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blackngold29
01-07-2009, 01:34 PM
This is something we might not do for a regular season game, but it's the PLAYOFFS so in-depth analysis it is!

Vic Carucci of NFL.com released this video (http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80deef38) yesterday afternoon. He really went out on a limb with his key matchups (sarcasm) picking Ben vs. Chargers pass rush and Rivers vs. Steelers D. Obviously the quarterback plays a huge role every game, so who do you think will do better and will the other D be able to adjust? :thinking:

HUNT4SEVEN
01-07-2009, 01:50 PM
I like Bens chances against the Chargers defense, i think the Steelers will confuse Rivers all day:tt02::yellowthumb:

Dean Denton
01-07-2009, 01:57 PM
I think Ben is the better QB and I think our Def is by far the better of the 2 units. However, our OL showed us last time against the Chargers and all season that they have a hard time protecting Ben for more then 2 seconds. In this I think the Chargers are going to do a better job giving their QB the time he needs, but at the end of the day, Ben will have the better QB rating. So rivers will do better against the pass rush, but Ben will do better over all. This is my unbiased opinion....

JensK
01-07-2009, 02:06 PM
What stood out for me was that he compared to QB's against eachother HOWEVER! (capz), there was a difference. He thought Big Ben only had to watch out for the Chargers pass-rush, while Rivers had to watch out for the whole Steelers defence. That is right on. Ben will get sacked at least 3 times this sunday, mark it down. But Rivers will get sacked at least 2 times aswell, and he will get picked at least 2 times aswell.

ejsteeler
01-07-2009, 02:27 PM
He bottom-lined it pretty good. Ben plays all game, we have a better chance and should win. That means pass protection or quick drops. I'm guessing quick drops would be a better bet. :yellowthumb:

Dean Denton
01-07-2009, 02:49 PM
Its going to come down to splash plays, and who makes them. I would think at home, our Def would be the unit. I see Rivers not only getting sacked, fumbling the ball and throwing a couple INT's, I seem him being hurried all day long. Splash bitches....lol

BlitzburghNation
01-07-2009, 02:56 PM
Its going to come down to splash plays, and who makes them. I would think at home, our Def would be the unit. I see Rivers not only getting sacked, fumbling the ball and throwing a couple INT's, I seem him being hurried all day long. Splash bitches....lol

:ditto:
Bob Poppa on sirius yeaterday was saying that he had a gut feeling that pittsburgh would dominate this game :yellowthumb: I kinda feel the same :greengrin:

Dean Denton
01-07-2009, 03:07 PM
:ditto:
Bob Poppa on sirius yeaterday was saying that he had a gut feeling that pittsburgh would dominate this game :yellowthumb: I kinda feel the same :greengrin: I would think that most radio, TV and any other form of hype machine would be picking the Steelers. They always seem to be the sexy pick. The only time I have ever had doubts was the year they won this last superbowl.....lol I believe they were 17 point favorites against the Chargers in 1994, and lost by 4. What are the odds so far? I would think today the Steelers would be picked by 10. These guys on the Radio and what not, always do this because the Steelers are favored, they are at home, and they win more then the Chargers. Steelers are the safe pick.

tuggysteel822
01-09-2009, 01:42 AM
its gonna be a good game

BlitzburghRockCity
01-09-2009, 09:02 AM
Another matchup to watch is Harrison vs the Chargers LT and how often they put a TE over there to help out. I would also expect any time they have a back with Rivers that his first responsibility is to chip Harrison if he gets through. This is a game I'd like to see Wood get a couple sacks and really get after Rivers because he won't get much of the double team like Harrison will.

The chargers will try and run the ball with Sproles but I wouln't be surprised if they open up the game with spreading us out and trying to attack with a quick passing game and multiple WR's to slow down the pass rush.

ejsteeler
01-09-2009, 09:45 AM
Running game, defense should be difference for Steelers
By Pat Kirwan | NFL.com
Senior Analyst

The San Diego Chargers travel to Pittsburgh to bang heads with the Steelers in the final game of divisional-playoff weekend.

Pittsburgh needed the bye last week to get QB Ben Roethlisberger healthy after he suffered a concussion in a meaningless regular-season finale against the Cincinnati Bengals. Sometimes you have to wonder about Roethlisberger's judgment when it comes to throwing the ball away and reducing the number of unnecessary hits that he takes. Hopefully, he had some sense knocked into him because the Chargers have sacked him 12 times in their three previous meetings.

Meanwhile, the Chargers are playing extremely well, averaging 34 points per game during a five-game winning streak. QB Philip Rivers didn't make the Pro Bowl, despite leading the NFL with a 105.5 passer rating and throwing for 34 touchdowns this season. He has a chip on his shoulder coming in to Pittsburgh, but he also comes in without RB LaDainian Tomlinson.

The weather conditions in Pittsburgh this time of year mean the running game better be ready to take over. Pittsburgh has drifted away from the power run game it was famous for in the Bill Cowher era, ranking No. 23 in the league in running the ball. Willie Parker is finally healthy, so expect a 20-plus-carry day for him. Since Mike Tomlin took over as the Steelers' coach two years ago, he has a 14-3 record when Parker gets at least 20 carries.

Chargers coach Norv Turner enters this game with 5-foot-6 Darren Sproles in the backfield and Tomlinson most likely on the sideline injured. In the last two years, when Tomlinson has fewer than 20 carries (and it's safe to assume that will be the case in this game,) the Chargers are 7-9.

Chargers punter Mike Scifres was the MVP of last week's wild-card victory over the Indianapolis Colts, but it's a whole different story at Heinz Field when it comes to creating a long field with punts placed inside the 20-yard line. Don't expect San Diego's punting game to have the same effect this weekend.

The last time they played
On Nov. 16, the Chargers lost to the Steelers 11-10 in difficult conditions (snow showers and a wind chill of 26 degrees). The weather won't be any better for this playoff game. Steelers fans and players call it perfect football conditions. Chargers fans likely would contend that it can't be considered perfect.

In the first game, Steelers TE Heath Miller and CBs Deshea Townsend and Bryant McFadden were on the sideline in street clothes. All three are ready for this contest. The Chargers were missing DB Steve Gregory, who will play this time and has developed a bigger role in recent weeks.

In the previous matchup, Tomlinson touched the ball 21 times for 102 yards and one touchdown. Of course, he didn't get that entire yardage on the ground because the Steelers' defense hasn't allowed a 100-yard rusher all season.

Parker had 115 rushing yards, and Hines Ward caught 11 passes for 124 yards. Neither player scored a touchdown -- in fact, no Steeler did. Pittsburgh shot itself in the foot with 13 penalties, an inept red-zone offense and four Roethlisberger sacks.

When the Chargers have the ball
San Diego is 2-13 all-time in Pittsburgh, but Rivers couldn't care less about history. He's cocky and will come to Heinz Field expecting to win, with or without Tomlinson. Pittsburgh has the No. 1 defense in the NFL, and when you look at James Harrison (NFL defensive MVP), James Farrior and Aaron Smith, you see three players with 147 tackles for two yards or less. The Chargers' running attack isn't going anywhere in this game. Expect Rivers to throw around 30 times, especially late in the game.

The Steelers' pass rush is second in the NFL, and Woodley and Harrison have 27.5 sacks between them. Pittsburgh's film study will show a smart quarterback who has been sacked six times in two games against this defense, but also a guy who has thrown the most touchdown passes against the blitz this season (six). Rivers needs TE Antonio Gates to play and for the screen game to Sproles to be effective because he will not escape the Steelers' zone blitz with his feet.


How Chargers and Steelers measure up
Statistic|Chargers|Steelers
Points Per Game|27.4|21.7
Rushing YPG|107.9|105.6
Passing YPG|241.1|206.3
Total YPG|349.0|311.9
YPG Allowed|349.9|237.2
Turnover Differential|+4|+4


San Diego must be patient with its passing attack and dink and dunk its way down the field. Pittsburgh is No. 1 in the league in defending big plays down the field and also is one of the best in creating third-and-long situations. On average, the Steelers' defense is looking at third and more than seven yards. San Diego will not have many answers for that issue, especially with the crazy Pittsburgh home crowd screaming and waving Terrible Towels.

When the Steelers have the ball
Roethlisberger has thrown one touchdown pass against the Chargers in three games, which doesn't cut it. Perhaps it's time to consider a return to traditional, old-school Steelers ball. Expect to see Parker get the ball on first downs close to 60 percent of the time. Parker has averaged 99 yards per game at home since 2005. Roethlisberger is 29-10 at home, mostly because of the running game.

This season, the Steelers scored just seven touchdowns against the eight playoff teams they faced, and there will be pressure to start throwing the ball all over the place. They must resist this temptation. Ron Rivera took over as the Chargers' defensive coordinator during the season and immediately used a more aggressive approach to the defense -- more press corners, more blitzes and more aggression. The Steelers' wide receivers are good, as evidenced by Hines Ward and Santonio Holmes combining for 43 clutch receptions (any catch that went for a first down or touchdown), but Chargers CBs Quentin Jammer and Antonio Cromartie are big and strong and can re-route receivers in this improved scheme. Having Miller back on the field for the rematch is key. The Chargers' safeties are a weak spot, and Miller will help the Steelers move the chains and can help the team's red-zone problems.

Roethlisberger coming off a concussion can be a problem. The last time he returned to the field from the same sort of issue, he was sacked five times and threw four interceptions. Rivera will waste little time going after Roethlisberger, who plays behind a questionable line. Roethlisberger also has thrown four interceptions in the 96 blitz looks he has seen this season. The Steelers would be wise to simply run the ball.

The bottom line
The Chargers proved anything is possible since going from a 4-8 record to an AFC West championship. They then stopped the high-flying Colts in the first round of the playoffs. Now they face a Steelers team that has its eye on the Super Bowl and isn't about to lose this game at home. Expect Pittsburgh to win by a touchdown and have the fans thinking the old Steelers style of pounding the ball and dominating on defense is back.

I believe Pat has hit the nail on the head and I expect the exact same thing he does. Here's to an outstanding weekend of Steeler's football folks!!!!! :cope:

JensK
01-09-2009, 09:50 AM
There more i read about this game the more excited i get.. I can hardly wait anymore! BRING THEM ON!

ejsteeler
01-09-2009, 09:57 AM
Another matchup to watch is Harrison vs the Chargers LT and how often they put a TE over there to help out. I would also expect any time they have a back with Rivers that his first responsibility is to chip Harrison if he gets through. This is a game I'd like to see Wood get a couple sacks and really get after Rivers because he won't get much of the double team like Harrison will.

The chargers will try and run the ball with Sproles but I wouln't be surprised if they open up the game with spreading us out and trying to attack with a quick passing game and multiple WR's to slow down the pass rush.

And another matchup will Harrison against the Ref. :lol:
Hopefully we'll get a fair game called. I've seen this mentioned in alot of articles so hopefully the Ref's will address it. Call it the same both ways is all I ask. :yesnod:

Mark B.
01-09-2009, 04:37 PM
Another thing to keep in mind is that the refs really screwed around with this game. I cannot remember the last time the Steelers were flagged 13 times for around 100 yards.. Please correct me if I am wrong on this one but weren't the Chargers only flagged twice and isn't that the SAME crew that "gave" the Chargers the game v Indy last week when it came down to the end and the OT? I am praying to see a different crew working this game vice that crew.

Statistically the Steelers look close to a lock. There is too much talent of defense and I hope the offense (FWP) gets out of this rut and puts up some points! We are due a big game. Give the Chargers some credit, they play with more heart and guts than talent. It is time for that luck to run out on Sun!

Dean Denton
01-09-2009, 04:39 PM
I'm sure there will be a different crew for this game. Now they are going with the best crews and that one has been in question as of late....

blitzburgh58
01-10-2009, 11:06 AM
Gotta control jamal williams up th middle to establish the run, and of course give big ben time. I can't wait to introduce sproiles to the renegade brigade and they are gonna do to rivers what they did last time! :cope:


BLITZBURGH: A DRINKING TOWN WITH A FOOTBALL PROBLEM!:cope:

popstaala
01-10-2009, 11:46 PM
Troy Polamalu on Gates... that will be the ultimate matchup

Stairwayto7
01-10-2009, 11:49 PM
Ben is the better QB. He just hasn`t played that way, on and off this season. Ben knows what time it is though! He`ll bring it!

Zachintosh66
01-11-2009, 10:27 AM
... is if Pittsburgh comes out flat

and SD has basically been playing "playoff games" for 5 weeks now so they could be getting used to the pressure.


My keys to a victory:
1. Unforced Errors (TO's & Penalties)
2. Keep Ben on his feet
3. Watch Chargers Screen-plays
4. Steelers establish a run game
5. Keep the pressure on Rivers


IMHO I find it very difficult for the Chargers to beat us. Theres more of a chance of us beating ourselves...

PS. Dont worry about next week... FOCUS! One Team, One Goal, One play at a time!

Stairwayto7
01-11-2009, 10:29 AM
The short of it is, your scared of us! If we don`t beat us, we don`t lose!

LarryNJ
01-11-2009, 10:36 AM
No way in hell that this team comes out flat. That doesn't mean that Ben won't do something stupid but they won't be flat. The defense will take over and dominate. If Ben plays pretty well we will win this game going away.

PsychoWard
01-11-2009, 10:48 AM
I think the main key today because of the weather is to establish the run! to me it seems like we have gotten away from that in the last couple weeks!! And i also think the weather is in our favor!!!

popstaala
01-11-2009, 10:57 AM
im not even worry about todays game.... SD is all banged up from last game... i think itll be a shutout..

gbdsteelers
01-11-2009, 10:57 AM
this team will not come out flat or unfocused. the key to all these fears is can and will this offensive line come to play today.will have to win in the trenches on both sides of the ball today. my biggest fear is can we get enough pressure on rivers. when opposing q.b. get too much time they can exploit some flaws in the secondary

Stairwayto7
01-11-2009, 11:08 AM
Who rolls? We roll!

Troyisabeast_43
01-11-2009, 12:03 PM
No way in hell that this team comes out flat. That doesn't mean that Ben won't do something stupid but they won't be flat. The defense will take over and dominate. If Ben plays pretty well we will win this game going away.

If the Steelers and their players have any doubts of thinking this is a gimmie game and they just have to show up and they are going to win because they are playing at home and they have a West Coast team coming in here that has not been good on the East this season, then tell them to see the Carolina Arizona game last night. Nobody thought Carolina would lose that game to Arizona and that Arizona would come out and dominate that game the way they did. Steelers better look at that game just incase and use it as a little friendly reminder to themselves incase they have any ideas that this game is going to be a walk in the park.

Moondog
01-11-2009, 12:53 PM
The short of it is, your scared of us! If we don`t beat us, we don`t lose!

That's how I feel about it, as long as we don't give the Chargers anything cheap, there's no way they will beat the Steelers, it's just that I've seen the Steelers implode at Heinz field (NE x2, Jax) in the playoffs in years past, that I think I get a little superstitious, which, now, that I typed it out seems... silly. THE STEELERS WILL TAKE CARE OF BUSINESS TODAY!!!!! LET'S GO!!!! :tt02: :helmet: :tt02:

HUNT4SEVEN
01-11-2009, 01:13 PM
Calm down Steeler Nation we got this:yellowthumb::tt02:

popstaala
01-11-2009, 02:03 PM
Calm down Steeler Nation we got this:yellowthumb::tt02:

youre reading my mind buddy... :plus1: