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Troyisabeast_43
08-15-2010, 03:07 PM
You gotta believe the odds of EL not making this roster have definitely increased with the performances last night of both Sanders and Brown. Now I still think they will keep Randle El around just to have another veteran presence on the receiving core. But if Sanders and Brown continue to blow people away with their speed and play making abilities Tomlin will have a hard hard time not putting both Sanders and Brown ahead of Randle El on the depth chart. I still think El is safe but I would not entirely bet my house on him making this roster as a 100 percent lock. I think Stefan Logan is going to have to show a lot more then just being a kick returner for him to make this team with the emergence of both Sanders and Brown. This receiving core with guys like Hines,Wallace,Miller,and Sanders and Brown really has the potential to be special and make people forget about Santanio Holmes real fast...

Black@Gold Forever32
08-15-2010, 03:20 PM
I would say El is gone for sure.....Battle can at least play on the kick coverage teams and is a vet WR.........El in his prime was just a solid number 3 WR at best and offers nothing in the return game these days......

As for the rooks this team needs their speed and play making ability........I would want both of these guys to make the team over El and Battle.......

If Sanders or Brown can show they can handle kick/punt returns then Logan will be gone as well.....But first Sanders and Brown have to be given the chance to return kicks.......

DanRooney
08-15-2010, 04:26 PM
You guys are both wrong. Tomlin is a pussy and the Steelers FO doesn't run like that. Randle El will be a cancer to this team as the #3 receiver until we lose about 5 games.

HUNT4SEVEN
08-15-2010, 06:02 PM
You guys are both wrong. Tomlin is a pussy and the Steelers FO doesn't run like that. Randle El will be a cancer to this team as the #3 receiver until we lose about 5 games.

Same with that bum @$$ Hartpig:cursin: every snap he was in Essex had to help him and they couldn't run up the middle, When Pouncey came in they were running the ball up the middle, now common sense would tell u to just put Pouncey with the 1's and live with the small mistakes he will make, but like u said it will take them 6 games to figure out Pouncey should have been the starter since game one:cursin:

Now if AB and ES are the real deal and it looks like they are they both have hand and speed, it would make sense to keep them and let Battle and El go, but knowing the way the FO have operated lately they will probably try to sneak AB on the practice squad and we would lose him to another team...

nuclearchihuahuas
08-15-2010, 06:17 PM
I don't think we need El or Battle--we've got awesome young receivers and Ward can teach them everything they need to know! :2cents:

DanRooney
08-15-2010, 06:19 PM
I don't think we need El or Battle--we've got awesome young receivers and Ward can teach them everything they need to know! :2cents:

We need one or the other, not both. Randle El is just a poor man's version of Ward so there's no sense whatsoever in keeping him on the team. At least Battle can contribute to STs.

nuclearchihuahuas
08-15-2010, 06:20 PM
We need one or the other, not both. Randle El is just a poor man's version of Ward so there's no sense whatsoever in keeping him on the team. At least Battle can contribute to STs.

I can go with that--BTW why don't you like Tomlin?

Black@Gold Forever32
08-15-2010, 06:25 PM
We need one or the other, not both. Randle El is just a poor man's version of Ward so there's no sense whatsoever in keeping him on the team. At least Battle can contribute to STs.

Ok I'm confused you tell me I'm wrong then mention Battle can contribute on special team which I pointed out in my post...lol

The Steelers don't need El or Battle.....But if one is kept then it should be Battle since he can play on the kick coverage teams....

El filled his role this training camp in helping mentor the rookies but its looking like Sanders/Brown are ready to at least contribute somewhat this year so I say bye bye El......If Sanders or Brown prove they can return kicks as well then Logan will be gone as well.....

Troyisabeast_43
08-15-2010, 06:25 PM
You guys are both wrong. Tomlin is a pussy and the Steelers FO doesn't run like that. Randle El will be a cancer to this team as the #3 receiver until we lose about 5 games.

If Tomlin wants to win games he will do that and after the season he had last season where he refused to make changes on the defense he is in no position to play the keep the veteran guy around. As long as Ben comes back and plays well and stays healthy which he should be, and the defense has no severe injuries to guys like Troy or Aaron Smith once again there will be no excuse at all for this Steelers team to not having a pretty good record and make the playoffs...This defense with guys like BMac back and having Troy as well along with the emergence of Lewis, and Woodley playing with a chip on his shoulder should get back to playing dominating defense...If Sanders and Brown keep doing what they are doing Tomlin will have no choice but to keep both of them and part ways with both EL and Battle...

coldrolled
08-15-2010, 06:25 PM
El will make some other teams roster. battle is the keeper...

Zachintosh66
08-15-2010, 06:35 PM
wouldnt be surprised to them roll with 6 wrs...

greg1964
08-15-2010, 07:27 PM
I was glad to see what Sanders and Brown did yesterday, but it just the 1st PRE-SEASON folks. IF they continue to show as the did yesterday and in camp, the we can start thinking about who looses their jobs. I for one think both Sanders and Brown will make the 53 man team, but the real question is who will get a hat come the start of the season. If either can return kick-offs and punt, THEN I can see Logan will lose his job. Randle-El is safe because the Steelers will keep five
receivers. (Ward, Wallace, Sanders, Brown and El)

BUT the Steelers have other questions to answer: Who is the backup running back. Mendenhall is the starter provide he can hold onto the ball. Moore is the only other vet. on the team. Redmen is make a case to make this team. And Summers is the only FB on the roster. But if Tomlin use OL as an fullback the Summers can be the odd man out.

I have to review the tape, but if Pouncey can handle the center position, it going to make it hard for coach Tomlin to keep him off the bench. From what I saw, Butler, Lewis, look like keepers, Gibson and LB 47/48 (done remember there names) was in on a lot of plays.

Bring on the Gaints:

Troyisabeast_43
08-15-2010, 08:03 PM
Steelers need to watch that new turf surface at the new Giants Stadium next weekend I heard it's been tearing a lot of players knees and injuring guys constantly...Knock on wood that no serious injuries occur during next's weekend's game...

DanRooney
08-15-2010, 08:20 PM
Ok I'm confused you tell me I'm wrong then mention Battle can contribute on special team which I pointed out in my post...lol

The Steelers don't need El or Battle.....But if one is kept then it should be Battle since he can play on the kick coverage teams....

El filled his role this training camp in helping mentor the rookies but its looking like Sanders/Brown are ready to at least contribute somewhat this year so I say bye bye El......If Sanders or Brown prove they can return kicks as well then Logan will be gone as well.....

Nah I was just disagreeing with the El is gone for sure statement. I agree with what you want to happen though 100 percent :yellowthumb: El really does nothing for this team.

okiesteeler
08-15-2010, 09:28 PM
Hey guys!!!! It has been a long time since i have been here, but I also agree that El and battle need to go, i was real impressed with Sanders and Browns speed.

steelersbabex25
08-15-2010, 10:41 PM
I want Sanders in that #3 spot. Him combined with Mike Wallace could do some serious damage.

BlitzburghRockCity
08-15-2010, 11:01 PM
Personally I don't think there's any way that El doesn't make this team. Let's face it, you've Ward who we know will make it and contribute. Then you have 2 rookies who are showing potential and flashes of good things to come but are still unproven when it really counts. We've seen them do good things in camp and some good things against 2nd and 3rd tier defenses from the Lions. Wallace in his 2nd year should step up and be even better than last year but it's no guarantee. I would say your 5 WR's are Ward, Wallace, El, Sanders, and Brown. If they keep 6 then of course Battle. I like that Battle can play ST so it would be a toss up between those 2 but I still think ARE has a good chance.

BlacknGold Bleeder
08-15-2010, 11:27 PM
Last I heard nobody makes the team on one preseason game...

Black@Gold Forever32
08-15-2010, 11:34 PM
Personally I don't think there's any way that El doesn't make this team. Let's face it, you've Ward who we know will make it and contribute. Then you have 2 rookies who are showing potential and flashes of good things to come but are still unproven when it really counts. We've seen them do good things in camp and some good things against 2nd and 3rd tier defenses from the Lions. Wallace in his 2nd year should step up and be even better than last year but it's no guarantee. I would say your 5 WR's are Ward, Wallace, El, Sanders, and Brown. If they keep 6 then of course Battle. I like that Battle can play ST so it would be a toss up between those 2 but I still think ARE has a good chance.

Top Gun, really what does Randle El bring to the table at this point in his career?......He isn't in his prime anymore and when he was in his prime he was a number 3 WR at best......I know we won the Super Bowl with El as a number 2 but that was five years ago.......He doesn't offer anything in the return game anymore.....

I liked the fact they brought El back to be a mentor for the rookies during training camp and I think he has been so far for Sanders/Brown.......I would be for El making the team as well if the rookies looked lost and at least a year away from contributing......But these rookies seem like they learning the offense at a Mike Wallace rate or even faster which is do the fact that college offenses are similar to NFL offenses these days.....

Sanders runs great routes and caught a ton of balls in college.....Brown has swagger and is explosive after the catch......I know its early the process here but after Mike Wallace last year I'm confident these rookies can make plays for this team this year......

Another point its not like they be asked to be starters this year.....We all know Ward and Wallace are number 1 and 2.........So Brown and Sanders will be asked to be number 3 and 4........

Plus back in 2002 a certain rookie wasn't expected to be the slot guy heading into the season....The Steelers had a vet in Terrance Mathis and he looked to be the slot guy....The rookie that beat out Mathis was Randle El.......:lol: Eight years later its looking a rookie might do the same to El.......

Now if injury happens to Ward or Wallace then keep El on speed dial....I don't think teams will be beating down his door to sign him......Finally I rather keep Battle if they do keep a vet WR for depth since he can help the kick coverage teams......

xxxsteelernation
08-15-2010, 11:57 PM
Ok if randle el don't make the roster then Let's get rid of batch too. and lefty

SteelCityKid5
08-15-2010, 11:59 PM
1 preseason game people. Tomlin wont have our WR corps be that young that soon and rightfully so. These guys were making players vs 2nd and 3rd string players. They havent necessarily played against the 1st team talent nor have they gone through the rigors of one NFL season. El is good for now maybe not so much next year.

Black@Gold Forever32
08-16-2010, 12:23 AM
1 preseason game people. Tomlin wont have our WR corps be that young that soon and rightfully so. These guys were making players vs 2nd and 3rd string players. They havent necessarily played against the 1st team talent nor have they gone through the rigors of one NFL season. El is good for now maybe not so much next year.

Ok well I don't recall Wille Reid, Fred Gibson tearing it up against 2nd and 3rd stringers when they were rookies.....

El really doesn't offer much as a WR anymore at this point in his career.....Rather see the team move forward with younger players that have UPSIDE..........

--- Added 8/15/2010 at 11:23 PM ---

Hell how could I forget Sweed....lol Sweed never showed this much confidence and really didn't tear it upagainst scrubs.....lol If Sweed had Brown's confidence/swagger he would be the best WR in the NFL......

Iron City South
08-16-2010, 06:58 AM
2010 Steelers WR Corps

Ward
Wallace
Sanders
Brown
Battle


.... bet it.

coldrolled
08-16-2010, 07:01 AM
2010 Steelers WR Corps

Ward
Wallace
Sanders
Brown
Battle


.... bet it.

:plus1: that should be it.... then grisham and london to the PS. El to Tampa. it would be nice if BL went back to.

Bucsfan4ever
08-16-2010, 07:14 AM
:lol: I don't think Tampa will take El off your hands...we've got plenty WRs. Now if he was a RB, might be different.

steelersbabex25
08-16-2010, 07:37 AM
Wallace is only a 2nd year player, but look at the plays he made last year. I'm pretty sure you can count on him this year as a solid #2 reciever. Then put another one of the fastest recievers in the league next to him..that's dangerous.

steelcitysfinestXL
08-16-2010, 08:03 AM
El makes this team and i think the MAY keep 6 wrs if no one else steps up on ST's. I think they will keep El before Battle, because they are suprisingly deep at WR. (well there is potential to be deep) Lewis is showing he can be gunner/gunner blocker and so is Madison. Battle might lose out if he cant lock up both of those ST's spots and more.

As El prob wont offer ANYTHING outside of WR, ill still be really suprised if he gets cut! He is a locker room guy and i think thats the ONLY reason he sticks around. He may be 4th-5th on the depth chart by midseason... but he is a good locker room guy and thats one thing all 4 returnee's have in common. Locker room guys may have won us 2 more games last year! I know MT is all about on-field contributors and diverse types of guys... but El may just be an exception and a safety net at KR/PR if they decide to cut Logan and go with Sanders/Brown!

steelersbabex25
08-16-2010, 08:29 AM
I don't think there's anyway they cut Logan. Kid was money on kickoff and punt returns.

Layin the wood
08-16-2010, 08:36 AM
If we are injury free during the pre-season ( knock on wood ) at the WR position then i think R-El gets cut but i think that Tomlin likes his veteran presence in the locker room and he will end up staying. Brown and Sanders looked good on saturday but i want to see them perform like that the whole pre-season!!

steelcitysfinestXL
08-16-2010, 08:37 AM
I don't think there's anyway they cut Logan. Kid was money on kickoff and punt returns.

Well, as much as i like him... if we cant find a way to get him the ball on offense, hes VERY expendable. He had a nice tackle in kick coverage and he seems to be flashing some hands in camp. I LOVE to see them use him as a Harvin-like utility player this season. But if were not gonna use him he might as well be cut. I'd be okay with Brown/Sanders or El returning. El doesnt have the speed any more but he is VERY smart when it comes to fielding punts. He never makes mistakes and may even be able to break one or two a year. Logan lets too many kicks bounce IMO, hell he even let a KO bounce. Thats not good! I hope he makes the team cause he can be a threat. He is very exciting to watch... but i think we have way too many 2-way talents to have the luxury of a return speacialist this season. He's gotta offer more.

Zachintosh66
08-16-2010, 09:07 AM
I don't think there's anyway they cut Logan. Kid was money on kickoff and punt returns.

I disagree... hes very expendable...

with browns speed and they say sanders is comparable as well... lets see one of them return kicks

jnes1216
08-16-2010, 09:51 AM
I disagree... hes very expendable...

with browns speed and they say sanders is comparable as well... lets see one of them return kicks

I agree it would be nice to see those two return some kicks to get a comparison. I just hate to lose Logan who did a nice job returning kick offs. They did set aside a roster spot for kick returners in the past -- Allen Rossum, and Logan last year. But if one of those young WR's prove capable that would allow Logan to be cut and free up a roster spot for wherever.

I don't see ARE being much of a contributor enough to stay on the team. Are defenses going to be more worried about him vs. Brown/Sanders speed? Put one of those guys in the third spot and they'll be in the same position as Wallace last year. Running deep routes, not having hot reads, that's a nice spot to turn these guys loose.

harpo
08-16-2010, 10:39 AM
Personally I don't think there's any way that El doesn't make this team. Let's face it, you've Ward who we know will make it and contribute. Then you have 2 rookies who are showing potential and flashes of good things to come but are still unproven when it really counts. We've seen them do good things in camp and some good things against 2nd and 3rd tier defenses from the Lions. Wallace in his 2nd year should step up and be even better than last year but it's no guarantee. I would say your 5 WR's are Ward, Wallace, El, Sanders, and Brown. If they keep 6 then of course Battle. I like that Battle can play ST so it would be a toss up between those 2 but I still think ARE has a good chance.

I wholeheartedly agree. Good post.

K Train
08-16-2010, 10:39 AM
randle el was a terrible acquisition, even as depth. hes terrified of the endzone, is not as shifty as he used to be, is a terrible route runner, cant get open.

please cut him, he blows

BlackGold4vr
08-16-2010, 10:59 AM
I gotta agree with the topic of this post. After seeing what our new guys bring to the table Emanuel Sanders, Antonio Brown, and Arnaz Battle. We don't need no stinking ARL. Those guys stretch the field and give us quick strike capabilities whenever they are on the field and we already have a possession receiver with Hines Ward.

StlersGuy
08-16-2010, 11:33 AM
randle el was a terrible acquisition, even as depth. hes terrified of the endzone, is not as shifty as he used to be, is a terrible route runner, cant get open.

please cut him, he blows

Back in his prime he was one of those players who you could use to make the defence open up because he was able to be used so many ways. However he is not that same player now. I dont look for him to be on the team after the preseason.

SteelCityKid5
08-16-2010, 11:46 AM
[QUOTE=Black@Gold Forever32;355748]Ok well I don't recall Wille Reid, Fred Gibson tearing it up against 2nd and 3rd stringers when they were rookies.....

El really doesn't offer much as a WR anymore at this point in his career.....Rather see the team move forward with younger players that have UPSIDE..........


...Yeah and they still didn't play with the first team offense being that they were too young regardless. Obviously Brown and Sanders as of right now are better than Gibson and Reid.These two wide outs have tremendous upside. But given Tomlins track record, I don't see him just cutting Randle El after telling him he will compete for the 3rd spot. He brings veteran leadership on and off the field Tomlin wants. Not saying El is set in stone at the number 3. There can be multiple packages where he's playing in different spots on the field. I'm holding my judgment before week one of the regular season and not overreacting after one preseason game.

Zachintosh66
08-16-2010, 11:49 AM
This will all change if ARL scores next week...

everyone will be like "i knew he still had some left in the tank" etc etc

Way to early... lots of football left...

coldrolled
08-16-2010, 11:56 AM
randle el was a terrible acquisition, even as depth. hes terrified of the endzone, is not as shifty as he used to be, is a terrible route runner, cant get open.

please cut him, he blows

Battle's hands down better than El. battle should stay....
Battle was better before we even started camp.

KSSteelerfan
08-16-2010, 12:05 PM
So does this mean I have to permanently retire my Randle El jersey and looking for something just a little more current? :lol:

steelcitysfinestXL
08-16-2010, 12:47 PM
So does this mean I have to permanently retire my Randle El jersey and looking for something just a little more current? :lol:

Dont mothball that Jersey just yet!

K Train
08-16-2010, 12:48 PM
why would you ever buy a randle el jersey lol

coldrolled
08-16-2010, 01:06 PM
why would you ever buy a randle el jersey lol

yah... my summers 44 jersey is way better....

:cope:

Layin the wood
08-16-2010, 01:20 PM
I have to duct tape the back of my Holmes jersey and put Dixons name on there!!!:lol:

xxxsteelernation
08-16-2010, 01:36 PM
antwann can do the same thing that batch is here for, mentoring and training. It's kinda unfair to leave that all up to hines. two coaches are better than one.

K Train
08-16-2010, 01:41 PM
antwann can do the same thing that batch is here for, mentoring and training. It's kinda unfair to leave that all up to hines. two coaches are better than one.

since when do players deserve roster spots to coach, thats why coaches have coaching spots. keep in mind that they arent taking over a business or becoming a priest, they are playing a game, a game they have been playing their whole life. mentors have become overrated, its a cute theory though...but lets let the coaches fine turn their game and not let randle el teach them exactly how to not get open

i dont want el teaching them anything, theyd be better off winging it

Blazedby92
08-16-2010, 02:47 PM
He should of stayed gone for all I care, he wasn't that great for us, I laughed when everyone said your going to miss EL, Him and Willie have been living off that SB XL for how many years now. We have guys now that can do what they do BUT better and younger.

El's next stop probably Wasteland Raiders. Good riddins'

K Train
08-16-2010, 03:50 PM
he chased the money and left the steelers....by all means good for him, id chase the money too but hes 5 years removed from being less than mediocre, hes borderline terrible now

Black@Gold Forever32
08-16-2010, 06:27 PM
This will all change if ARL scores next week...

everyone will be like "i knew he still had some left in the tank" etc etc

Way to early... lots of football left...

I won't......Sanders and Brown have upside while El is on the down side of his career.....I thought it was an ok move to bring him back during camp/pre-season especially to mentor the rookies......I was ok with El even making the roster if the rookies looked lost are not ready.....But by all reports we have heard both Sanders and Brown look ready to at least contribute somewhat this year.....Its not like they will be asked to carry the passing game.....They will be asked to be the 3rd and 4th WR's....If injury happens to Ward or Wallace then keep El on speed dial......I'm sure he will be available if he is cut.....

Blazedby92
08-17-2010, 08:12 AM
Ok if randle el don't make the roster then Let's get rid of batch too. and lefty


Now We are talking, move batch to a coaching position and just flat out drop Lefty and EL.

harpo
08-18-2010, 08:34 AM
I think Randle-El makes the cut. I think that Logan is out (either on the practice squad or with another team). I think we'll see Sanders and Brown getting more opportunities to return kicks and punts in the forthcoming games.

I think the Steelers WRs for 2010-11 will be (in no particular order):


1. Ward
2. Wallace
3. Randle-El
4. Sanders
5. Brown
6. Battle

K Train
08-18-2010, 08:51 AM
I think Randle-El makes the cut. I think that Logan is out (either on the practice squad or with another team). I think we'll see Sanders and Brown getting more opportunities to return kicks and punts in the forthcoming games.

I think the Steelers WRs for 2010-11 will be (in no particular order):


1. Ward
2. Wallace
3. Randle-El
4. Sanders
5. Brown
6. Battle
i think randle el and logan both get let go, neither are PS eligible

harpo
08-18-2010, 08:57 AM
i think randle el and logan both get let go, neither are PS eligible

I thought El would be let go intially but I think he'll be kept to help develop the younger WRs as KR/PR. Also, he can still return punts (not as effectively as he used to, however) and I think the ST coaches trust his hands (as well as Moore's) in crucial situations moreso than Logan's.

But Logan is gone. He's too one-dimensional.

Blazedby92
08-18-2010, 08:59 AM
i think randle el and logan both get let go, neither are PS eligible

:plus1::cope: Logan is a descent returner but can't play any where else especially the other side of Special teams, opens a spot