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darnik44
03-11-2009, 09:18 AM
Good 40 time does not always mean great NFL career.

Top 40 Yard Dash Times (Combine 1999-2009)

1. Chris Johnson, RB, East Carolina - 4.24 ('08)

2. Jerome Mathis WR, Hampton - 4.28 (‘05)

2. Champ Bailey CB, Georgia - 4.28 (‘99)

4. Stanford Routt CB, Houston - 4.29 (‘05)

4. Jay Hinton RB, Morgan State - 4.29 (‘99)

4. Fabian Washington CB, Nebraska - 4.29 (‘05)

7. Darrius Heyward-Bey CB, Maryland - 4.30 ('09)

7. Darrent Williams CB, Oklahoma State - 4.30 (‘05)

7. Yamon Figures WR, Kansas State - 4.30 (‘07)

10. Aaron Lockett WR, South Carolina - 4.31 (‘02)

10. Jonathan Joseph CB, South Carolina - 4.31 (‘06)

10. Tyvon Branch CB, Connecticut - 4.31 ('08)

10. Santana Moss WR, Miami - 4.31 (‘01)

14. Orlando Scandrick CB, Boise State - 4.32 ('08)

14. Chris McKenzie CB, Arizona State - 4.32 (‘05)

14. Tim Carter WR, Auburn - 4.32 (‘02)

14. Kevin Garrett CB, Southern Methodist - 4.32 (‘03)

14. Antwan Harris CB, Virginia - 4.32 (‘02)

14. Troy Williamson WR, South Carolina - 4.32 (‘05)

14. Jason Hill WR, Washington State - 4.32 (‘07)

14. Chris Houston CB, Arkansas - 4.32 (‘07)

14. Tim Jennings CB, Georgia - 4.32 (‘06)

23. Carlos Francis WR, Texas Tech - 4.33 (‘04)

23. Chris Chambers WR, Wisconsin - 4.33 (‘01)

23. Karsten Bailey WR, Auburn - 4.33 (‘99)

23. Darren McFadden RB, Arkansas - 4.33 ('08)

23. Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie CB, Tennessee State - 4.33 ('08)

23. Mike Wallace WR, Mississippi - 4.33 ('09)

29. Dunta Robinson CB, South Carolina - 4.34 (‘04)

29. Tyrone Calico WR, Mid. Tenn. St. - 4.34 (‘03)

29. Ahmad Carroll CB, Arkansas - 4.34 (‘04)

29. Johnny Knox WR, Abilene Christian - 4.34 ('09)

K Train
03-11-2009, 11:22 AM
i dont like knox, all he is is a 40 time

isnt it weird that the corners and RBs this year are pretty slow? hell even the wrs are a slow group

ItAintEasyBeingPeazy
03-11-2009, 11:32 AM
Granted speed is not everything..there are some big names on that list.On a side note:
Deon Butler ran a 4.38 for all you PSU fans..he outran D Will and Norwood.

K Train
03-11-2009, 11:44 AM
psu players are scary to draft no matter how good they run or how much they lift

ItAintEasyBeingPeazy
03-11-2009, 11:54 AM
That can be said for any school.

DCBill
03-11-2009, 12:01 PM
Well, you are right.

Despite running my 40 yard dash in 4.14 seconds, I turned out to be a bust as a 6'6" 340 pound defensive tackle. :-) :-)

But Knox also is a WR, who has generated over a thousand yards per season in catches, albeit not in D1 football.

Given his potential, I would risk a mid-round pick on him.

darnik44
03-11-2009, 12:19 PM
From the small amount I've seen of Johnny Knox, he just looks like he was just much faster than any of his poor competition. He has a very long road to become an NFL receiver. I highly doubt he makes a roster anywhere next year. At best he's a 2 year practice squad guy who could eventually be a #5 receiver and a return man.

I think that any receiver the Steelers draft would have to be somebody who could atleast be some competition with Sweed as the 3rd receiver, and reliable enough to be the #4. The ability to return is also an added bonus and something I think should be part of the equation, but not the whole equation like Willie Reid was (supposed to be).

Just a little Steelers draft sidenote...

The Steelers sent no prominent figures to Oklahoma's pro day. That is a pretty strong indication that Duke Robinson can be completely scratched off the short list as a potential Steelers 1st round pick.

K Train
03-11-2009, 03:53 PM
That can be said for any school.

who was the last penn state offensive player worth a damn? larry johnson? and he hit a wall in a big way. poz is ok and hali has shown flashes. but in recent years theyve cranked out talent like tony hunt who isnt on a roster, levi brown who is one of the worst right tackles in the league....i would say worse than colon and he went 5th overall. there hasnt been a wr worth a damn since engram who is now 36, not a qb since kerry collins.....im sorry but for such a prominent school they crank out some ****** pro talent

ItAintEasyBeingPeazy
03-11-2009, 05:45 PM
who was the last penn state offensive player worth a damn? larry johnson? and he hit a wall in a big way. poz is ok and hali has shown flashes. but in recent years theyve cranked out talent like tony hunt who isnt on a roster, levi brown who is one of the worst right tackles in the league....i would say worse than colon and he went 5th overall. there hasnt been a wr worth a damn since engram who is now 36, not a qb since kerry collins.....im sorry but for such a prominent school they crank out some ****** pro talent

Just because they are not big name guys doesn't mean they are not worth a damn...there are alot of PSU players in the league that play well...maybe not pro bowlers but guys like Robbie Gould,Jay Alford,Anthony Adams,Sean Mchugh,Tony Stewart,Kenny Watson are all guys that are still playing in this league which says alot in itself..and just to point out on that earlier post i said "for all you PSU fans" which you obviously are not ...so i wasn't looking for your input anyhow.

Stairwayto7
03-11-2009, 05:51 PM
Johnny Knox
# 7
Wide Receiver - WR

Height: 6-1 Weight: 190

Senior



Houston , TX








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Courtesy: ACU
Release: 09/26/2007
Listed as a backup wide receiver at ACU after transferring from Tyler College.

2005-06 (Tyler College): Two-year letterwinner at Tyler who earned second team all-America honors as a sophomore in 2006 after catching 38 passes for 884 yards and 12 touchdowns. He was the ninth-rated junior college receiver in the nation by Rivals.com after leading all of junior college football in both yards and touchdowns as a sophomore.

High school: First team Class 4A all-state by Texprep and the District 23-4A Offensive MVP as a senior.

Personal: Born 03 Nov 1986. 2005 graduate of Channelview High School.

K Train
03-11-2009, 05:52 PM
i like penn state just fine, they won me alot of money in the rose bowl this year.

williams might be worth a look as a returner and he might make a nice late second/early third round prospect but there is easily 30 wrs better than butler in the draft and probably 40 better than norwood

Stairwayto7
03-11-2009, 05:52 PM
who was the last penn state offensive player worth a damn? larry johnson? and he hit a wall in a big way. poz is ok and hali has shown flashes. but in recent years theyve cranked out talent like tony hunt who isnt on a roster, levi brown who is one of the worst right tackles in the league....i would say worse than colon and he went 5th overall. there hasnt been a wr worth a damn since engram who is now 36, not a qb since kerry collins.....im sorry but for such a prominent school they crank out some ****** pro talent

Easy answer! Jerr Hartings!:banana:

K Train
03-11-2009, 05:54 PM
Easy answer! Jerr Hartings!:banana:

well played. drafted in 1996....thats a hell of a drought

Stairwayto7
03-11-2009, 06:02 PM
These three probably had the best past season for offensive former Nittany Lions!
Not Much!

Sean McHugh – Pittsburgh Steelers – tight end, #49
Kerry Collins – Tennessee Titans – quarterback, #5
Levi Brown – Arizona Cardinals – offensive tackle, #75 [
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Current NFL players
Anthony Adams – Chicago Bears – defensive tackle, #95
Jay Alford – New York Giants – defensive tackle, #93
Levi Brown – Arizona Cardinals – offensive tackle, #75
Kerry Collins – Tennessee Titans – quarterback, #5
Dan Connor – Carolina Panthers - linebacker, #57
Eddie Drummond – free agent – wide receiver, kick returner
Bobby Engram – free agent – wide receiver
John Gilmore – Tampa Bay Buccaneers – tight end, #88
Robbie Gould – Chicago Bears – placekicker, #9
Tamba Hali – Kansas City Chiefs – defensive end, #91
Tony Hunt – free agent – running back
Bryant Johnson – Detroit Lions – wide receiver
Ed Johnson – free agent – defensive tackle
Larry Johnson – Kansas City Chiefs – tailback, #27
Joe Jurevicius – Cleveland Browns – wide receiver, #84
Jeremy Kapinos – Green Bay Packers – punter, #7
Jimmy Kennedy – free agent – defensive tackle
Ethan Kilmer – Miami Dolphins – defensive back, special teams, #43
Justin King – St. Louis Rams - cornerback, #32
Calvin Lowry – free agent – safety
David Macklin – Kansas City Chiefs – cornerback, #34
Sean McHugh – Pittsburgh Steelers – tight end, #49
Kareem McKenzie – New York Giants – offensive tackle, #67
Scott Paxson – Pittsburgh Steelers – defensive tackle #71
Anwar Phillips – Baltimore Ravens – cornerback, #24
Paul Posluszny – Buffalo Bills – linebacker, #51
Tyler Reed – Chicago Bears – guard, #64
Michael Robinson – San Francisco 49ers – running back/wide receiver, #24
Bryan Scott – Buffalo Bills – safety, #43
Tim Shaw – Jacksonville Jaguars – linebacker, #57
Isaac Smolko – Baltimore Ravens – tight end
Tony Stewart – free agent – tight end
Derek Wake – Miami Dolphins – defensive end, #59
Kenny Watson – Cincinnati Bengals – tailback, #33

K Train
03-11-2009, 06:03 PM
levi brown was god awful....just ****ing terrible in every aspect of his position

Stairwayto7
03-11-2009, 06:05 PM
levi brown was god awful....just ****ing terrible in every aspect of his position

LOL, I know, but there is nobody else on the list

steelcityrockers
03-11-2009, 07:09 PM
I wouldn't go that far. He can be very good sometimes, just isn't consistent. Also, he is slow out of his stance.

DCBill
03-12-2009, 12:36 AM
Interesting observation about Duke Robinson.