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75Steeler
02-26-2010, 12:56 PM
Steelers move focus to safety Clark
Hampton agrees to deal; Franchise tag placed on Reed
Friday, February 26, 2010
By Ed Bouchette and Gerry Dulac, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette
Lake Fong/Post-GazetteSteelers safety Ryan Clark is scheduled to become a free agent in one week.With two of their three priorities secured, the Steelers will try to lock up safety Ryan Clark before he can become an unrestricted free agent one week from today.

The Steelers and nose tackle Casey Hampton came to a three-year contract agreement Thursday worth $21.3 million that includes a $6.5 million signing bonus. Then, they placed the franchise tag on kicker Jeff Reed, meaning he will earn $2,814,000 in 2010 -- the average of the top five kickers in the NFL.

They declined to use the transition tag that was still available to them to protect some of their rights to Clark, a tag that expired at 4 p.m. Thursday. Had they done so, they would have paid him $6,011,000 this season. Instead, they hope to negotiate a multiyear contract with their starting free safety of the past four seasons.

Team officials had identified Clark, Hampton and Reed as their top priorities to sign before free agency begins.

"Ryan is one of the three starters ... we've taken care of one, moved closer with another and we'll continue to talk," Steelers director of football operations Kevin Colbert said in Indianapolis, where the NFL scouting combine opened Thursday. "With all of these guys, they want to stay, we want them to stay. Usually, when you have that type of mindset on both sides, it helps get deals done."

Clark, 30, often has said he wants to remain with the Steelers and continue to play with Pro Bowl strong safety Troy Polamalu, but Polamalu in a way could prevent that. Polamalu was the second-highest paid safety in the NFL last season and will count $8,295,000 against their salary cap in 2010. Clark believes he belongs among the best safeties in the league and surely will want to be paid as such.

"He's offering himself at hometown discount, so to speak," agent Joel Turner said. "We're not asking for more than most people would. Keep in mind, Ryan is the best free safety not only in unrestricted free agency but restricted free agency. He's the best free safety in the business ... he does a marvelous job of quarterbacking the defense. This is not a situation where this is some average guy. Ryan is superior at his position."

By placing the franchise tag on Reed, the Steelers virtually eliminated him from leaving in free agency. It would provide the Steelers with two first-round draft choices in return if he signs elsewhere.

"Our goal is to lock Jeff up long term and have him finish his career with the Steelers," Colbert said. "He's aware when the process gets to this point, we all need to buy some time. As long as players and agents are willing to stay with the team, and the team wants you, you're going to get a deal done. We want to keep Jeff as long as we can."

Hampton, who will be 33 years old next season, will remain with the Steelers through the 2012 season under the new deal. Hampton would have been paid a $7 million salary if he had been franchised.

"It was very important for our organization to have a player of Casey's caliber signed for what we hope is the rest of his career," Colbert said. "Casey has been a big part of our success, and we think he has a lot of football left. Plus, we think he's one of our true leaders, and to get this free-agency period kicked off early by getting him locked up, means a lot to our organization."



Read more: http://www.pittsburghpostgazette.com/pg/10057/1038745-66.stm?cmpid=newspanel2#ixzz0gf6XDDwi

cmerrifield
02-26-2010, 02:08 PM
Clark is not one of the best safeties in the league, I am not sure he is even the best in this class of free agents. I hope the Steelers dont over pay for him. I think Clark is decent especially with Troy, but he is not amazing without Troy as we saw this last season.

steelersbabex25
02-26-2010, 03:06 PM
So happy this is happening. I love Ryan Clark. I think he's a hard hitting safety and he's a good guy. I would be very happy if they keep him.

LatrobePA
02-26-2010, 03:58 PM
Sorry, but Clark is an OK player at best! We wouln't miss a beat with out him...

SnakeEyes43
02-26-2010, 04:22 PM
Sorry, but Clark is an OK player at best! We wouln't miss a beat with out him...

EXACTLY, he is no where near the best FS "in the business". Without Troy back there cutting the field into fourths for our DBs, they looked lost. I wouldn't be to upset if they cut him. He needs to do less head-hunting and focus on better coverage anyway, imho.

Zachintosh66
02-26-2010, 04:54 PM
Ryan Clark is barely average. Yes, he can hit but the rest of his game is suspect. Personally I think he gets hung out to dry a lot b/c they let Troy do whatever he wants. Gay is a realistic #4 CB who is starting and Ike seems to disappear at times.

Although our depth at the position is horrible, Carter shouldn't even have a uni on and Mundy is a scrub. That being said we almost HAVE TO sign Clark.

My dream senerio is: Earl Thomas #1, Best OL #2, Best CB #3... but i know this wont unfold. *oh well* :dunno:

Hova8551
02-26-2010, 05:06 PM
Clark is definitely a better than average safety. You cant do to much when you have Carter next to you. If you Polamalu and Clark are health they are a beast tandem.

Steeler Vet
02-26-2010, 06:00 PM
Im pretty sure the Steelers know what there doing they one a Superbowl with him in the safty position right.

cmerrifield
02-26-2010, 06:07 PM
Im pretty sure the Steelers know what there doing they one a Superbowl with him in the safty position right.

I am not saying he is horrible or that they should not resign him, others might be but I am not, I am just saying he and his agent think he is one of the best safeties in the league and that is just not true. He shouldnt be paid top dollar because he is not worth top dollar.

LatrobePA
02-26-2010, 07:12 PM
Boy they sure looked like a SB winning team in 09'!

Steeler Vet
02-27-2010, 09:57 AM
I am not saying he is horrible or that they should not resign him, others might be but I am not, I am just saying he and his agent think he is one of the best safeties in the league and that is just not true. He shouldnt be paid top dollar because he is not worth top dollar.

No def agree with you he is not a top Saftey. If the steelers can sign him for decent price and troy is back healthy we need help in other areas.

JensK
02-27-2010, 01:40 PM
Im pretty sure the Steelers know what there doing they one a Superbowl with him in the safty position right.

They won a SB with Hartwig at center too, and he sucks. Just because you are on a SB team does not make you good, which Clark is not. He kinda sucks in coverage and is just avg at best against the run. Sure, we all like the big hits from time to time, but it doesnt really make up for all his missques

LatrobePA
02-27-2010, 05:36 PM
Let Clark test the open market...See ya dude!

steelersbabex25
02-27-2010, 06:02 PM
Ryan Clark is by no means in any way shape or form even close to one of the top safeties in the league. It's hard to be compared to guys like Troy and Brian Dawkins and Adrian Wilson. However, I think Clark plays much better next to Polamalu, and we have other more important things to take care of in the offseason than to look for another starting safety.

75Steeler
02-27-2010, 06:50 PM
I'm for signing him for several reasons. #1 is he is good, not great but good. #2 he knows the Steelers D and how they react. #3 He plays well with Troy. #4 he wants to finish his career as a Steeler (there is something to be said for that). #5 I love to watch the man hit.

cmerrifield
02-27-2010, 07:44 PM
You know, I just got a tweet that said they are far apart on guaranteed money, Carter plays well with Troy just not for Troy, maybe we sign him and let Clark walk or sign Sharper if the Saints let him walk

scott0326
02-28-2010, 05:25 AM
I don't see Sharper coming here at all..

coldrolled
02-28-2010, 11:24 PM
Ryan Clark is by no means in any way shape or form even close to one of the top safeties in the league. It's hard to be compared to guys like Troy and Brian Dawkins and Adrian Wilson. However, I think Clark plays much better next to Polamalu, and we have other more important things to take care of in the offseason than to look for another starting safety.

Hard to say anything bad about him, i remember a certain Raven RB getting clocked in a championship game, he is always in on running plays with tackles or he re-routes the runner into the LB's.

clark covers ground and hits. troy and clark make a good team.. sign clark for sure.

we really need a CB from the last draft to show up. or pick the #2 CB if available this year.

if not get an OL next if one drops or get Taylor Mays... SS/FS/ILB/ST

cmerrifield
03-01-2010, 09:31 AM
The last thing I heard was that they are going to let him hit the market unless he comes down a significant amount of money. So, we could loose Clark. After the Denver game, I think its not that big of a deal, Carter can play Clark's position just fine, as long as Troy is back there. I do think if they dont resign Clark, we need a FS early in this draft.

BlitzburghRockCity
03-01-2010, 09:50 AM
Carter has proven that he can play the run pretty well but he absolutely blows in pass coverage. At this point the pickens are slim at Safety in FA, and we all know we wouldn't go out and spend a lot of money on one anyways, so keeping Clark is the best option unless they want to go Safety on day 1. Troy is there, but his health has been a concern the last few years so you can't count on him for 16 games.

Clark knows he's got a chance to make a lot of money in FA, so whether or not he will give us a home town discount is still up for debate when it all comes down to it. He may be out of position and miss some tackles, but considering the alternative we have, he is still the best option right now IMO. Safety needs to be addressed soon for this team regardless of what happens though.

Gettysburgh_Steel
03-01-2010, 04:14 PM
The article had its pros and cons . Some i might agree with , for instance " Ryan is the best unrestricted , or restricted , free agent " , currently available ? I can maybe get that down , but to go on and say " he is the best free safty in the business ", is taking it a little too far . Spoken like a true agent that wants his cut of the dough . If he leaves , we will be fine . If he chooses to stay , we will still be fine . I like his hard hits , but he is not all that and a bag of chips . I say if he is loyal , he will stay .If not , let him go . We have some sort of depth at that position to at least allow us some breathing room anyway . We need to start getting a little younger on defense , and i am sure Ryan knows that . Is he gonna hamper , or help us ? To me the ball is in his court , not ours . I think i read somewhere that he loves the City , and would not mind ending his carreer here . Well , this is his chance to prove it .

JensK
03-01-2010, 10:52 PM
Carter does well when he has to step in for Clark. He actually did just as well as Clark did. He just cant stand in instead of Troy.

SteelCityKid5
03-02-2010, 03:55 PM
I saw the following on Ed Bouchette's chat transcript today:

Hi Ed what do you think will happen with Ryan Clark signed before FA?

Ed Bouchette: I think you left out a few words. What will happen with Ryan Clark if he is NOT signed before Friday? I think he will then sign elsewhere. And the way talks are not going with him, I expect he will not be signed by Friday.
Read more: http://post-gazette.com/pg/10061/1039708-66.stm#ixzz0h3DBjHJE


Just wondering what everyone thought about this. Also, who would replace him... Mundy or an FA?

igor0190
03-02-2010, 04:32 PM
The Frenchman: Ed, does it seem to you like Ryan Clark (together with his agent) is over-playing his hand? I understand the agent represents the player, but does he really believe Clark is "the best free safety in the business" as he said last week? Seems like the gap between what Clark wants/believes he deserves and what the Steelers would be willing to pay must be very large.

Ed Bouchette: My understanding is that's the case, that the sides are far apart and I do not expect them to get a deal done by Friday.


Sounds like Clark thinks he's a lot better than he is.

steelerfan11
03-02-2010, 04:36 PM
Clark wants way too much money. I read on another board that Clark was looking for 8-9Million a year. They didn't post a link so idk if it is accurate or not.

I think they go after a FA.

cmerrifield
03-02-2010, 04:59 PM
Clark has said he respects Troy and is not asking for Troy-type money which would be 8-9 million year. So I think that is wrong. I think he is probably asking for 6 though, I think if we are spending 6, I would rather have Sharper for 2 years, one to play and one to help the youngsters

coldrolled
03-03-2010, 11:54 AM
Clark wants way too much money. I read on another board that Clark was looking for 8-9Million a year. They didn't post a link so idk if it is accurate or not.

I think they go after a FA.

why is clark not tendered or tagged so we get a top draft pick if he leaves???

can we not do this with him...

Richmond Rukus
03-03-2010, 04:46 PM
why is clark not tendered or tagged so we get a top draft pick if he leaves???

can we not do this with him...

I'm not great with the offseason rules, but I'll take a stab at it, although someone with a little more knowledge will probably be better to explain. We already used the Franchise tag on Reed, which means we could use the transition tag. If another team makes an offer to Clark, we would have the right to match, but if we do not, we would receive no compensation in the terms of draft picks as we would with the Franchise tag. I also believe it comes with some guaranteed salary equal to those in the top percentage or number of players int he league at that position. Should he not receive other offers, not sure what kind of 1 year salary we would be paying him.

I believe Clark is a UFA, and to my knowledge, tenders can only be given to RFA. Again, not sure if this is accurate. Kind of curious to see if I got it right.

Goodfrom55
03-03-2010, 05:26 PM
Gotta wonder if they're gonna let him walk, try to trade down to get either Taylor Mays of Eric Berry.

LatrobePA
03-03-2010, 05:35 PM
I see him gone...