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darnik44
03-03-2010, 03:52 PM
I've begun editing my rankings for the final time this year. I haven't edited all the positional rankings yet (I have, just not on the site yet), but I have tenatively edited my top 100.

1. Ndamukong Suh, DT/DE, 6-4, 305, Nebraska

2. Eric Berry, S/CB, 5-11, 195, Tennessee*

3. Gerald McCoy, DT, 6-4, 295, Oklahoma*

4. Russell Okung, OT, 6-5, 300, Oklahoma State

5. C.J. Spiller, RB, 5-11, 190, Clemson

Read More... (http://www.nfldraftspot.com/component/content/article/37-positional-rankings/203-2010-nfl-draft-top-100-text-version.html)

K Train
03-03-2010, 04:13 PM
i think odrick and bradford are way to high.

thaddeus gibson is pissed hes not in the top 100, maybe thats just because i have a draft crush on him

also note that i hate bradford and would never select him, i would try my luck with paulus as an UDFA before i wasted a pick on bradford.

i like mike williams in there, everyones real down on him cause hes a douche bag lol

andyg1984
03-03-2010, 06:16 PM
i guess to say that graham has climbed the boards would be an understatement ...

the one question i have is spikes at 48 - which is behind tebow .. imo spikes is going to have a solid career as a 3-4 ILB whereas i am not sure if tebow will have a career ..

also, i know i am in the minority but i cannot see McClain as a top 10 player - very very solid career/low risk though .. there was just so much talent on that D imo which makes it tough to evaluate a LB, i used to be high on javier too but now i am really off that boat .. still love cody tho ..

tburg68
03-03-2010, 06:32 PM
whereas i am not sure if tebow will have a career

He will be a career backup QB. Could be a Pro Bowl TE.

andyg1984
03-03-2010, 07:40 PM
a ton of assumptions behind tebow being a pro-bowl TE i am not willing to make .. have you seen him block, catch and run routes?

as far as TE's go i will go with a pitta

darnik44
03-03-2010, 10:56 PM
Here are the positional rankings I have updated so far.

Quarterbacks

1. Sam Bradford, 6-4, 236, Oklahoma*

2. Tony Pike, 6-6, 223, Cincinnati

3. Jimmy Clausen, 6-3, 222, Notre Dame*

4. Colt McCoy, 6-1, 216, Texas

5. Tim Tebow, 6-3, 236, Florida

Read More... (http://www.nfldraftspot.com/positional-rankings/quarterbacks.html)


Running Backs

1. C.J. Spiller, 5-11, 190, Clemson

2. Jahvid Best, 5-10, 195, California*

3. Ryan Mathews, 5-11, 215, Fresno State*

4. Montario Hardesty, 6-1, 215, Tennessee

5. Jonathan Dwyer, 5-11, 228, Georgia Tech*

Read More... (http://www.nfldraftspot.com/positional-rankings/running-backs.html)


Wide Receivers

1. Mardy Gilyard, 6-0, 187, Cincinnati

2. Dez Bryant, 6-2, 225, Oklahoma State*

3. Golden Tate, 5-10, 199, Notre Dame*

4. Damian Williams, 6-1, 197, Southern California*

5. Arrelious Benn, 6-1, 219, Illinois*

Read More... (http://www.nfldraftspot.com/positional-rankings/wide-receivers.html)


Tight Ends

1. Jermaine Gresham, 6-5, 261, Oklahoma

2. Dorin Dickerson, 6-1, 226, Pitt

3. Dennis Pitta, 6-5, 250, Brigham Young

4. Ed Dickson, 6-4, 249, Oregon

5. Aaron Hernandez, 6-2, 245, Florida*

Read More... (http://www.nfldraftspot.com/positional-rankings/tight-ends.html)


Tackles

1. Russell Okung, 6-5, 300, Oklahoma State

2. Bryan Bulaga, 6-6, 305, Iowa*

3. Anthony Davis, 6-6, 330, Rutgers*

4. Bruce Campbell, 6-7, 295, Maryland*

5. Trent Williams, 6-5, 305, Oklahoma

Read More... (http://www.nfldraftspot.com/positional-rankings/tackles.html)

K Train
03-03-2010, 11:24 PM
pike and bradford over clausen?

damn

tburg68
03-04-2010, 01:33 AM
a ton of assumptions behind tebow being a pro-bowl TE i am not willing to make .. have you seen him block, catch and run routes?

as far as TE's go i will go with a pitta

Tebow proved at the Combine that he is a superior athlete. His 3 cone and shuttle times were better than most RB's and WR's! With his football sense, I have no doubt in my mind that he could become a Pro Bowl TE or H back. He can't throw, so he will never be a good QB, all IMHO of course.

--- Added 3/3/2010 at 11:33 PM ---


pike and bradford over clausen?

damn

As an avid ND and Clausen hater, I can unbiasly say that Clausen to me is by far the best pro QB in this draft. I think he will be a very good pro. Bradford has to prove his arm is sound. Pike has a ton of questions to answer before he will be a good pro.

K Train
03-04-2010, 02:20 AM
clausen is by far the superior QB....maybe hes maxed out, thats accurate but hes got all the tools to be solid at least. bradford has all the tools to fail

darnik44
03-04-2010, 07:26 AM
clausen is by far the superior QB....maybe hes maxed out, thats accurate but hes got all the tools to be solid at least. bradford has all the tools to fail

Here's my deal with Clausen. The kid grew up with a silver spoon stuck in his ***. He has no clue what hard work is. He's an immature clown who's a me first guy. I don't expect him to pan out in the NFL. I only have him where I do because he does have some good physical ability, other wise I would have him as a 4th rounder.

cmerrifield
03-04-2010, 08:27 AM
I lived in South Bend when Clausen was a freshman and he held his own press conference the first season to tell the press he was going to be the starter, Weiss had no idea this was coming. But, he spent three years under Weiss and has matured some, I think the fact that Weiss was the HC will help Clausen, not sure he is a first rounder, but will be gone by the fourth for sure

coldrolled
03-04-2010, 09:56 AM
Here's my deal with Clausen. The kid grew up with a silver spoon stuck in his ***. He has no clue what hard work is. He's an immature clown who's a me first guy. I don't expect him to pan out in the NFL. I only have him where I do because he does have some good physical ability, other wise I would have him as a 4th rounder.

I say his center made him look good... Eric Olsen:yellowthumb:

andyg1984
03-04-2010, 10:29 AM
[QUOTE=tburg68;335593]Tebow proved at the Combine that he is a superior athlete. His 3 cone and shuttle times were better than most RB's and WR's! With his football sense, I have no doubt in my mind that he could become a Pro Bowl TE or H back. He can't throw, so he will never be a good QB, all IMHO of course.[quote=tburg68;335593]



the only way there could no doubt in your mind is if you have completely lost it .. jk .. but seriously, tebow is a loser ..

on a tangent to your post above pouncey made tebow look good .. pouncey is our guy - not olsen

darnik44
03-04-2010, 11:05 AM
Updated 3/3/10


Quarterbacks

1. Sam Bradford, 6-4, 236, Oklahoma*

2. Tony Pike, 6-6, 223, Cincinnati

3. Jimmy Clausen, 6-3, 222, Notre Dame*

4. Colt McCoy, 6-1, 216, Texas

5. Tim Tebow, 6-3, 236, Florida

Read More... (http://www.nfldraftspot.com/positional-rankings/quarterbacks.html)


Running Backs

1. C.J. Spiller, 5-11, 190, Clemson

2. Ryan Mathews, 5-11, 215, Fresno State*

3. Jahvid Best, 5-10, 195, California*

4. Montario Hardesty, 6-1, 215, Tennessee

5. Jonathan Dwyer, 5-11, 228, Georgia Tech*

Read More... (http://www.nfldraftspot.com/positional-rankings/running-backs.html)


Wide Receivers

1. Mardy Gilyard, 6-0, 187, Cincinnati

2. Dez Bryant, 6-2, 225, Oklahoma State*

3. Golden Tate, 5-10, 199, Notre Dame*

4. Damian Williams, 6-1, 197, Southern California*

5. Arrelious Benn, 6-1, 219, Illinois*

Read More... (http://www.nfldraftspot.com/positional-rankings/wide-receivers.html)


Tight Ends

1. Jermaine Gresham, 6-5, 261, Oklahoma

2. Dorin Dickerson, 6-1, 226, Pitt

3. Dennis Pitta, 6-5, 250, Brigham Young

4. Ed Dickson, 6-4, 249, Oregon

5. Aaron Hernandez, 6-2, 245, Florida*

Read More... (http://www.nfldraftspot.com/positional-rankings/tight-ends.html)


Tackles

1. Russell Okung, 6-5, 300, Oklahoma State

2. Bryan Bulaga, 6-6, 305, Iowa*

3. Anthony Davis, 6-6, 330, Rutgers*

4. Bruce Campbell, 6-7, 295, Maryland*

5. Trent Williams, 6-5, 305, Oklahoma

Read More... (http://www.nfldraftspot.com/positional-rankings/tackles.html)


Guards

1. Mike Iupati, 6-5, 330, Idaho

2. Jon Asamoah, 6-5, 315, Illinois

3. John Jerry, 6-5, 345, Mississippi

4. Mike Johnson, 6-6, 305, Alabama

5. Brandon Carter, 6-7, 355, Texas Tech

Read More... (http://www.nfldraftspot.com/positional-rankings/guards.html)


Centers

1. Maurkice Pouncey, 6-4, 304, Florida*

2. Eric Olsen, 6-4, 306, Notre Dame

3. J.D. Walton, 6-3, 300, Baylor

4. Thomas Austin, 6-3, 315, Clemson

5. Kevin Mathews, 6-4, 310, Texas A&M

Read More... (http://www.nfldraftspot.com/positional-rankings/centers.html)


Defensive Ends

1. Brandon Graham, 6-1, 268, Michigan

2. Derrick Morgan, 6-3, 266, Georgia Tech*

3. Jason Pierre-Paul, 6-5, 270, South Florida*

4. Jerry Hughes, 6-2, 255, Texas Christian

5. Everson Griffin, 6-3, 273, Southern California*

Read More... (http://www.nfldraftspot.com/positional-rankings/defensive-ends.html)


Defensive Tackles

1. Ndamukong Suh, 6-4, 307, Nebraska

2. Gerald McCoy, 6-4, 295, Oklahoma*

3. Jared Odrick, 6-5, 304, Penn State

4. Dan Williams, 6-2, 327, Tennessee

5. Terrence Cody, 6-4, 354, Alabama

Read More... (http://www.nfldraftspot.com/positional-rankings/defensive-tackles.html)


Outside Linebackers

1. Sean Weatherspoon, 6-1, 235, Missouri

2. Navorro Bowman, 6-1, 228, Penn State*

3. Sergio Kindle, 6-3, 260, Texas

4. Dekoda Watson, 6-2, 226, Florida State

5. Eric Norwood, 6-0, 257, South Carolina

Read More... (http://www.nfldraftspot.com/positional-rankings/outside-linebackers.html)


Inside Linebackers

1. Rolando McClain, 6-4, 250, Alabama*

2. Daryl Washington, 6-2, 234, Texas Christian

3. Brandon Spikes, 6-3, 245, Florida

4. Roddrick Muckelroy, 6-2, 235, Texas

5. Pat Angerer, 6-1, 234, Iowa

Read More... (http://www.nfldraftspot.com/positional-rankings/inside-linebackers.html)


Cornerbacks

1. Joe Haden, 5-11, 185, Florida*

2. Kyle Wilson, 5-10, 190, Boise State

3. Devin McCourty, 5-11, 190, Rutgers

4. Kareem Jackson, 5-11, 192, Alabama*

5. Patrick Robinson, 5-11, 192, Florida State

Read More... (http://www.nfldraftspot.com/positional-rankings/cornerbacks.html)


Free Safeties

1. Earl Thomas, 5-10, 208, Texas#

2. Nate Allen, 6-0, 207, South Florida

3. Major Wright, 5-11, 206, Florida*

4. Reshad Jones, 6-2, 205, Georgia*

5. Morgan Burnett, 6-1, 209, Georgia Tech*

Read More... (http://www.nfldraftspot.com/positional-rankings/free-safeties.html)


Strong Safeties

1. Eric Berry, 6-0, 211, Tennessee*

2. Taylor Mays, 6-3, 230, Southern California

3. Chad Jones, 6-1, 214, Louisiana State*

4. Larry Asante, 6-0, 212, Nebraska

5. Darrell Stuckey, 5-11, 205, Kansas

Read More... (http://www.nfldraftspot.com/positional-rankings/strong-safeties.html)


Top 100

1. Ndamukong Suh, DT/DE, 6-4, 305, Nebraska

2. Eric Berry, S/CB, 5-11, 195, Tennessee*

3. Gerald McCoy, DT, 6-4, 295, Oklahoma*

4. Russell Okung, OT, 6-5, 300, Oklahoma State

5. C.J. Spiller, RB, 5-11, 190, Clemson

6. Earl Thomas, S/CB, 5-10, 190, Texas#

7. Bryan Bulaga, OT, 6-6, 305, Iowa*

8. Brandon Graham, DE/OLB, 6-2, 270, Michigan

9. Rolando McClain, ILB, 6-4, 250, Alabama*

10. Anthony Davis, OT, 6-6, 330, Rutgers*

Read More... (http://www.nfldraftspot.com/component/content/article/37-positional-rankings/203-2010-nfl-draft-top-100-text-version.html)

tburg68
03-04-2010, 12:04 PM
but seriously, tebow is a loser

Again I want to state that I am not a Florida fan or a Tebow fan, BUT.........isn't this the ONE arguement that you CAN'T make?

andyg1984
03-04-2010, 01:01 PM
maybe i am biased because i, like the majority of non-gator floridians, have absolutely had it with tebow .. he will suck in the NFL ... i think he could be a good college football analyst though ..

same thing with myron rolle .. every1 who has had to watched FSU knows he is EXTREMELY overhyped for non-football reasons ...

$teelersRule
03-04-2010, 01:49 PM
Thanks Darnik just happened to catch that Pauncy and Olsen's schools are backwords. but nice job :clap:

coldrolled
03-04-2010, 02:09 PM
Again I want to state that I am not a Florida fan or a Tebow fan, BUT.........isn't this the ONE arguement that you CAN'T make?

Tebow reading a defense, plays hard and just playing in a dink and dunk offense, you dont think he can do that??

there are a lot of lame QB's in the NFL. I think Tebow can do better with his athletic abilities than many of the current 2nd string and a few 1st string QB's.

Big T
03-04-2010, 02:12 PM
but seriously, tebow is a loser.

quite the contrary...

K Train
03-04-2010, 02:14 PM
tebow will be a terrible pro QB, i mean really awful.

i refuse to even debate it, theres nothing to lead me to believe different. hes a 6th round prospect with a legendary resume

andyg1984
03-04-2010, 02:58 PM
quite the contrary...

care to elaborate? you are a gator fan, right? haha

i am of course talking about him as a football player .. i know a few chicks who know tebow personally and they say that he really is as advertised from a moral standpoint or whatever .. they really tried to get with him and he would not have any of it - and these are hot chicks .. from what i heard percy was not as shy .. lol

tburg68
03-04-2010, 03:56 PM
tebow will be a terrible pro QB, i mean really awful.

i refuse to even debate it, theres nothing to lead me to believe different. hes a 6th round prospect with a legendary resume

I could not agree more! That is why I can't believe he isn't smart enough to try and make it as a TE. Wouldn't you rather have Tebow lining up on the other side of Heath in 2011+ than Spieth?

BlackGold4vr
03-04-2010, 04:44 PM
tebow will be a terrible pro QB, i mean really awful.

i refuse to even debate it, theres nothing to lead me to believe different. hes a 6th round prospect with a legendary resume


:plus1:

I agree 100% Does the name Charlie Ward ring a bell? 93' Heismann Trophy winner and QB for the national champion Florida State Seminoles. Didn't even get drafted and went on to have a very mediocre NBA career as a very average point guard.

Tebow's best chance to make an impact in the NFL would be as a tight end. :2cents:

K Train
03-04-2010, 07:12 PM
tebow=dallas clark

same size, skill set, didnt play TE in college

andyg1984
03-04-2010, 11:08 PM
huh?? ... dallas clark won the john mackey award man ..

--- Added 3/4/2010 at 09:08 PM ---

http://www.hawkeyesports.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/clark_dallas00.html

tburg68
03-05-2010, 12:11 AM
huh?? ... dallas clark won the john mackey award man ..

--- Added 3/4/2010 at 09:08 PM ---

http://www.hawkeyesports.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/clark_dallas00.html

Tebow is EVERY bit the athlete Clark is, with the body type to match. I would absolutely LOVE him as a TE in our offense. Are you kidding me, Heath and Tebow would be insane. Unfortunately, Tebow believes he is a QB, and some dope in some FO agrees with him. What a waste of a potential Pro Bowl TE.

K Train
03-05-2010, 04:16 AM
clark played LB for the most part throughout college....im just sayin hes a pro TE that didnt play there MUCH in college. Tebow was born to be a TE, a phenom at TE but he has the ego of QB

andyg1984
03-05-2010, 08:20 AM
i agree that shebow is a better TE than a QB and he is a phenomenal athlete - that 3 cone was INSANE ...

i am skeptical is all .. tburgh, - like i think you said "not a doubt in your mind" .. i don't have a doubt in my mind that the sun will rise, but tebow becoming a pro bowl TE is a whole different calculation ..

i would not be surprised to see him become some type of utility player, it is just that he will be nothing more than a backup at whatever he does imo and probably does not make some rosters in this league for football reasons

Big T
03-05-2010, 02:12 PM
care to elaborate? you are a gator fan, right?

I am a gator fan but I never said he will be a good pro...he has the intelligence and the athleticism to be ok in the right system with the right coaching but I don't think he will have a good career as a pro(QB)....

Referring to my "quite the contrary" statement, you said Tebow was a loser and that is something that is obviously untrue....That is one aspect that can't even be debated...

andyg1984
03-05-2010, 04:25 PM
right, that is why i said i was talking about him as a football player .. i agree he is a cool dude and all

DanRooney
03-06-2010, 04:59 AM
If Tebow ever gets a chance to start, he will have a better career than Mark Sanchez. Write it down.

Steeler Vet
03-06-2010, 10:26 AM
If Tebow ever gets a chance to start, he will have a better career than Mark Sanchez. Write it down.


Well on Wed or Thursday I heard cowherd on Espn talk about the Steelers getting Tebow saying it would be a awsome fit can come in a couple of plays not be rushed and learn. I kinda agree.

darnik44
03-06-2010, 11:54 AM
Well on Wed or Thursday I heard cowherd on Espn talk about the Steelers getting Tebow saying it would be a awsome fit can come in a couple of plays not be rushed and learn. I kinda agree.

As crazy as it sounds, I wouldn't bitch if they took him 18th...

andyg1984
03-06-2010, 01:12 PM
i can't beleive what i am reading .. maybe all the roth stuff is getting to your head ..

Captcoolhand
03-06-2010, 01:22 PM
Tebow is not worth a 1st rd pick. IMO

Dixon does pretty well for himself.

coach
03-06-2010, 03:36 PM
I like the frequent updates on your draft site. I have been looking at some of the other mocks that haven't been updated since long before the combine and have a hard time spending too much time reading them as a result.

Zachintosh66
03-06-2010, 03:46 PM
This years QB class in general sucks... Tebow has the effort, but remains to be seen if he can transfer over to NFL, most think not. Regardless itll be a couple seasons untill he gets a shot.

Never really been on the Bradford bandwagon. Pike isnt all that. Colt McCoy will prolly be the most successful but he reminds me of Brain Greise... has the skill but no leadership. And for a NFL QB, you have to be a leader.

My sleeper is LeFevour. Clausen has tools but has been in a NFL type "system" for 3 years and hasnt done jack... He'll prolly be a journeyman backup his entire career.


This years class is so lame the Rams could of had the chance to sign any of them but yet they opted to sign AJ Feely... i know i know they will still prolly bring in another QB at some point as well and let AJ be the primary vet backup... im just saying tho AJ was 2nd/3rd String in Philly and Car.

tburg68
03-06-2010, 07:02 PM
If Tebow ever gets a chance to start, he will have a better career than Mark Sanchez. Write it down.


Well on Wed or Thursday I heard cowherd on Espn talk about the Steelers getting Tebow saying it would be a awsome fit can come in a couple of plays not be rushed and learn. I kinda agree.


As crazy as it sounds, I wouldn't bitch if they took him 18th...

Did aliens take over your bodies, or did you three hit the crack pipe one too many times?

darnik44
03-08-2010, 09:34 AM
Tebow's fate is in the hands of his future offensive coordinator. If a team plans to use him as a conventional QB, they will fail. For him to succeed, we will have to see an offense we haven't seen before.

If the Steelers took him 18th, that would be the reach of all reaches. But, it would say they have a plan in mind.

When I consider the Steelers taking Tebow, my better judgement sort of leaves me. Tebow is going to be so high profile, I just don't think I would mind all that attention being centered out of Pittsburgh.

Immagine the anticipation of Tebow being on an NFL field.

Crazy I know.

If nothing else, maybe Tebow could take Ben under his wing and make him a born again virgin.

steelcitysfinestXL
03-08-2010, 09:46 AM
Well on Wed or Thursday I heard cowherd on Espn talk about the Steelers getting Tebow saying it would be a awsome fit can come in a couple of plays not be rushed and learn. I kinda agree. Day 3 pick... i wouldn't jump off of a bridge but it wouldnt make any sense! Dixon is a better back up right now!


As crazy as it sounds, I wouldn't bitch if they took him 18th... I just threw up in my mouth a little bit... im okay though!


If the Steelers took him 18th, that would be the reach of all reaches. But, it would say they have a plan in mind.
If nothing else, maybe Tebow could take Ben under his wing and make him a born again virgin.

What would that plan be!?!? And as for the part in BOLD... i'd rather put him on a reality tv show like "BIG BEN's Flavor of Love" -or- "For the Love of Roethlisberger"

coldrolled
03-08-2010, 09:50 AM
The Browns have 11 picks or more. He will be a Brown.