PDA

View Full Version : Summers looking to Contribute



coldrolled
08-10-2010, 07:05 PM
Summers looking to contribute
By Teresa Varley - Steelers.com

Posted 4 hours ago

aa
Running back Frank Summers is hoping to open some eyes against the Lions on Saturday night at Heinz Field in the preseason opener.

Summers played in two games, starting one, last year as a rookie before being placed on injured reserve with a back injury.

“In the business you prove yourself yearly and day in and day out,” said Summers.
“They are always trying to get someone to replace you and you have to prove your worth.

“I am looking forward to the game. I think it’s a great opportunity to go out and display myself athletically, physically and mentally.”

Summers feels like he has made major improvements since his rookie camp and hopes it shows on the field where he is willing to do whatever is asked of him – from fullback, to short yardage back to special teams.

“I want to do what the coaches think I can do,” said Summers. “I want to be a go-to guy in more than one situation and help the team out any way I can. I pride myself in being a team guy and wanting to win games and that is what I am here to do.”

* * *

With more than half of their training camp practices already in the books, Steelers players are looking forward to getting on the field on Saturday night against the Lions and hitting players other than their own teammates.

“Just being in camp, hitting the same guys every day gets boring,” said linebacker LaMarr Woodley. “During the preseason you have the chance to see what guys really got, what young guys are going to do in a game situation.”

And it’s not just the defensive guys who are feeling that way about the hitting.

“It’s only been a week, but it seems like forever,” said wide receiver Arnaz Battle. “We have been going against our own guys. We have been banging on each other. Guys are excited. It’s an opportunity for us to go out and play against someone else and take out our frustration.”

Big T
08-10-2010, 07:53 PM
:hilarious:

BlitzburghRockCity
08-10-2010, 09:06 PM
Summers and Redman will have their shots this pre season, given the state of our backup RB's it would be nice to see one of these guys take control of the job.

Stlrs4Life
08-10-2010, 09:41 PM
I haven't heared too many good things about him lately. Hope they are wrong.

K Train
08-10-2010, 09:53 PM
hes the worst....id rather have redman

Black@Gold Forever32
08-10-2010, 10:06 PM
Summers won't make the team..........Mendenhall, Dwyer, Redman, and Moore......I expect Moore to make it since he would be only vet after Mendenhall on the 53........

KSSteelerfan
08-11-2010, 02:48 AM
Summers and Redman will have their shots this pre season, given the state of our backup RB's it would be nice to see one of these guys take control of the job.

:plus1:

Dobre Shunka
08-11-2010, 04:09 AM
Well, there has been absolutely "zero" to be impressed with thus far. So, I'm just looking forward to one, or even two of these guys making huge strides this year. Let's get the pads on and see what these guys can do against another uniform.

Dwyer, Tank, and Redman, let's see what they can do in games.

HUNT4SEVEN
08-11-2010, 06:50 PM
I hope Redman makes it also:tt02:

coldrolled
08-11-2010, 11:18 PM
I hope Redman makes it also:tt02:

i have the feeling redman and summers both make it.

the rest of the rb newbies are cleared out.

and logan, because of a new cb, s, db, wr will take his place and do more than one job.


see you logan.

coldrolled
08-12-2010, 07:43 AM
Fullback Frank Summers was never hurt in high school or college, but last year's fifth-round pick out of UNLV has spent the majority of his first year or so in the NFL hurt. Summers missed 14 games his rookie year with a back injury that required surgery and missed six practices this camp with a concussion. "It is something that you have to deal with," Summers said. "What's good for me is that it is still early in camp." Summer has returned for the past three practices and has taken a lot of first-team reps at fullback.

Iron City South
08-12-2010, 11:39 AM
i have the feeling redman and summers both make it.

the rest of the rb newbies are cleared out.

and logan, because of a new cb, s, db, wr will take his place and do more than one job.


see you logan.

Dwyer will make the team. If they try to put him on the PS, he'll get picked up faster than you can say, "Buh-bye"

I agree w/ Mendenhall, Dwyer, Moore, and Redman

coldrolled
08-12-2010, 04:05 PM
Dwyer will make the team. If they try to put him on the PS, he'll get picked up faster than you can say, "Buh-bye"

I agree w/ Mendenhall, Dwyer, Moore, and Redman

Mendenhall, Dwyer, Moore for sure...

Summers FB and Redman takes Logans spot.

jnes1216
08-15-2010, 02:18 PM
I still don't like Summers. One catch against Detroit but he doesn't impress me. I'd rather keep Logan as a return specialist and put Legursky in at fullback in the redzone and use D Johnson/McHugh for other short yardage situations.

DanRooney
08-15-2010, 02:22 PM
I still don't like Summers. One catch against Detroit but he doesn't impress me. I'd rather keep Logan as a return specialist and put Legursky in at fullback in the redzone and use D Johnson/McHugh for other short yardage situations.

McHugh doesn't make the team. We don't need 4 tight ends.

jnes1216
08-15-2010, 02:34 PM
McHugh doesn't make the team. We don't need 4 tight ends.

Wasn't there four on last years roster? -- Miller, Spaeth, Johnson, and McHugh.

Don't see too much out of Spaeth in the blocking dept.

coldrolled
08-15-2010, 02:39 PM
I still don't like Summers. One catch against Detroit but he doesn't impress me. I'd rather keep Logan as a return specialist and put Legursky in at fullback in the redzone and use D Johnson/McHugh for other short yardage situations.

Summers was the starting FB... he seemed fine in BA's non Fb offense...

Vincent, Logan, Burnett, a LB.... our on my possibly out list
burnett is too short... we have enogh of them.. keenan is hitting harder on ST.

Crezdon Butler, summers, redman, sylvester in...

TE's not sure.. we need to draft another good one.

It was hard to judge Moore and the other RB's really.. 90% of the run plays were up the middle.. Moore up the middle into Suh isnt a high percentage play....

The real run plays to the outside for 1st downs were Dixon scrambling..
Kinda like Ben scrambles then finds a receiver, dixon scramles and forgets about passing.. too different styles, but they do get the 1st downs.

Leftwich has zero ..... Dixon had a 158 passer rating... what was leftwiches?

steelcitysfinestXL
08-16-2010, 05:17 PM
Wasn't there four on last years roster? -- Miller, Spaeth, Johnson, and McHugh.

Don't see too much out of Spaeth in the blocking dept.

I recall Spaeth having a pancake on Redmans TD didnt he? He's no Heath/Johnson when it comes to blocking but he holds his own. I'd cut McHugh before Summers honestly. Summers has displayed hands in camp as well and is a better blocker than McHugh. Johnson is as good a blocker as Heath and offers up some support as a lead blocker as well. Spaeth is a better pass catching TE than we all know. I'd NEVER put him in over Heath, but we gotta keep him to have a LEGIT pass catching TE incase Miller goes down. IF Summers can continue to play ST's i think he makes it... much to K's dismay!!!! :nahnah: All joking aside Summers is nothing speacial, but if we want a fullback he's the best on the roster right now!

K Train
08-16-2010, 05:29 PM
All joking aside Summers is nothing speacial, but if we want a fullback he's the best on the roster right now!

you REALLY must not have watched david johnson, hes an amazing lead blocker, like a legit great one with elite potential.


summers slams his ****ing face into the ground

steelcitysfinestXL
08-17-2010, 08:12 AM
you REALLY must not have watched david johnson, hes an amazing lead blocker, like a legit great one with elite potential.


summers slams his ****ing face into the ground

You must not have read my previous post... i said "Johnson is as good a blocker as Heath and offers up some support as a lead blocker as well." I know Johnson is a great blocker... he offers about NOTHING else but he is a servicable 3rd TE and part time FB. Im just willing to give Summers a try because, unlike you, Myself and (as far as the media has said) the coaches think he is capable of being our FB.

quote from RB coach Kirby Wilson:

That wasn’t the case for Frank Summers, who had more subtle assignments to carry out. But Wilson praised his play as well. “He (Summers) had one lead (blocking) opportunity and he was one for one,” Wilson said. “The big thing for him is to make sure he manages the backfield, lines up correctly, lines the halfback up correctly, and just makes sure that everyone knows their assignments back there and that he adjusts according to the front. Sometimes at that position, you can have an assignment and it changes based on the front shift or the rotation of a safety, and he’s got to take that next level of understanding. I thought Frank did a really good job of that Saturday. That was a big thing for him and he came out of that with zero mental errors, so to me that’s very good progress on his part.”

K Train
08-17-2010, 08:14 AM
ill take a one dimensional lead blocker with pure dominance over a less than average RB trying to disguise himself as a terrible FB any day

steelcitysfinestXL
08-17-2010, 08:16 AM
ill take a one dimensional lead blocker with pure dominance over a less than average RB trying to disguise himself as a terrible FB any day

lol, guess me and his coach just dont see it that way.

K Train
08-17-2010, 08:27 AM
ive seen the amazing "frank the tank"(gay) highlights and he was a nate illaoa clone....a little fat RB that had decent wheels but was never asked to block or anything and he is clearly more of a RB (not a good one by any stretch of the imagination) than he is FB, at FB hes worse than carey davis and carey davis was the same thing, a runner pretending to be a blocker.

id take johnson as a FB crushing lead blocker and 3rd TE that can block better than any of our tackles

steelcitysfinestXL
08-17-2010, 08:34 AM
ill take a one dimensional lead blocker with pure dominance over a less than average RB trying to disguise himself as a terrible FB any day

Now if you have worded it like this: "For a little as we use a FB, we could keep Johnson as a 3rd TE and use him in I-Form packages, and Legursky as a GL package! The Frank Summers becomes expendable and I can say "i told you so"!!!"

Ill admit in some areas you know your ****... but give me something with some explanation of why and how! Unlike some people on here i dont just agree with the guys with millions of posts and fancy sigs :yellowthumb:

--- Added 8/17/2010 at 07:34 AM ---


ive seen the amazing "frank the tank"(gay) highlights and he was a nate illaoa clone....a little fat RB that had decent wheels but was never asked to block or anything and he is clearly more of a RB (not a good one by any stretch of the imagination) than he is FB, at FB hes worse than carey davis and carey davis was the same thing, a runner pretending to be a blocker.

id take johnson as a FB crushing lead blocker and 3rd TE that can block better than any of our tackles

Not saying he's "The Amazing Tank" im just willing to give him a chance because he hasnt faired too bad on this roster as a fb. He gets a hat on a man, gets his block and offers SOMETHING as a ball carrier and out of the back field. And i already agreed that Johnson is a good lead blocker...again

K Train
08-17-2010, 08:35 AM
i cant post it at work but go look up nate ilaoa (the nasti video), he went in the 7th to the eagles, they tried making him a FB, he failed, he no longer plays football. then look at the "frank the tank" video and compare

same thing is going to happen with summers, if we want to disguise a RB as a FB we have dwyer to do that (someone who is a much better RB)

meanwhile david johnson does not have good hands and is no ball carrier but hes a great blocker in the backfield and on the line, thats enough versatility for me

K Train
08-17-2010, 08:37 AM
Not saying he's "The Amazing Tank" im just willing to give him a chance because he hasnt faired too bad on this roster as a fb. He gets a hat on a man, gets his block and offers SOMETHING as a ball carrier and out of the back field. And i already agreed that Johnson is a good lead blocker...again

im just gonna have to thoroughly disagree....if he actually landed a block or two in practice finally he still overshoots and slams his face into the ground in game time, meanwhile davis johnson gets a hand on one or two defenders and ITS OVER for them, they are out of the play

steelcitysfinestXL
08-17-2010, 08:43 AM
i cant post it at work but go look up nate ilaoa (the nasti video), he went in the 7th to the eagles, they tried making him a FB, he failed, he no longer plays football. then look at the "frank the tank" video and compare

same thing is going to happen with summers, if we want to disguise a RB as a FB we have dwyer to do that (someone who is a much better RB)

meanwhile david johnson does not have good hands and is no ball carrier but hes a great blocker in the backfield and on the line, thats enough versatility for me

I cant go on youtube at work either... and i dont think i would anyway. Im willing to look at what the man can do FOR THE STEELERS, as a FB. He was hurt all last season and now is his chance to prove if he can play FB or not. I dont care what he did at UNLV, he wont be used in that capacity here.

I like Dwyer alot and think given the right chance he can be a great 1-2 punch with Mende in a season or two... but he better get his **** together. Hes been nothing but hurt and pretty up and down when he is on the field. I know the kid is sickly talented and i hope i gets a chance to show!

K Train
08-17-2010, 08:48 AM
lol the thing is if dwyer has been up and down, summers has just been down. he has shown no potential in any aspects of pro football. ANYONE can get a running start and miss a block. I thought he'd be out of football by now, looks like the steelers coaches are still riding that man crush they got in a private workout to draft a player that would have certainly went undrafted in the 5th round. I guess he will stick around just because the steelers seem to like stringing him along to see him ultimately fail.

i hope our starting lineup week one is leftwich, summers, redman just so i can puke at the worst starting lineup in steelers history

steelcitysfinestXL
08-17-2010, 08:53 AM
i hope our starting lineup week one is leftwich, summers, redman

Thats the Spirit!!! Now you're onboard!!! Redman is #3 RB, summers is a I-form FB, IF he makes this team. (i still think they like legursky and FUTURE HOF'er David Johnson as part time FB's aswell) and IF/when Lefty starts i will also be disappointed man! Im not saying he's a bum but i am a blind Dixon fan!

K Train
08-17-2010, 08:58 AM
I would actually like legursky as a FB too, i wouldnt be married to the david johnson idea if legursky can do it. both guys are better options than summers, actually mchugh is a better option that summers, and im actually gonna say redman is a better option at Fb than summers

coldrolled
08-18-2010, 12:28 PM
I would actually like legursky as a FB too, i wouldnt be married to the david johnson idea if legursky can do it. both guys are better options than summers, actually mchugh is a better option that summers, and im actually gonna say redman is a better option at Fb than summers

did you see Kuhn score in the Green Bay Game.. Nice!

Summers is a wierd subject... he has thousands of yards at UNLV.. the offenses main weapon.

Then he comes here and gets 0 hand offs this year so far, 1 last year, he makes most of his blocks, not one time has a RB actually followed his block or any other so called FB's block... except for legursky's and the redman TD run.

Summers was 1 for 1 receiving and got a first down... Johnson, mchugh, legursky cant catch.

I think running, catching and blocking is a FB's job...

steelcitysfinestXL
08-18-2010, 12:34 PM
did you see Kuhn score in the Green Bay Game.. Nice!

Summers is a wierd subject... he has thousands of yards at UNLV.. the offenses main weapon.

Then he comes here and gets 0 hand offs this year so far, 1 last year, he makes most of his blocks, not one time has a RB actually followed his block or any other so called FB's block... except for legursky's and the redman TD run.

Summers was 1 for 1 receiving and got a first down... Johnson, mchugh, legursky cant catch.

I think running, catching and blocking is a FB's job...

K-Train says: "All that goes out the window cause he was a waste of a draft pick and there were WAY better players available! Summers is a bum, a joke... he will be cut or be the bane of my existence!"

Steelcity says: You're exactly right!

K Train
08-18-2010, 12:39 PM
lol kuhn...theres another one.

steelers fans are always in search of two things...the next jerome bettis (fat back) or the next willie parker (the unknown). its almost sickening.

summers is a terrible blocker, not because he was a wasted pick or a reach...its because he sucks, his draft status has nothing to do with his ability or lack thereof. its impossible to talk to any steeler fan about how a potential "gem" might just end up sucking complete ***

coldrolled
08-18-2010, 01:06 PM
lol kuhn...theres another one.

steelers fans are always in search of two things...the next jerome bettis (fat back) or the next willie parker (the unknown). its almost sickening.

summers is a terrible blocker, not because he was a wasted pick or a reach...its because he sucks, his draft status has nothing to do with his ability or lack thereof. its impossible to talk to any steeler fan about how a potential "gem" might just end up sucking complete ***

He ran and caught for thousands of yards at UNLV.. He was not blocking.. Not much Experience blocking. Obviously, that is his weakest link... So arians uses him for that only? More rookie confidence building again..

Look at Dwyer, he was a beast at GT and what is he doing now... looking a bit sucky too.

If they get cut its just another day for me.. Just wierd how many O players are having a hard time. It cant be the OL that is ruining everybody... :yellowthumb:

K Train
08-18-2010, 01:13 PM
He ran and caught for thousands of yards at UNLV.. He was not blocking.. Not much Experience blocking. Obviously, that is his weakest link... So arians uses him for that only? More rookie confidence building again..

Look at Dwyer, he was a beast at GT and what is he doing now... looking a bit sucky too.

If they get cut its just another day for me.. Just wierd how many O players are having a hard time. It cant be the OL that is ruining everybody... :yellowthumb:

i know, thats why i call him a mediocre RB pretending to be a FB. taking a ball carrier and making him fail at blocking assignments is not how to groom a FB

clearly he was a better runner than blocker, thats just not what we need. and hes really not even that good at running, i cant come up with a reason why he should be on the final roster

steelcitysfinestXL
08-18-2010, 01:16 PM
lol kuhn...theres another one.

steelers fans are always in search of two things...the next jerome bettis (fat back) or the next willie parker (the unknown). its almost sickening.


True story! I wont debate that... i ,unlike most, realize Bettis is a one of a kind and im NOT in search of another BUS! Unlike most, i saw Parker for what he was: I visionless 3 year over-achiever who hit his ceiling and had to be replaced.

I just dont have the evidence that you do to know Frank Summers "sucks complete ***". Its hard for me to make that judgement off of two carries and a few plays as a lead blocker... so i wanna see him in action this preseason to see what he offers as a fullback first. I was a huge Krieder fan, huge Tim Lester fan (even have his autograph!) and i wanted us to draft Owen Schmidt like no other. The coaching staff obviously likes the "hybrid type" at full back as evidence with Dookie, Davis and now Summers... as mildy effective as they have all been, thats what we're stuck with.

K Train
08-18-2010, 01:20 PM
i mean you dont have to believe me, its my opinion that summers has peaked as a pro football player and when hes on the top of his game its still not very good. hes a very very low potential type of player.

these hybrid homos we got throwing blocks is just a terrible way of grooming a FB. taking a backup RB and making be a lead blocker is a terrible idea. **** arians i hate him

owen schmitt is a head hunter, an absolute monster. he scares me and hes on the complete opposite of the country.

he ****ing took his helmet off and smashed his bare head and made himself bleed...thats ****ing psychotic, thats a guy i want on my side

steelcitysfinestXL
08-18-2010, 01:28 PM
owen schmitt is a head hunter, an absolute monster. he scares me and hes on the complete opposite of the country.

he ****ing took his helmet off and smashed his bare head and made himself bleed...thats ****ing psychotic, thats a guy i want on my side

Dude is a beast! Thats what i want at Fullback too! I THINK Summers could be used in this offense if we EVER got the fullback the ball. Thats the only reason to have a "hybrid-type" FB. I liked having Dookie cause he was a good reciever and offered something in the run game. He had a nice td at NE making an over the shoulder catch. If were gonna have these athletic HB turned FB, we gotta give them the ball. But we never threw him the ball and i doubt we'll throw any fullback now the ball. Thats one thing i dont like about Arians offense, we might as well play Legursky or Johnson cause we KNOW they can block and they arent in danger of having to catch, cause we wont ever thorw it to them!

coldrolled
08-18-2010, 01:50 PM
Dude is a beast! Thats what i want at Fullback too! I THINK Summers could be used in this offense if we EVER got the fullback the ball. Thats the only reason to have a "hybrid-type" FB. I liked having Dookie cause he was a good reciever and offered something in the run game. He had a nice td at NE making an over the shoulder catch. If were gonna have these athletic HB turned FB, we gotta give them the ball. But we never threw him the ball and i doubt we'll throw any fullback now the ball. Thats one thing i dont like about Arians offense, we might as well play Legursky or Johnson cause we KNOW they can block and they arent in danger of having to catch, cause we wont ever thorw it to them!

this is the predicability issue again...

if the fullback always blocks then the defense gets out of his way and waits for the RB.

If the FB cant catch then they dont have to worry about him in the flat.

If the FB never gets the ball... and so on and so on...

Its the plays not the player... how can Summers look good or bad if he never gets
a variety of plays.. he is 1 for 1 catching and a first down. i thought i seen some soft hands on that catch too... i guess in his one chance he needed to catch it, run over three people, get 40 yards and score. then maybe he would get another try..??

K Train
08-18-2010, 02:07 PM
i hope he just makes it now so i look like a genius, you all thought carey davis was a bad FB...ha

coldrolled
08-18-2010, 03:30 PM
Camp Notes:

The Steelers also were happy with Frank Summers's play at fullback. Wilson said the coaches want Summers to make "sure he takes the next step in terms of alignment, assignments and adjustments. He's doing a real good job. He didn't have any lead block opportunities. He had one block and he was one for one. He did a real nice job in limited snaps he had."

Read more: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10230/1080777-66.stm#ixzz0wzHlNoW1