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K Train
03-16-2010, 12:34 AM
St Louis- Jimmy Clausen QB Notre Dame

They need a face of the franchise, the Sam Bradford rumors HAVE to be a smokescreen, they wouldnt be that stupid would they?

Detroit- Russel Okung OT Oklahoma State

Teams are waking up that the DTs might not have the value here, they need a LT.....imo okung is not as good as oher was coming out and they passed on oher. Well now they have to pay for it with another 30+ million guaranteed to keep stafford upright.

Tampa- Ndamukong Suh DT Nebraska

Tampa has always been about defense, They are thrilled to get suh at this pick, he is an instant upgrade and will be a difference maker.

Washington- Bryan Bulaga OT Iowa

They need oline and believe it or not this is where bulagas value is going to fall, hes a premier talent no doubt in my mind.

Kansas City- Gerald Mccoy DT Oklahoma

Seems tough to pass on him since he is a prototype 34 end and was often projected to be long gone by now. they can trade dorsey now and have 2 STUD ends with tyson jackson and gerald mccoy

Seattle - Sam Bradford QB Oklahoma

They need a Qb but Bradford has no value here. The seahawks have their answer to alex smith lol

Cleveland- Eric Berry S Tennesse
They need secondary, Haden disappointed them and they are shocked to see berry…slam dunk pick imo

Oakland- Bruce Campbell OT Maryland

Tough pick, i think it comes down to campbell, mays and JPP. Im going with campbell, al davis is thinking about him right now as we speak

Buffalo- Anthony Davis OT Rutgers

they need oline no doubts, anthony davis could have a oher-like fall cause of him being "lazy" but the bills almost need to walk out of the first with a LT


Jacksonville- Dez Bryant WR Oklahoma State

I have mixed feeling about Bryant…adarius bowman was a first round prospect too and he cant even land in the CFL. Bryant is not calvin Johnson, hes not andre Johnson, I don’t even think hes a Michael crabtree. Hes a name more than an elite prospect. The jags cant possibly take tebow here at this point

Denver- Rolando Mcclain MLB Bama

He will be a stud in the middle....they signed green and jamaal williams. Hes perfect for the middle as the still make the transition to a 34

Miami- Terrence Cody NT Bama

They have some great young talent on the dline. Langford, merling, cody….awesome line, perfect 34 line. theres rumors that cody wont make it pass the dolphins lately, i think this man has value in the first round.

San Francisco- Joe Haden CB Florida

They love to see him here, someone to team up with Nate Clements and give them 2 great corners to match teams like AZ and their passing attack

Seattle- Taylor Mays SS USC

Carrol gets his boy, thank god i am so glad hes off the board already

New York Giants- Sean Weatherspoon OLB Mizzou

Sintim and Weatherspoon=awesome. spoon has been SKYROCKETING lately

Tennessee- Dan Williams DT Tennessee

As they search for haynesworths replacement they find themselves with dan Williams who can be a disruptor in the middle of a 43 line.

San Francisco – Trent Williams OT Oklahoma

Gaping hole at RT, hes a great RT
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Pittsburgh- Earl Thomas S Texas

Earl Thomas and Polamalu could be legendary. Not the elite prospect berry is, but as close as you can get.

Atlanta- Jason Pierre-Paul DE South Florida

Perfect for them to put opposite Abraham. Abraham, jerry, bump Anderson to DT and JPP on the end they have a dline that will be a handful….he could be long gone by now, but him being dumb and a workout warrior made him fall

Houston- CJ Spiller RB clemson

The run game suffered when slaton went down. Hes a part time back anyway and brown, moats and the other guy are nothing more than backups. Spiller will dominate in the zone blocking scheme they run.

Cincinnati- Carlos Dunlap DE FLorida

Dunlap has character concerns, desire concerns….but that’s never been a problem for the Bengals year in and year out. Odoms injury is pretty serious, dunlap gives them depth on a pretty solid defense

New England- Brandon Graham OLB Michigan

This pick pains me, but it’s a slam dunk choice if hes there

Green Bay- Kyle Wilson CB Boise state
They are old at corner, Wilson is the consenus #2 corner and has value right here….all the oline is pretty much depleted in the first round


Philadelphia- Mike Iupati G Idaho

The shawn Andrews era has ended, hes the best guard prospect since….well, shawn andrews

Baltimore- Jermaine Greshem TE Oklahoma

Heap is old, they want to get flacco some more weapons. Greshem is a terrific pass catching TE.

Arizona- Sergio Kindle OLB Texas

Clark Haggans is old and they lost dansby…best 34 OLB left on the board

New York Jets - Golden Tate WR Notre Dame

Tate ran well at the combine, he gives them a physical presence out wide, a willing blocker in the run heavy offense and a legit threat to go along with edwards

Dallas- Maurkice Pouncey C/G Florida

Not the biggest need, but tremendous value here imo, pouncey will be an elite center but can kick out to guard at any point. They play in a divison with some elite dlinemen, upgrades along the line are always welcome

Minnesota- Derrick Morgan DE Georgia Tech

Kind of surprising he fell this far, but they need a legit end opposite allen

San Diego- Ryan Matthews RB Fresno state

Pretty common pick, I kind of think it is a lock at this point.

Indianapolis- Charles Brown OT USC

He bulked up to LT standards this offseason. Hes a tremendous pass blocker and exactly what the colts look for in a tackle

New Orleans- Brian Price DT UCLA

Penetrating DT to play with ellis, this defense is building up to an elite status


ROUND TWO

33. St. Louis Rams WR: Arrelious Benn: Illinois:
First Round Talent as an athlete, second round talent as a football player

34. Detroit Lions: Jared Odrick DT Penn State
They get a similar player to Gerald Mccoy at this spot since they passed on mccoy/suh in the first

35. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: WR: DeMaryius Thomas: Georgia Tech:
Top talent, would be gone by now if he didnt break his foot

36. Kansas City Chiefs: OLB: Jerry Hughes
as they continue to build the 34, they get a great rush OLB

37. Washington Redskins: Javid Best RB Cal
Running Game is in shambles with portis slowly losing it. Theres no QB worth taking here, if they drafted Colt Mccoy they would have 2 on that roster named colt with similar skill sets and pike might be a reach here

38. Cleveland Browns: RB: Patrick Robinson CB FSU
They get berry in the first and robinson in the second....good day for that secondary

39. Oakland Raiders: Everson Griffen DE USC
A somewhat forgotten man throughout the draft process, local product and a physical freak

40. Seattle Seahawks: Damien Williams WR USC
Carrol Gets his boy (again) only this time hes actually pretty talented

41. Buffalo Bills: Cam Thomas NT UNC
As they try to build a 34 defense thomas is the best NT on the board still, lets them move stroud to end and hopefully get some production out of maybin

42. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Brandon Ghee CB Wake Forest
They get a nice CB to take over for barber and a great player opposite talib

43. Miami Dolphins: WR: Brandon Spikes MLB Florida
Parcells loves LBs, spikes shouldnt be here...the gap between him and mcclain is minimal imo

44. New England Patriots: Ricky Sapp OLB/DE Clemson
They are trying to get a pass rush going, they will convert sapp to OLB

45. Denver Broncos: Perrish Cox CB Oklahoma State
Bailey is getting pretty old and this gives them a duo of the future with cox and alphonso smith

46. New York Giants: LaMarr Houston: Texas
They wanted dan williams in the first, but this gives them a great fit for their system

47. New England Patriots: Brandon Lafell WR LSU
Moss wont be back beyond next year, welker has a bad knee now...they need to sure up the position, lafell is great value here

48. Carolina Panthers: DE: Koa Misi: Utah:
Trying to replace peppers, not sure this does it but hes a decent player

49. San Francisco 49ers: S: Nate Allen: USF:
They got Haden in the first and now they sure up the safety spot which is questionable at best right now

50. Kansas City Chiefs: Mardy Gilyard WR Cincy
Great player to play opposite of bowe and can start out in the slot. A santonio holmes clone that will have an impact his rookie year, very pro-ready

51. Houston Texans: Chad Jones S LSU
Good Value here, Jones a potential first round pick will be a stud SS for years, an adrian wilson clone

52. Pittsburgh Steelers: OLB Thaddeus Gibson Ohio State
This is just me living my fantasy of thomas and gibson

53. New England Patriots Ron Gronkowski TE Arizona
the second best TE, which is a major need for them right now

54. Cincinnati Bengals: Major Wright S Florida
Roy Willaims isnt the answer

55. Philadelphia Eagles: LB: Daryl Washington: TCU:
Pure speed at LB to play in their 43 defense....losing witherspoon to the titans and having bradley back this will sure up their LBs

56. Green Bay Packers: Jason Fox OT Miami
They need oline and love the white guys

57. Baltimore Ravens: Corey Wootton DE Northwestern
Awesome value here, he can move around on the line and ngata will really help him out playing in a 34...he will get sacks as a 34 end

58. Arizona Cardinals: TE: Aaron Hernandez: Florida:
pope was a bust a few years ago, they need to get lienart a TE to complete the passing attack

59. Dallas Cowboys: Vladimir Duccasse OT/OG Mass
idk, its tough to peg the cowboys pressing needs. imo duccasse is a 3rd round guard prospect, but he could also one day play LT and flo wont be around forever

60. San Diego Chargers: Devin Mccourty CB Rutgers
Trading away cromartie now they have another corner to groom behind cason and jammer

61. New York Jets: DT/DE: Arthur Jones: Syracuse:
Just building the defense under ryan, jones is a versatile player

62. Minnesota Vikings: Tony Pike QB Cincy
Clearly favre is dying, this is good value for pike who needs to bulk up a little bit

63. Indianapolis Colts: Sean Lee MLB Penn State
Undersized MLB...sounds like what the colts look for

64. New Orleans Saints: Jonathan Dwyer RB Georgia Tech
They held a value value for wells last year, dwyer is not that far off, this pick wouldnt surprise me at all


Best of the rest:

Eric Norwood
Navorro Bowman
Jared Valdheer
Selvish Capers
Kareem Jackson
Domonique Franks
Donovan Warren
Jerome Murphy
Colt Mccoy
Tim Tebow
Toby Gerhart
Dexter Mccluster
John Jerry
Alex Carrington
Morgan Burnett
Reshed Jones

Big T
03-16-2010, 12:57 AM
I love you ;)....But in all seriousness, That would make me very happy

andyg1984
03-16-2010, 11:04 AM
that is an awesome mock draft .. if spiller falls to 21 i would be a lil surprised .. f^ the fish if they get cody and spikes .. lol

coldrolled
03-16-2010, 11:17 AM
that is an awesome mock draft .. if spiller falls to 21 i would be a lil surprised .. f^ the fish if they get cody and spikes .. lol

we shored up a lot of D last week.

AN OL if he falls to us, or we get spiller or trade down a bit for pouncey...

An an OL at #52 maybe your #56 pick..

56. Green Bay Packers: Jason Fox OT Miami

darnik44
03-16-2010, 11:23 AM
-No way the Rams or anybody else will take Clausen over Bradford. Intangibles alone give Bradford the clear edge. Personally, I don't think all that highly of either. I wouldn't take any QB in this class in the top 15.

-I don't like the Jacksonville pick. Earl Thomas, Rolando McClain, Joe Haden, Brandon Graham, Derrick Morgan, Jason Pierre-Paul would all be more likely picks IMO.

-Dan Williams is a better NT prospect than Cody. I'm a Cody fan, but Williams is a much better rounded prospect, with more upside, and has a better forecast.

-Earl Thomas probably isn't getting out of the top 10. A safety who can cover like a CB will be a hot comodity.

-I think Brandon Graham will go a lot earlier than you expect. Top 15 pick. Miami is my favorite for him, although his size goes against Bill Parcells typical parameters. He likes big players.

-Dunlap to the Bengals just seems like a natural fit doesn't it. His dad is actually a bail bondsman, so that could be a good connection for the Bengals in more ways than one.

-Derrick Morgan won't get out of the top 20.

-Jared Odrick will likely be a top 20 pick, and could even sneak into the top 10.

-Corey Wootton is really only worth a 4th round pick at best.

-Devin McCourty might not get out of the first round, but won't go lower than about 40.

steelcitysfinestXL
03-16-2010, 11:34 AM
Colts/Cowboys (round 1): I think Dallas goes Tackle first and agree with most experts and say the Colts grab Pouncey to eventually replace Saturday. Jerry Jones is a "knee-jerk" reaction/ overly hands on guy (im not telling anyone anything they dont know here)... Plus, the Cowboys got absolutely embarassed in the playoffs giving up 6-7 sacks and beat down 34-3 by the Vikes. I see best avail. T/WR in the "Boys" future first rounder.

Colts (Round 2): I see them trying their hand in the secondary before taking a lb, esp. Lee in the second. Just my $0.02

Other than that I like the new mock man!!! (though Spiller may be the single player i want more at 18 than Thomas!!!)

--- Added 3/16/2010 at 09:34 AM ---


-No way the Rams or anybody else will take Clausen over Bradford. Intangibles alone give Bradford the clear edge. Personally, I don't think all that highly of either. I wouldn't take any QB in this class in the top 15.
AGREE

-I don't like the Jacksonville pick. Earl Thomas, Rolando McClain, Joe Haden, Brandon Graham, Derrick Morgan, Jason Pierre-Paul would all be more likely picks IMO.
AGREE


-Earl Thomas probably isn't getting out of the top 10. A safety who can cover like a CB will be a hot comodity.
Tend to agree but i hope he does!!!

-I think Brandon Graham will go a lot earlier than you expect. Top 15 pick. Miami is my favorite for him, although his size goes against Bill Parcells typical parameters. He likes big players.
Not sure about MIA, but i agree he will be a riser!



-Devin McCourty might not get out of the first round, but won't go lower than about 40.
I think he is the second CB off the board... maybe to us!!!! And i wouldnt hate it IF Thomas is gone!!

:clap:

coldrolled
03-16-2010, 11:39 AM
Colts/Cowboys (round 1): I think Dallas goes Tackle first and agree with most experts and say the Colts grab Pouncey to eventually replace Saturday. Jerry Jones is a "knee-jerk" reaction/ overly hands on guy (im not telling anyone anything they dont know here)... Plus, the Cowboys got absolutely embarassed in the playoffs giving up 6-7 sacks and beat down 34-3 by the Vikes. I see best avail. T/WR in the "Boys" future first rounder.

Colts (Round 2): I see them trying their hand in the secondary before taking a lb, esp. Lee in the second. Just my $0.02

Other than that I like the new mock man!!! (though Spiller may be the single player i want more at 18 than Thomas!!!)

--- Added 3/16/2010 at 09:34 AM ---



:clap:

seahawks are losing a saftey this week.

Seahawks Release S Deon Grant
The Seattle Seahawks announced that they have released veteran safety Deon Grant.

More shoppers for safety ahead of us

Silverback
03-16-2010, 02:06 PM
56. Green Bay Packers: Jason Fox OT Miami
They need oline and love the white guys

Haha so true.

Zachintosh66
03-16-2010, 02:14 PM
Dont we have enuff OLB? lol


were still a month away and i think we already exhausted every option and "what if"

K Train
03-16-2010, 03:49 PM
seahawks are losing a saftey this week.

Seahawks Release S Deon Grant
The Seattle Seahawks announced that they have released veteran safety Deon Grant.

More shoppers for safety ahead of us

my hopes there is carrol takes his boy mays

K Train
03-16-2010, 03:54 PM
-No way the Rams or anybody else will take Clausen over Bradford. Intangibles alone give Bradford the clear edge. Personally, I don't think all that highly of either. I wouldn't take any QB in this class in the top 15.

-I don't like the Jacksonville pick. Earl Thomas, Rolando McClain, Joe Haden, Brandon Graham, Derrick Morgan, Jason Pierre-Paul would all be more likely picks IMO.

-Dan Williams is a better NT prospect than Cody. I'm a Cody fan, but Williams is a much better rounded prospect, with more upside, and has a better forecast.

-Earl Thomas probably isn't getting out of the top 10. A safety who can cover like a CB will be a hot comodity.

-I think Brandon Graham will go a lot earlier than you expect. Top 15 pick. Miami is my favorite for him, although his size goes against Bill Parcells typical parameters. He likes big players.

-Dunlap to the Bengals just seems like a natural fit doesn't it. His dad is actually a bail bondsman, so that could be a good connection for the Bengals in more ways than one.

-Derrick Morgan won't get out of the top 20.

-Jared Odrick will likely be a top 20 pick, and could even sneak into the top 10.

-Corey Wootton is really only worth a 4th round pick at best.

-Devin McCourty might not get out of the first round, but won't go lower than about 40.
i thought the DEs were tough to project....morgan looks like he'll be steady more than a star, JPP looks like he'll disappear for a few years and maybe just blow up on potential in a few, graham should go high hes the best one available imo, but hes short, slow and has short arms....everything that made woodley a second round pick. and dunlap to the bengals is a lock imo, it just seems right

i disagree about odrick, such a deep DT draft and hes not tyson jackson

i hate bradford, the fact a team is considering him at #1 disgusts me..

and i just love earl thomas, i refuse to makc a mock and put iupati in it as a steeler.

pouncey, thomas, davis are all ok picks with me

coach
03-16-2010, 11:36 PM
Top 2 teams have needs that don't include DT. Could you imagine this discussion a month ago when everyone projected Suh and McCoy to be first 2 picks?

Cleveland has 12 picks and needs a QB. Seattle needs a QB at 6. Washington is picking 4th and they need a QB. I can't see teams sitting around and hoping that QBs fall to them below 4 so I think some trades are likely.

If any of the top OTs fell to us at 18, which ones would you take if Thomas was still on the board?

K Train
03-16-2010, 11:47 PM
i think anthony davis is the one that could be available falling ala michael oher. if he and thomas were there i would take thomas hands down

tburg68
03-17-2010, 12:15 PM
Top 2 teams have needs that don't include DT. Could you imagine this discussion a month ago when everyone projected Suh and McCoy to be first 2 picks?

Cleveland has 12 picks and needs a QB. Seattle needs a QB at 6. Washington is picking 4th and they need a QB. I can't see teams sitting around and hoping that QBs fall to them below 4 so I think some trades are likely.

If any of the top OTs fell to us at 18, which ones would you take if Thomas was still on the board?

If Thomas is there, I think he should be the pick. I will say again, that I think ball hawking safeties are the most important pieces in a zone blitz defense. We pressure the QB and the secondary runs to the ball. I am willing to see what Lewis and Burnett can do this year, if Thomas is being worked into the rotation.

Side note: I HATE Notre Dame, but anyone who thinks that Bradford will be a better NFL QB than Clausen, hasn't watched either of them play much.

JollyRob68
03-17-2010, 04:15 PM
This is going to be a tough draft. Its becoming tougher with cleveland having extra picks that will through off the boards. We need 5-6 Defensive draft picks and 3-4 Offensive.
Defense DE,NT,LB,LB,CB,SAFETY: Offense OL,POWER RB,TE or Scatback.
I like Pouncey,Thomas or Odrick in the first to get the party started. If Earl is there they have to take him. They can trade back if it will give them an extra 2nd rounder.

K Train
03-17-2010, 05:46 PM
This is going to be a tough draft. Its becoming tougher with cleveland having extra picks that will through off the boards. We need 5-6 Defensive draft picks and 3-4 Offensive.
Defense DE,NT,LB,LB,CB,SAFETY: Offense OL,POWER RB,TE or Scatback.
I like Pouncey,Thomas or Odrick in the first to get the party started. If Earl is there they have to take him. They can trade back if it will give them an extra 2nd rounder.

you just cant draft like that. no one does and the day we do will be the day we throw in the towel. BPA available is always the way to go and we didnt do that last year. you cant draft a position or in your case every position. odrick has no value to us in the first, pouncey definitely does

BlackGold4vr
03-17-2010, 06:36 PM
Side note: I HATE Notre Dame, but anyone who thinks that Bradford will be a better NFL QB than Clausen, hasn't watched either of them play much.

The year Clausen came out of high school he was THE top recruited QB in the nation. Literally every division 1A school was after him. I agree that Clausen is probably the better of the 2 QB's. Hell, with all the controversy surrounding Ben right now I wouldn't be too upset if we took Clausen. If Ben goes to jail you have a viable franchise QB to put in his place. If Ben is cleared of all wrong doing then you have some serious trade bait for future use. Who believes that Dixon is our future franchise QB? :thinking:

V_83
03-17-2010, 07:59 PM
Who believes that Dixon is our future franchise QB? :thinking:

Am I convinced that he can/will be? No.

But I've liked him ever since he played for Oregon and would be more than willing to give him a shot. Should he stick around that long.

andyg1984
03-18-2010, 11:06 AM
The year Clausen came out of high school he was THE top recruited QB in the nation. Literally every division 1A school was after him. I agree that Clausen is probably the better of the 2 QB's. Hell, with all the controversy surrounding Ben right now I wouldn't be too upset if we took Clausen. If Ben goes to jail you have a viable franchise QB to put in his place. If Ben is cleared of all wrong doing then you have some serious trade bait for future use. Who believes that Dixon is our future franchise QB? :thinking:

is is true that clausen showed up in a limo to annouce his commitment to ND? sounds a little excessive

darnik44
03-18-2010, 11:23 AM
is is true that clausen showed up in a limo to annouce his commitment to ND? sounds a little excessive

Yes it is. He also felt the need to have the press conference at the College Football Hall of Fame, and he guaranteed 3 National Championships. I've even heard he was wearing a white fur coat.

Here's a pic of him that day...

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t254/drew9399/JimmyClausen.jpg

Big T
03-18-2010, 12:10 PM
God I hate Jimmy Clausen....

andyg1984
03-18-2010, 12:16 PM
announced it at the college football hall of fame? lmao i did not know that ..

so is this years QB class better/worse than 2007 (jamarcus/quinn) ?

cmerrifield
03-18-2010, 12:25 PM
announced it at the college football hall of fame? lmao i did not know that ..

so is this years QB class better/worse than 2007 (jamarcus/quinn) ?

Well the college football hall of fame is in South Bend and because it wasnt an official Notre Dame press conference, in fact, Weiss didnt know about it when called it, he decided to have it at the hall of fame.

tburg68
03-18-2010, 01:41 PM
God I hate Jimmy Clausen....

I hate him too. I hate Thaddeus Gibson too. I am a Michigan Wolverine fan. I hate ALL ND and OSU players.

I can still unbiasly say that I think both will be very good pros, and if they would become Steelers, I would then love them. Same way I hate Tom Brady now because he is a stinkin Patriot. Loyalties change when affiliations change. Talent is talent though.

K Train
03-19-2010, 04:27 AM
Yes it is. He also felt the need to have the press conference at the College Football Hall of Fame, and he guaranteed 3 National Championships. I've even heard he was wearing a white fur coat.

Here's a pic of him that day...

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t254/drew9399/JimmyClausen.jpg

hes a rich prick, no doubt but a good prospect and a pretty polished QB. he grew up alot this past year imo.

as far as wootton is concerned...based on last year, sure 4th round sounds good but wootton=calais campbell and i do think hes a good player

Blazedby92
03-19-2010, 11:11 AM
is is true that clausen showed up in a limo to annouce his commitment to ND? sounds a little excessive


Sounds like a younger Ben NO THANK YOU, we already have a Drama Queen in Ben.