Baltimore's corners will be more aggressive than ours and this could open up the running game. Ray-Ray's tired *** can't keep up if we keep attacking the middle of the field.

2. Do not automatically assume the Ravens will come out throwing. It is one thing to beat your rival and it is another thing to humiliate them by doing exactly what no one else has. Harbaugh will not abandon the running game as long as the game is tight or he has a lead. Flacco cannot pick us apart the way Brady or Brees can either.

Remember folks, all we needed was 1 first down against these guys in September and it was ball game. Give Flacco credit for driving them to the winning score, but I still don't buy him being an elite QB at all.

I still think that Ben Roethlisberger playing in this game as opposed to the first game will be the ex-factor and the reason the Steelers win this time. Ben knows how to win these kinds of games and he knows how to make plays at key times during these games to win them. Not to use the last game in Pittsburgh as an excuse but had he been in there that game instead of Charlie Batch the Steelers most likely win. But he wasnt and it is what it is but that game on October 3rd that Flacco pulled out doesnt mean anything now. He will have to do it again come Sunday night in Baltimore or nobody will remember what he did here back in Pittsburgh 2 months ago it will all be forgotten...

Goodfrom55
11-29-2010, 08:02 PM
Ravens' gameplan will involve many 3 step drops and release to receivers underneath. . .BUT if the Steelers play more aggressive coverage on the corners and Timmons / Troy take away Heap, this will force Flacco to "force" passes into the middle and create turnover opportunities. None of the Ravens receivers are speedsters that warrant a 10 yard cushion, so if they play more press coverage, this should help the Steelers take away the punch and judy passes and also give Harrison / Woody a second or 2 longer to get to Flacco. Plus, Oher is injured and might not be at 100% when going up against #92.

Bucsfan4ever
11-29-2010, 08:25 PM
PLEASE PLEASE beat the Ratbirds, run the score up on them and shove it down their throats. The following is a post on one of my Bucs board.....


"Mike Preston of the Baltimore Sun is an a--hole...

He writes The BUCS arent serious contenders and the RAVENS controlled the game from start to finish. He stated the RAVENS shoved the ball down the BUCS throat.

THIRD DOWN CONVERSIONS BUCS 6--16 RAVENS 3--12
SACS BUCS GOT 4 RAVENS GOT 0
FIRST DOWNS BUCS 14 RAVENS 18
FUMBLES BUCS 0 RAVENS 1

This is not what I call complete control and shoving the ball down the BUCS throat!"


I concede that we're not serious contenders but they got their 17 points in the second quarter and then no more!! My Rant!!! :evilshake:

Goodfrom55
11-29-2010, 11:11 PM
Have to be careful with 4-5 wide sets. If you remember last time, when the Steelers did this, the Ravens automatically brought blitzes which the Steelers couldn't handle and the WR's didn't read and change to hot routes. Things might be different with Ben back there, but to beat the Ravens, gotta take care of the football and move the chains. . .oh, and convert makeable FG's. . .

coldrolled
11-30-2010, 08:45 AM
As the Ravens enter their week of preparation for the AFC North rival Pittsburgh Steelers, don’t expect a flood of information about the team’s injuries.

In his Monday press conference, Ravens Head Coach John Harbaugh remained mum on injured starters Le’Ron McClain (ankle), Michael Oher (knee) and Dawan Landry (concussion).

“We’ll see,” Harbaugh told reporters. “We’ll just take a look at them and see how they respond over the next two days and see where we are.

“That’s all you’re getting.”

jnes1216
11-30-2010, 09:39 AM
Ravens' gameplan will involve many 3 step drops and release to receivers underneath. . .BUT if the Steelers play more aggressive coverage on the corners and Timmons / Troy take away Heap, this will force Flacco to "force" passes into the middle and create turnover opportunities. None of the Ravens receivers are speedsters that warrant a 10 yard cushion, so if they play more press coverage, this should help the Steelers take away the punch and judy passes and also give Harrison / Woody a second or 2 longer to get to Flacco. Plus, Oher is injured and might not be at 100% when going up against #92.

The only thing that worries me is if B-Mac is out (or not quite 100%) then LeBeau will not play the corners closer to the line. I know the "standard of play doesn't change with 2nd stringers" stuff, but if he consistently plays B-Mac off then it won't change.

Timmons has to shadow Ray Rice imo

jpele
11-30-2010, 09:53 AM
The only thing that worries me about this game are penalties, if we make the same mistakes as the past two weeks the Ravens win easy.

I know most of the calls are BS but we have to be disciplined in the game.

coldrolled
11-30-2010, 04:12 PM
mcclain must be out for the game and longer...

Ravens to Sign FB Jason McKie
Free agent fullback Jason McKie has reportedly signed with the Baltimore Ravens.

New Orleans Saints defensive end Alex Brown, McKie's former teammate with the Chicago Bears and Saints, congratulated McKie via Twitter.

The Ravens are scrambling for a fullback after Le'Ron McClain injured his ankle during Sunday's 17-10 win over the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. The Ravens will need to make a corresponding transaction to officially sign McKie, but no announcement has been made at this time.

coach
11-30-2010, 10:17 PM
When we played the rats last time our D ends were both playing and the O line wasn't as injured as today. I am not sure that the Rtas are good as some pople think but I think the Steelers are not as good as some people think while we rely on 2nd and 3rd team players.

I hope we win, but if we don't I think the loser still makes the palyoffs as a wild card team. I am having a hard time figuring the team out this year. One week, I think they are great, another week I get mad at the coaches, and then I can'tfigure out if they have the horses to win against good teams in the 4th quarter.

Every year you get lucky/unlucky with calls by refs or injuries, etc. This year, we could actually (and easily) have two more losses as we got a good call in Miami and Sweed resurfaced in a Bills uni on Sunday.

I personally felt really confident a month ago that we would go to Baltimore and smack the snot out of them. I am actually nervous now. :crossfingers: