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Gettysburgh_Steel
11-15-2009, 05:23 PM
Once again the special teams play has let this team down . They freakin suck , and that is all there is to it .
This game is not that significant in the larger scheme of things , but omg , why can we not fix the special team blunders ?
Jeff Reed has got to find a new team ! He can not even reach the endzone on a kick-off , and that is hurtfull to our team .
What is 3 points compared to 6 on kick-off returns .
We are still the champions i know . Something has got to be done with our special teams play , and i mean now .
To myself , this was a plain downright special teams breakdown loss once again .
It,s not too late to fix it now , but it is not too soon either !
Special teams SUCK !!!!!!!!!

HUNT4SEVEN
11-15-2009, 05:48 PM
They have been horrible all year.................

jpele
11-15-2009, 07:00 PM
Kick returners lick their lips when they see us on the schedule.

dunfbe
11-15-2009, 07:05 PM
Kick returners lick their lips when they see us on the schedule.

Don't you get a sense of dread and fear everytime Reed kicks off? I am almost shocked when the returned is actually tackled in his own half...

BlitzburghRockCity
11-15-2009, 07:13 PM
Reed's kickoff's are terrible, the average starting position for teams is about the 31 yd line. He can't kick them deeper than that 10-15 yd line for whatever reason.

The kick off coverage is terrible, 3 KO's returned for TD's in half a season is pathetic.

DSep is doing well atleast and the punt coverage units aren't quite as bad, but still in general this unit was the difference today in a close game.

jpele
11-15-2009, 07:21 PM
Don't you get a sense of dread and fear everytime Reed kicks off? I am almost shocked when the returned is actually tackled in his own half...

I think I would honestly bring Petr Czech back. His kickoff hit the endzone and although I have no stats, I think he was good with field goals. If they don't want to get rid of Reed cut Carey Davis, we wouldn't be the only team to have a kickoff specialist.

Big T
11-15-2009, 07:22 PM
As i said earlier, D Sep needs to start practicing kickoffs in practice and start kicking off.

LatrobePA
11-15-2009, 07:50 PM
Dsep has been less than impressive!

LarryNJ
11-15-2009, 07:56 PM
I never thought it would be possible but they are worse than last year. I was so excited before the season thinking we would be way better with D-Sep and Logan.

Blazedby92
11-15-2009, 08:14 PM
Yeah Spec. teams was horrible but what about the offense in the redzone all day and not punch it in once. I blame the lose on the offense.

CNY_STEELER_FAN
11-15-2009, 11:31 PM
DSep has nothing to do with the 3+ touch down returns we've given up on kick-off's this year. And...after seeing Berger punt for Bronco's, I have no complaints with him atm. :)

Reed ... I was a bit surprised they didn't bench him after his last arrest and bring in the Czech for a week. Unless Reed is playing injured, there is little excuse for his on field kick-off behavior.

I'm couldn't watch the game, but listening to it on the radio, it didn't feel like our players were quite as excited as the Bengals. And apparently, the only way we're gonna beat Bengals in playoffs, is with a healthy Troy. =/

75Steeler
11-16-2009, 11:57 AM
When the ran it back for the TD Reed was the only player at the end who had a shot at bringing him down and it looked like Jeff just got out of his way. Jeff needs to learn that kicking field goals is only part of his job. He did make that tackle later in the game but it was too late for me. Reed is leaving a bad impression on the fans.

Zachintosh66
11-16-2009, 02:38 PM
You know what... Im about done with this Logan experiment too...

We have Wallace, Lewis, Moore and Burrnett who can return too. Cut his *** and bring in a guy who can cover and tackle. Hell, Put FWP in there, maybe he could contribute to this team yet. He'd prolly get hurt after 2 attempts and be in the locker room with his training room buddy Troy. Anyone got Piotr Czech's phone number at UFL New York?

Logan was awesome in the pre-season against a bunch of scrubs. "Redman Syndrome"

--- Added 11/16/2009 at 12:38 PM ---

Looking at Stats now:

Logan is #26 in the NFL in Return ave.
Jeff Reed has one Touchback this year.
Reeds KO ave 60yds (37th)
KO Ret team is allowing a ave of 25.9 (5th worst)
DSep is 27th in Punting ave.
But PR coverage isnt as bad (19th)

as a team:
Pitt is 30th in kicking
and 26th in punting

weidnerr
11-17-2009, 10:34 PM
Logan hasn't done enough to keep his spot. He has started running like he's scared. No burst. Logan, Sweed, Reed, have been No shows on coverage. Sweed and Logan couldn't tackle anyone. Logan runs down so fast he runs right past the returner. You need people who can contain and then explode on someone. Take away the 96 yard return and we blow Cincy away. Punt coverage sucks too. I agree I think its time for Reed to go after the two No attempts at tackles. He is struggling just to make extra point and short fg's. Most of them are just barely inside the post from close. He blew the Bears game and even last year in the playoffs I would have been shaking if he would have had to make a game winning FG which he didn't have to in the playoffs.
Why didn't we keep a couple of our excellant kickoff cover guys from last year. Get them back and dump Sweed and Logan. The running back we got from Green Bay did better than Logan. Logan had burst in preseason but now he hesitates.

steelersforever1983
11-17-2009, 10:48 PM
what happened to all the praise about him now? really hard to return stuff in the nfl when all the other players have the same speed. can't put the kicker to curb during the season. kicking ain't easy lets face it. plus not scoring in redzone hurt more than the kickoff return. your panicking to much look at the record we'll still make the playoffs.

weidnerr
11-17-2009, 11:13 PM
Not panicking. Logan and Sweed are not bringing anything to the table. Logan is too small. Sweed can't catch anymore. He drops very easy catches. Great at Texas, a bust at Pittsburgh. Reed knows he won't be back next year. You can tell he isn't as confident as he use to be. He also use to try to tackle people? If he would have done that when he was a rookie he would have already took a hike.

Zachintosh66
11-17-2009, 11:22 PM
How many threads are we going to have about the special teams? :lol:

Big T
11-17-2009, 11:34 PM
How many threads are we going to have about the special teams? :lol:

I was gonna ask the same thing

JensK
11-18-2009, 04:13 AM
Not panicking. Logan and Sweed are not bringing anything to the table. Logan is too small. Sweed can't catch anymore. He drops very easy catches. Great at Texas, a bust at Pittsburgh. Reed knows he won't be back next year. You can tell he isn't as confident as he use to be. He also use to try to tackle people? If he would have done that when he was a rookie he would have already took a hike.

Bringing up Sweeds inability to catch a ball on a ST thread is awesome...

Logan is doing alright, however he needs know when to take a knee and when to get run it. I would like to see Wallace and Burnett on those returns tho. Especially burnett.