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JensK
10-23-2010, 08:57 PM
So, I see a lot of mock drafts at the moment sending this fella to Steelers. He is listed as DE/DT, however i doubt they'll ever use him as DT as he is only listed at 283. As i can only access one game a week in Denmark, I have yet to see him play, so I would love some info on the kid, and know whether or not he is a 3-4 DE, or another Ziggy-ish player.

Edit:

While browsing over some more mocks i fell over this mock:

http://www.footballsfuture.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=405477

I know it would make me jizz... I know it aint happening at all, but still...

Black@Gold Forever32
10-23-2010, 10:04 PM
I can't see the Steelers going offense the first three picks.......I would love the pick of Baldwin and would go ape **** if he ends up a Steeler.....

I would like to see a DE addressed early in the draft since Ziggy Hood isn't showing much....I think its a solid year for 3-4 DE but a terrible year for 3-4 NTs......

Allen Bailey from Miami, Cameron Heyward from Ohio State, Nick Fairley from Auburn are all 3-4 DEs and probably will be first round picks......Cameron Jordan, Cal and
JJ Watt, Wisconsin are two other 3-4 DE's whose stock could rise come NFL draft time.......

If the Steelers don't take a WR early....I really like DeAndre Brown from Southern Miss........A WR I have seen play multiple times on tv is Tandon Doss from Indiana.....I live in Indiana so I know all about this guy...He constantly has made plays for the Hoosiers this year when I have watched......Don't know if he just a product of the system at IU since Indiana passes the ball over the field with QB, Ben Chappell.......But I have been impressed with Doss......

super cleats
10-24-2010, 06:16 AM
Why would we select a wide receiver in round one, that guy is retarded, he doesn't deserve to have a computer to spew his crap on the net.

Farrior Fan
10-24-2010, 06:42 AM
Why would we select a wide receiver in round one, that guy is retarded, he doesn't deserve to have a computer to spew his crap on the net.

I agree that we do not appear to need a WR right now but man the guy is just sharing his opinion. That said Hines isn't going to last more than 2-3 more seasons. We don't know how Brown and Sanders will pan out yet but the future looks bright. That leave Wallace as the only sure thing over the next 5 years.

I would love to see us draft a top notch safety right now. Clark is a great intimidator but not so good at coverage. Troy is awesome but if he goes down with an injury...well 09 was not so kind to us. Get a great S now and let him learn the system. He will be ready to rock in 2012.

I also KNOW that we need a lot of help on the OL. Pouncey has looked great thus far but for us to build another great team we need more than a great center. I hope we go OL with our 1st and 2nd rounders.

But at the end of the day you know that we will draft the best available. Hey I won't complain if we draft 32nd! :tt02:

JensK
10-24-2010, 08:31 AM
Why we would select a WR? Well, Hines is most certainly not getting younger, Wallace is (so far) a one-trick pony, and we do not know what we have in Sanders and Brown yet. A great WR would most certainly be a decent pick imo. Besides, it have us going with Mike Pouncey in the second, and Noel Devine in the third would be nothing short of amazing.

Blazedby92
10-24-2010, 09:52 AM
Why would we select a wide receiver in round one, that guy is retarded, he doesn't deserve to have a computer to spew his crap on the net.

Exactly what I was thinking, You can keep those mocks to yourself because one a WR?


Why we would select a WR? Well, Hines is most certainly not getting younger, Wallace is (so far) a one-trick pony, and we do not know what we have in Sanders and Brown yet. A great WR would most certainly be a decent pick imo. Besides, it have us going with Mike Pouncey in the second, and Noel Devine in the third would be nothing short of amazing.

I don't get it you call Wallace a "one-trick pony" and your one of the guys that said Sweed was going to be the savior after 3 failed years of sucking his balls. :lol: Told you so, you already have forgotten Sweed so Wallace must be doing something right to keep the Sweed lovers at bay.
We don't need WR we need a DL or Safety because you said yourself Ziggy sux and apparentlly your know exactly what this team needs.:popcorn:

Black@Gold Forever32
10-24-2010, 10:24 AM
You draft best player available regardless except for QB......I don't care if the Steelers pick OL, DL, WR, LB, S, CB.....Just as long it is best player available.........

Of course I would like to see a stud 3-4 DE or a stud OT drafted but if the best trench guys are taken and a WR like Baldwin is there then I would have no problem with it......I like Mike Wallace as much as any Steelers fan but I do have some questions about him......Is Wallace going to be a number 1 WR one day?......I see Wallace always as a solid number 2......

I like the potential of both Sanders and Brown........But still you can never have enough weapons for your QB especially since Ben is still in his prime.......

JensK
10-24-2010, 04:28 PM
Exactly what I was thinking, You can keep those mocks to yourself because one a WR?



I don't get it you call Wallace a "one-trick pony" and your one of the guys that said Sweed was going to be the savior after 3 failed years of sucking his balls. :lol: Told you so, you already have forgotten Sweed so Wallace must be doing something right to keep the Sweed lovers at bay.
We don't need WR we need a DL or Safety because you said yourself Ziggy sux and apparentlly your know exactly what this team needs.:popcorn:

I always enjoy your posts a lot. Always trying to attempt flaming someone if possible.

So far, all Wallace have done is to run ****ing fast. That is awesome, and he is most likely the fastest WR in the NFL, but that is what we've seen from him so far. I don't claim its bad, but that is what he do. He have even said so him self, that so far that is what they have been using him for. I have hardly forgotten Sweed, and I still think he can be a good WR in the NFL, but he is injured at the moment, as I have to assume you know. I also don't see him getting more chances with the Steelers, as they did draft two WRs. That does not change that I still think he'll be good somewhere, but I am just not going to count him in anymore.

Sure, we need a DE, which is also why I asked a question about a player, and then i explained why i thought that picking a WR is not a bad pick at all.

As for me knowing about the teams needs - Do you? Do you know better than me? The internet must really be a frustrating place for you, if you get pissed every time someone have an opinion that someone does not :thinking:

Black@Gold Forever32, do you think there is any OT worth taking this year so far? From what I am hearing, the OT class is pretty weak compared to last year.

K Train
10-25-2010, 01:39 PM
Why would we select a wide receiver in round one, that guy is retarded, he doesn't deserve to have a computer to spew his crap on the net.

because this is an epic WR class, (except baldwin he will flop) but if they could get julio or floyd it would be amazing...ward is so old, wallace ONLY catches the deep ball hes not a route runner and hes a pussy...theres a reason why he has only 2-3 catches a game.

brown and sanders look like solid #3s, maybe 2s but not much more. ward isnt even a true #1, hes a glorified slot WR, wouldnt it be nice to have a stud #1 for once?

Blazedby92
10-25-2010, 01:49 PM
because this is an epic WR class, (except baldwin he will flop) but if they could get julio or floyd it would be amazing...ward is so old, wallace ONLY catches the deep ball hes not a route runner and hes a pussy...theres a reason why he has only 2-3 catches a game.

brown and sanders look like solid #3s, maybe 2s but not much more. ward isnt even a true #1, hes a glorified slot WR, wouldnt it be nice to have a stud #1 for once?

It's worked so far so no I don't really care for a DIVA.

So what if he isn't a great route runner he can catch and get open, we once had a so called great receiver that could run GREAT routes but couldn't catch I think the latter is better.

K Train
10-25-2010, 01:52 PM
so stud WR means diva? even the great hines ward has held out for more money and bitched and moaned when we drafted a WR high...he'll be moving on soon and no one will be able to get the catches he does except miller because wallace is soft and brown and sanders are tiny

calvin johnson is in a league of his own when it comes to ability and hes not a diva by any means and honestly the top 5 WRs in this draft all check out fine for divaism

coach
10-25-2010, 04:51 PM
:tt02:Its a bit early to pick who will be where, but I think DE and WR look to be well represented this upcoming draft class. I am guessing more teams will prioritize DE than WR as the WRs usually fall a bit, but you never know.

I wonder if the Steelers still like Sweed (I know he hasn't put anything on tape but drops [except for one good hit])? If so, I can't see them taking a WR in the first, without giving him one last chance, which means he will still be on the roster at that time. If they release him after his injury and rehab, anything is possible then. Nobody saw us taking Mendy and Sweed a couple years ago.

Whoever we get, hope it's a home run like Pouncey again.

Interestingly, some injuries this week may expose where we need the most help and this may start people thinking about position players. If our back-ups can't back up (not to mention spot start), the focus may change. I think the Steelrs will take best player on their board, but if it is close, they may lean toward an area where we have a need.

I have started watching more college football and can't wait to get the draft chatter going again. For now, I hope we pick real late in the draft.:tt02:

andyg1984
10-28-2010, 09:48 PM
i will have to say that i think julio jones is worth moving up for, not just taking if he is there and should be a legitimate consideration ... only slightly behind DE, FS, CB in terms of guys worth moving up for ..

it always is about return on investment and julio jones underneath/after the catch and wallace deep would be insane with the pouncey/mendenhall growth factor ..

Black@Gold Forever32
10-29-2010, 05:29 PM
I always enjoy your posts a lot. Always trying to attempt flaming someone if possible.

So far, all Wallace have done is to run ****ing fast. That is awesome, and he is most likely the fastest WR in the NFL, but that is what we've seen from him so far. I don't claim its bad, but that is what he do. He have even said so him self, that so far that is what they have been using him for. I have hardly forgotten Sweed, and I still think he can be a good WR in the NFL, but he is injured at the moment, as I have to assume you know. I also don't see him getting more chances with the Steelers, as they did draft two WRs. That does not change that I still think he'll be good somewhere, but I am just not going to count him in anymore.

Sure, we need a DE, which is also why I asked a question about a player, and then i explained why i thought that picking a WR is not a bad pick at all.

As for me knowing about the teams needs - Do you? Do you know better than me? The internet must really be a frustrating place for you, if you get pissed every time someone have an opinion that someone does not :thinking:

Black@Gold Forever32, do you think there is any OT worth taking this year so far? From what I am hearing, the OT class is pretty weak compared to last year.

DeMarcus Love from Arkansas is my favorite OT in this class......He has the tools but he hasn't put it all together yet.........But I think he could be one of the late blooming players.....Right now Love is anywhere from a 2nd to 4th round pick....But I think he could be one of those players that shoot up draft boards......

Derek Sherrod in my opinion would be the best OT to fit our offensive system..........Sherrod right now I would say is a late first round pick....Its not a great year for OTs by no means.......

I live in Indiana and have seen some Indiana games this year......James Brewer the mammoth OT from Indiana has impressed me somewhat and a player I would take a chance on the 2nd day of the draft.....

Phdboy2020
10-29-2010, 11:41 PM
I think we need to go secondary with our first pick in the draft. Taylor seems to struggle at times and could prolly use someone to push him for his position. However, at this point in the season, it is hard to evaluate corners b/c it seems no one is having any monster years, but if I had to pick, I would prolly say Janoris Jenkins from UF. He is very talented and would work well in our scheme. Looking forward to how he does against the best receiver in the NCAA right now in AJ Green this weekend.

--- Added 10/29/2010 at 10:41 PM ---

Although we dont need a receiver in this class, AJ Green would be the man the trade up for. Julio Jones is a great player but he is no AJ Green. We really dont have to worry about trading up for anyone b/c that is not what the steelers do. We usually take the best available player at our position.

JensK
10-30-2010, 05:46 AM
We would most likely have to loose the rest of your games to be in a position to be able to even trade for Green tbh. He could very well go first overall if he keeps healthy

andyg1984
10-30-2010, 08:59 AM
yep, that is why i think julio makes a case if he slips .. if we trade up that high i would rather have patrick peterson ..

Phdboy2020
10-30-2010, 02:01 PM
I would love it Patrick Peterson fell to us that far. He is a once in a blue moon talent. Plus he's a big physical guy that we would be able to put on an island. That would enable our from 7 to do what they do. In addition, Troy could have more freedom to play in the box instead of having to help our corners all the time.

Callax
10-31-2010, 09:36 AM
Next draft, Pitt needs DL (MOST IMPORTANT)
CB WR (hines replacement) Safety depth

mcfly06
11-15-2010, 01:18 AM
What about Curtis Brown Corner From Texas?6'0 runs a 4.5 forty;Prince Amukamara from Nebraska 6'1 runs a 4.45 forty.After tonights game we need CB help,Oline and Dline to get younger and add depth mainly at CB and maybe a WR in the middle rounds.

K Train
11-15-2010, 02:00 PM
brown is a possibility....prince will be longgggggg gone though

i personally would like brandon harris

Phdboy2020
11-18-2010, 06:09 PM
I really would like a corner that could be called a "shutdown" corner such as Darelle Revis and N.A. Brown would be an ok pick, but I really think he would be available when we pick in the second round. It really depend on how he does in the Combine. Jimmy Smith from Colorado and Ras-I Dowling from Virginia would be great picks in the second round as well. Safety is another concern for our defense, Deunta Williams from NC, DeAndre McDaniel (Clemson), and Ahmad Black/Will Hill from Florida would be great picks as well.

JensK
11-19-2010, 07:13 AM
I think most people see Ras-I Dowling as a NFL safety.

K Train
11-19-2010, 12:42 PM
dowling is this years malcolm jenkins or antrel rolle....he will probably get a shot at corner but have to move to FS