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BlacknGold Bleeder
10-25-2006, 10:19 PM
By ALAN ROBINSON, AP Sports Writer

4 hours ago

PITTSBURGH - Ben Roethlisberger won't have any trouble remembering the hit that gave the Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback his latest concussion.

"It felt like it busted my whole jaw," he said Wednesday.

He also won't forget the crude comment made by one of the three Atlanta Falcons players who, while sacking him Sunday, apparently taunted Roethlisberger by saying he wanted to hit him in his surgically repaired face.

Roethlisberger took part in limited work during practice Wednesday and is listed as questionable for Sunday's game in Oakland, despite receiving his second concussion in about four months. He has not been cleared by doctors to play but, if he is, plans to "beg and plead" with coach Bill Cowher to do so.

"If you ask me, I'm always leaning toward playing, no matter what it is," he said Wednesday. "But it's something we have to be smart about."

Roethlisberger, who led the Steelers to a Super Bowl win last season, was injured during a helmet-to-helmet hit by defensive end Chauncey Davis immediately after releasing a pass during the third quarter. Roethlisberger also was sandwiched by defensive lineman Patrick Kerney and linebacker Ed Hartwell.

"They got me from every angle," he said.

Roethlisberger lay motionless for several minutes, and at least one teammate said he was unconscious on the turf. He was visibly dazed while being taken to the locker room, but felt better within a few minutes and later returned to the sideline.

"The last thing I remember is throwing to Hines (Ward) and I tried to duck out of it, and as I tried to duck out of it I remember getting hit in the chin _ it felt like I busted my whole jaw or something," he said. "One of their players said something to me and that's the last thing I remember."

He declined to identify the player who talked about the facial injuries the quarterback received during his June motorcycle crash, but said: "I'll remember his number."

"They made a little comment, but I won't bring it up right now," he said. "When I got hit, I wasn't worried about the front of it (the jaw) _ it's stronger than it was before _ but the back of it was a little sore."

Roethlisberger needed seven hours of surgery to repair the facial damage caused during the crash, with strips of titanium placed in the jaw to strengthen it. He also received a concussion during an accident that occurred while he wasn't wearing a helmet.

Despite another head injury, he doesn't plan to switch to the recently designed football helmet that affords a player more protection from concussions.

Roethlisberger has had headaches since Sunday, though they are not as bad as they initially were. Still, Cowher is encouraged by the tests Roethlisberger has taken at least twice this week.

The tests measure a player's memory, attention, mental processing speed and reaction time. The results are compared to those taken when the player was healthy, and are used to determine when he can play again after a concussion.

While those close to Roethlisberger labeled the concussion as "mild" and not worrisome, the symptoms he describes suggest otherwise.

According to widely recognized grading systems used by neurosurgeons and other medical professionals, any concussion that involves a loss of consciousness cannot be labeled as mild. Loss of consciousness, headaches and memory loss are more often associated with severe concussions.

The concussion tests NFL players take were largely designed by doctors who work in the medical complex where the Steelers practice, so Cowher isn't worried Roethlisberger might be cleared prematurely to play.

"The biggest thing is we get clearance from the medical people," Cowher said. "Once that has been decided then I have to sit down and talk to Ben and see how comfortable he is and see where he is."

Long-term medical studies have suggested that players who receive multiple concussions can be increasingly susceptible to others. Roethlisberger acknowledged he may have had others in his career.

"I've been playing football a long time," the 24-year-old said. "I'm sure I've had a few mild dings here and there."

House of Steel
10-25-2006, 10:22 PM
I wonder why the league hasn't levied any fines on them three ****ers that pulled this stunt. I think an investigation by the NFL needs to be started to find out who exactly did the taunting and suspend his damn *** for the lethal hit. They need to crack down on this bullshit.

BlacknGold Bleeder
10-25-2006, 10:27 PM
The taunting don't surprise me, no one being fined is :bsflag:

K Train
10-25-2006, 10:28 PM
Last i checked helmet to helmet was illegal, i gues that its not when you add anothother helment and a low hit:dunno:

BBC
10-25-2006, 11:09 PM
We really have no idea what the guy said to Ben, I think it's a little early to start calling for investigations...

BlacknGold Bleeder
10-25-2006, 11:15 PM
We really have no idea what the guy said to Ben, I think it's a little early to start calling for investigations...
I believe the investigation is for the helmet to helmet hit...

BlitzburghRockCity
10-25-2006, 11:18 PM
The league needs to levy a fine for sure. Helmet to Helmet is a fine no matter how you look at it !

It doesnt surprise me that a falcon player tried to taunt him...but just like Ben said, he'll remember that !

BBC
10-25-2006, 11:28 PM
I believe the investigation is for the helmet to helmet hit...

My post was in response to:



I think an investigation by the NFL needs to be started to find out who exactly did the taunting and suspend his damn ***

SteelersWoman
10-25-2006, 11:36 PM
Shouldn't there've been a flag on the late hit / helmet to helmet? Just curious--one of our guys was flagged for a late hit on Vick earlier in the game.

So was there a reason there was no flag?

floodcitygirl
10-25-2006, 11:59 PM
Shouldn't there've been a flag on the late hit / helmet to helmet? Just curious--one of our guys was flagged for a late hit on Vick earlier in the game.

So was there a reason there was no flag?I have been asking that question since Sunday. Makes no sense to me...no flag, no fine, nothing! I've read articles where even the sports writers call it an "illegal hit" like it's fact. If it was illegal, why is nothing happening????

SteelersWoman
10-26-2006, 12:16 AM
I've read articles where even the sports writers call it an "illegal hit" like it's fact...

I've read several as well. When Trent Green was hit, there was this big hoopla over how the hit was made, and the head ref had to come on NFL network and explain why it wasn't flagged. But even though several writers have called this hit on Big Ben illegal, said it was helmet to helmet, called it a "late" hit not ONE of those writers mentioned the fact that it wasn't flagged, or even asked the question "why"?

Tom Brady and Peyton Manning took hard hits this past week too, but did the guys responsible get flagged for it? I haven't gotten to see either of those games yet to find out.

BlacknGold Bleeder
10-26-2006, 12:44 AM
Well I didn't know about those other hits, maybe those dam zebras just ain't calling it.:banging: That is one rule that should be strictly enforced, not just because a quaterback,any player. Trent's hit I don't believe was intentional, and I can't really say Ben's hit was dirty, just hard football, just got to try and stop helmet to helmet hits!!!

BBG7
10-26-2006, 12:46 AM
Well whatever the taunting was....I believe Karma will get that player. there should be a certain amount of respect for your teamates and from what I read the player that was responsible for the taunting showed quite a lack of respect for a fellow player.

They should be fined for the head to head and they still may be. I really hope so, but sometimes it seems as a fine is not enough for some of these guys to quit playing dirty.

SteelerFan87
10-26-2006, 01:36 AM
Yeah I've been wondering about this since the hit. The fact that there has been no flag or fine is ridiculous. And now it comes out that the guy taunted Ben, which suggests he did it on purpose. This guy should be fined and suspended. Concussions are not something to mess around with. You could not only end a guy's career, but screw up his life after football too. I'm glad Ben's going to remember that guy, and I hope he gets a chance at some revenge.

AZ_Steeler
10-26-2006, 11:16 AM
I want to see Ben do the little thing that "Sunshine" did in Remember the Titans :bigthumb: That would be freaking awesome! Seriously though, what could Ben possibbly do to get back at this person? :dunno:

It is a little odd there hasn't been anything said about the hit, the Media is claiming it was illegal... I guess you don't get those breaks when your the defending Super Bowl Champions!! :tt02:

SteelerFan87
10-26-2006, 02:55 PM
I want to see Ben do the little thing that "Sunshine" did in Remember the Titans :bigthumb: That would be freaking awesome! Seriously though, what could Ben possibbly do to get back at this person? :dunno:

It is a little odd there hasn't been anything said about the hit, the Media is claiming it was illegal... I guess you don't those breaks when your the defending Super Bowl Champions!! :tt02:

Well, torching their defense for 300 yards and 3-5 TDs would be a good way of getting revenge. Either that or knocking the guy on his *** with a block on a running play like Kordell Stewart did to a Ravens D-lineman once. That's always effective because you know the guy's teammates would never let him forget about getting owned by a QB! :lol: