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steelcitysfinestXL
07-13-2009, 08:26 AM
NFL.com/Network is currently airing TOP 5 per position leading up to the beggining of the '09 season... Currently 2 steelers are making top 5 per position:

Ben Roethlisberger #4 QB by NFL network
Troy Polamalu #2 Safety

Its hard to put Ben (or any qb) above Brady and they currently have Peyton and Mcnabb in that order before Ben. IMO Ben is Number two behind Brady w/ Peyton falling to #3 in the wake of Bens 2nd SB championship.

Its VERY hard to argue Troy as being the #1 safety with the career Reed has had since coming out of "The U". Reed is the "sexy" pick w/ his highlight plays nearly every game.

But IMO, there is one steeler who really got "dissed" not making this short list.

1. James Harrison: NOT a Top 5 edge rusher- Its nearly a slap in the face to leave James off of this list. To make it even worse they have Shawn Merriman (one of my favorite non steelers) on this list after missing a whole season due to injury... following serving a multi-game suspension for testing positive for perfomance enhancing drugs the year before!!!

Is it hard to argue any other Steelers not making these lists???? In my eyes, not really! Guys like Miller, Aaron Smith and Ike Taylor will always be VASTLY overshadowed by guys who put up more numbers, but is hard to argue with the consistancy those 3 play with!! A guy like Willie Parker was ontop of the world with 3 straight 1300+ yard seasons... but due to injuries, a diminshing o-line and two very run-of-the-mill seasons, Willie is all but forgotten when it comes to runningbacks!

I REALLY think its a good thing that we didnt see alot of Steelers on these lists... there isnt much talk about the superbowl champs this offseason. Can the Steelers once again fly under the radar. Probley not! They are gonna have the target on their back ALL SEASON!!

But with the return of Brady, Favre and the MASS of offseason trades and FA's leaving for bigger $$$... the team in Black and gold is staying true to form!! Keeping a team mentality and not worrying about individual accolades!!! :cope:

Sir Blitzelot
07-13-2009, 08:57 AM
The Steelers will never be a flashy team, with standout individual players. Instead, the Steelers play as a cohesive unit on both sides of the football. That style of play is what separates the Steelers, from every other team in the NFL, and it's the reason why they have been so successful over the years. I will take winning over individual accolades any day.

Silverback 92
07-13-2009, 09:00 AM
one team vs. 53 individuals ,no brainer there

LarryNJ
07-13-2009, 10:30 AM
All these list are fun to talk about and debate but they really mean nothing. Football is a team sport and as long as we get the W in Feb. nothing else matters! :)

It's funny to see all the people hoping on the McNabb bandwagon again. I've watched just about every McNabb and Big Ben game. I like them both and would take either one. But the difference comes down to close games in the playoffs. McNabb hasn't won the big games although I blame more of that on Andy Reid than I do McNabb. Their 2 minute drill sucks not because of McNabb but because of Andy Reid being a control freak. Watch Ben, Brady, Manning, or most other QB's in a 2 minute drive and they are reading plays off thier wrist snapping the ball and running the play. McNabb in the same situation has his hand up to his helmet trying to hear the play that Reid is taking 25 seconds to call into him. It's a joke.

Big Ben has won the big games so he should be ahead of McNabb. But still behind Brady and Manning.

Steel Trap86
07-13-2009, 11:56 AM
The Steelers are never in the spotlight on NFLN. If you look at there top 5 ranked QB's, RB's, TE's for fantasy teams, there is not one Steeler on there. Aaron Rodgers made there #5 spot, Ben wasnt even mentioned. Even last season when they beat the Patriots & Cowboys back to back, the NFLN would speak more on what Dallas & New England did wrong then what the Steelers did right. Dallas & New England are the NFL's little butt buddies man lol and the Steelers are not a flashy team.

Hell I think Drew Brees is better then Brady, **** Brady lol

greg1964
07-13-2009, 12:07 PM
the key to these types of polls are strickly numbers: As much as I like fantasy football, people seam to forget what make a player great: WINNING and that is something that Big Ben has done better than ANY OTHER QB in his first five years.

How could they put Culter, Brees, or McNabb or Manning ahead of Ben: Simple: Fantasy Football: Big Ben has only had one season where he put up great numbers, and if I was drafting a QB in FF, I would take the others before Ben, But I would only that Brady, before Ben in real football. But ask Marino, Favra, or for that matter Manning, Brees, McNabb or Culter if he would trade places with Ben, in a NY minute

Silverback
07-13-2009, 12:13 PM
James was #5 on Rod Woodson's list for edge rushers actually, but at the same time Big Ben wasn't even in Warren Sapp's top 5 Qb's. Total joke, he had Cutler there instead, win some games first.

ejsteeler
07-13-2009, 01:18 PM
I like it. James will use that as incentive and have an even better year.....:yesnod:

BlackGold4vr
07-13-2009, 02:20 PM
I like it. James will use that as incentive and have an even better year.....:yesnod:


I really don't think the players give these kinds of things much thought at all. Like the saying goes, "opinions are like *******s, everyones got one". At this level if you need negative press to help you play hard you aren't gonna be around very long.

As far as flying under the radar goes that is not going to happen. Regardless of what the sportwriters say, everyone plays a little harder against the defending champs. We are the measuring stick that our opponents will measure themselves against.

Here are my top 5 AFC teams:


Steelers
Patriots
Colts
Ravens
Titans


Of these teams we only play 2 of them in the regular season (Titans, RavensX2)

I like our chances to reach another conference championship!

LatrobePA
07-13-2009, 03:16 PM
NFL channel / dot com suck!

Troyisabeast_43
07-13-2009, 03:39 PM
I really don't think the players give these kinds of things much thought at all. Like the saying goes, "opinions are like *******s, everyones got one". At this level if you need negative press to help you play hard you aren't gonna be around very long.

As far as flying under the radar goes that is not going to happen. Regardless of what the sportwriters say, everyone plays a little harder against the defending champs. We are the measuring stick that our opponents will measure themselves against.

Here are my top 5 AFC teams:


Steelers
Patriots
Colts
Ravens
Titans



Of these teams we only play 2 of them in the regular season (Titans, RavensX2)

I like our chances to reach another conference championship!
I think the Colts,Ravens and Titans will all not be as good as last season. The Ravens lost Rex Ryan and a bunch of guys on defense. Plus, we still really dont know how good Joe Flacco is and if he will continue to develop and get better or he will have the sophomore jinx. The Titans I believe had their chance last year with Kerry Collins having a better then average year at 36 years old, and the Colts and Jags having down years. While they will be competitive I dont view them a legit threat in the AFC. And the Colts while they still do have Peyton Manning Tony Dungy is no longer the head coach there in Indy and who knows how the players and how Jim Caldwell their new head coach will handle things in Indy.

The Steelers and the Pats with Tom Brady back and the Pats improving their defense a little bit are the two teams to beat in the AFC and in my opinion as we sit here today in mid-July are on a collision course toward meeting in the AFC Championship game barring major injury to both teams. A team to watch out for in the AFC and a major sleeper I believe that no one is talking about if their QB can stay healthy with their D being pretty solid and having some great playmakers on offense are the Houston Texans. I really believe that this is the year that they finally rise from mediocrity and take that next step toward making the playoffs and maybe even winning the AFC South.

--- Added 7/13/2009 at 02:39 PM ---


The Steelers are never in the spotlight on NFLN. If you look at there top 5 ranked QB's, RB's, TE's for fantasy teams, there is not one Steeler on there. Aaron Rodgers made there #5 spot, Ben wasnt even mentioned. Even last season when they beat the Patriots & Cowboys back to back, the NFLN would speak more on what Dallas & New England did wrong then what the Steelers did right. Dallas & New England are the NFL's little butt buddies man lol and the Steelers are not a flashy team.

Hell I think Drew Brees is better then Brady, **** Brady lol

I'm surprised they didnt have Brett Favre in the top 5 over Ben on NFL Network seeing that all the **** they talk about every single day on Total Access to lead things off is the Brett Favre watch and where he is working out and when he is expected to sign with the Vikings. They are so far up Brett Favre's *** it's absolutely pathetic. Even more reason for me to want the Steelers to pound Brett Favre into oblivion when the Steelers meet the Vikings here at Heinz Field in late October.

K Train
07-13-2009, 03:48 PM
I really don't think the players give these kinds of things much thought at all. Like the saying goes, "opinions are like *******s, everyones got one". At this level if you need negative press to help you play hard you aren't gonna be around very long.

As far as flying under the radar goes that is not going to happen. Regardless of what the sportwriters say, everyone plays a little harder against the defending champs. We are the measuring stick that our opponents will measure themselves against.

Here are my top 5 AFC teams:


Steelers
Patriots
Colts
Ravens
Titans


Of these teams we only play 2 of them in the regular season (Titans, RavensX2)

I like our chances to reach another conference championship!

i really dont think the titans and ravens are gonna be much this year

igor0190
07-13-2009, 09:08 PM
--- Added 7/13/2009 at 02:39 PM ---
Even more reason for me to want the Steelers to pound Brett Favre into oblivion when the Steelers meet the Vikings here at Heinz Field in late October.

This is the ONLY reason I actually want Farve to come back this year. The D's stats would get some serious padding if he plays against us.

--- Added 7/13/2009 at 08:08 PM ---


i really dont think the titans and ravens are gonna be much this year

I also think the Ravens are going to be in tough this year. They've lost some very key pieces this offseason. Flacco is a little bit overhyped and will come back down to earth a little.

-Rex Ryan... Don't underestimate this loss. He was a staple there for years.
-Derek Mason.. Huge loss, only proven receiver. (80 catches, 1000yds GONE)
-Bart Scott.. quality LB
-Leonhard, Corey Ivy.. 2 starters at DB any way you look at it. Foxworth signed.
-Lorenzo Neal... obviously a key player in the run game
-Jason Brown... Replaced with Birk

profellisdtrails
07-14-2009, 01:03 AM
that's why you're my brother Ktrain

86WARD
07-14-2009, 07:20 AM
I like it. James will use that as incentive and have an even better year.....:yesnod:

I'd be willing to bet that Harrison neither saw nor cares about anyone's "list." :lol:

--- Added 7/14/2009 at 06:20 AM ---

There's a real good chance that the Bungles finish ahead of the Ravens...esp. with the retirement of the Ravens pass game...lol.

lloydfan4life
07-14-2009, 07:48 AM
Wonder if they'll do the top 5 in Lombardi Accumulation??

86WARD
07-14-2009, 07:55 AM
The Steelers would be #1...I don't know, maybe I'm just being a homer.

steelcitysfinestXL
07-14-2009, 11:18 AM
i really dont think the titans and ravens are gonna be much this year

:plus1: i dont really know what what to think of the colts either!?!?! New coach, down year in '08 (per their standards) in a already competetive division! The '08 titans were like the Bengals in '05 IMO. And we all know what happened with the Bengals.
Collins will undoubtably fall off after havin a ver efficient season. Johnson will have to match his output last year which will be no easy feat. And their defense will have to remain in the top 5 once again.

I think the team to watch out for is San Diego... Merriman will be back, Rivera will have a full year with that D. Tomlinson will have ALOT to prove and Rivers is coming off of a Pro-Bowl type season.

86WARD
07-15-2009, 07:43 AM
Tomlinson will or I should say "should" be healthy...that's a plus as well. I'm curious to see what a healthy Cromartie and Merriman do for the Chargers Defense.

steelersforever1983
07-16-2009, 03:52 PM
The reason the steelers are put down on nfl network is simple. JERRY JONES made the network to cater to Cowgirls.

andyg1984
07-16-2009, 04:40 PM
The reason the steelers are put down on nfl network is simple. JERRY JONES made the network to cater to Cowgirls.

thank you! i feel so bummed everytime i tune in and all they focus on is a team that has not won a playoff game since super nintendo was considered high-tech and drama about an overrated QB who dates some1 who I am not even sure why she is a celebrity ??