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BlitzburghRockCity
11-20-2008, 11:07 PM
Back to Back weeks of no INT's, no sacks tonight, and making a lot of real good, timely throws to move the chains. He's as healthy as he's going to get this year and he was able to work through his slump so we might be seeing the light at the end of the tunnel now. The passing game is clicking, players are making plays for him more and more and he's seeing the field a lot better. he still made a few questionable throws in traffic but that's what he does so we just have to live with it.

Im happy with his progression so far. Our redzone is another story but that's more play calling than anything else, which is a debate for another thread.. ;)

They struggled early, seemed to be sluggish till the Bengals scored then they got going and even though it was close till the 4th quarter you could just tell the D was starting to dial in and really keeping the Bengals from doing anything offensively while the running game came on in the 2nd half finally even though willie went out and Holmes was dinged up on that big hit. it's taking time but we're getting there folks.

Black@Gold Forever32
11-20-2008, 11:21 PM
I still thought the offense look like crap tonight.....Ben threw no picks....But Ben easily could have had two.....He got lucky tonight.....The running game is a joke and Parker is hurt yet again...I told Teemont 10+ carries and Parker would be hurt once again....Moore is a solid RB but he isn't a RB to carry the load week in and week out...That leaves Gary Russell.....

BlitzburghRockCity
11-20-2008, 11:24 PM
Dude, take what you can get with this team that's all we can do. The offense moved the ball all day but did stall out in the redzone a few times which is a concern I'll grant you that. They started out sluggish but began to come on as the game progressed. They still have a long ways to go but give the Bengals credit for playing good D the last few weeks, way better than they have before. considering how bad we were just a month ago Im encouraged to see them moving the ball again.

yes Parker is hurt again, don't know how bad yet and Holmes was out in the 2nd half so that didn't help but atleast we scored a couple TD's and Ben didn't turn the ball over.

Black@Gold Forever32
11-20-2008, 11:27 PM
Dude, take what you can get with this team that's all we can do. The offense moved the ball all day but did stall out in the redzone a few times which is a concern I'll grant you that. They started out sluggish but began to come on as the game progressed. They still have a long ways to go but give the Bengals credit for playing good D the last few weeks, way better than they have before. considering how bad we were just a month ago Im encouraged to see them moving the ball again.

yes Parker is hurt again, don't know how bad yet and Holmes was out in the 2nd half so that didn't help but atleast we scored a couple TD's and Ben didn't turn the ball over.

The Bengals D played well thanks to our offense....What talent do they have on that D?....They're a joke....I'm sorry this team won't go far in the play-offs with this offense.....Ben isn't the Ben of last year and its up to Moore and Russell at RB.....I have many concerns about this offense....

BlitzburghRockCity
11-20-2008, 11:35 PM
The Bengals defense has stepped up, credit them and not because of our Offense. I know we aren't the best but let's take this in baby steps and be thankful we're moving the ball and our QB isn't getting killed still. Now they could very well go south again next week but who knows, maybe we're turning the corner and maybe not but right now Im encouraged alittle bit by watching them play the last 2 weeks considering where they were last month.

BR7
11-20-2008, 11:38 PM
Besides BAs ****** play calling at times, what's really missing is the fullback. 95% of our running plays tonight with a fullback gained chunks. I don't care who they throw back there.. McHue, Davis, Spaeth, Miller, whoever.. we need one. Those singleback sets when we all know its a run with either Moore or Parker barely break the LOS. Who gives a **** if they know we are running when they see the FB.. they can't stop it. BAs master plan with these bunch formations, more WRs and no FB will not cut it. He's handcuffing this team with his 'master plan.'

As TG said in the other thread.. Ernster is trash. Any other team (besides the Lions) would have capitalized off that gratutious field position. He's got to go, period. Bring Berger back and let him fight the pain.. he still kicked it 40+ yards. If Ernster stays, he will cost us, more than likely in the playoffs, where better teams will take advantage. You can't blame it on the winds at Heinz.. he can't kick from either direction.

ItAintEasyBeingPeazy
11-20-2008, 11:48 PM
The Offense steps forward and Nate Washington steps back. Again with a early drive killing drop and a "know better" pick play that he got flagged for.:evilshake:
On an side note...where has Mendenhall been?,,I know he's out for the year but shouldn't he atleast be on the side-lines with the team?..i mean it wouldn't hurt for him to be around the play-calling process and learn atleast something.

BlitzburghRockCity
11-20-2008, 11:48 PM
McHugh and Davis seem to split time at FB, neither of them is a Danny Kreider I'll give you that but a Bruce Arians offense is never going to have anything more than what we have. he doesn't use a FB, doesn't feature them at all, and they seem to only show up in short yardage or goal lines. He's never going to allow himself to play "old steeler football" and yes we've struggled with it but it is what it is and unless Tomlin cans Arians at some point we're stuck. I just hate being so damn predictable and in the running game that's what we are all the time.

BlitzburghRockCity
11-21-2008, 12:19 AM
I will say this though, atleast BA had the genious :rolleyes: to use McHugh in more of a FB role tonight than we're used to seeing. It started working better in the 2nd half when we ran the ball better. He's not the best but if we can get BA to atleast do what he did tonight I guess that's a small victory for good ole Steeler football.

AZ_Steeler
11-21-2008, 01:50 AM
The offense is really starting to come together at just the right time! Their remaining schedule is looking really tough with teams that all have winning records with the exception of the Browns. Ben is getting rid of the ball a lot faster, the line is doing a decent job but still nothing spectacular and it doesn't really matter who they put in the backfield because they are going to perform and do what's expected of them.

It was nice seeing someone other than Parker in their on third and short and that fourth and 1 down near the goal line. :bigthumb:

K Train
11-21-2008, 01:57 AM
The Offense steps forward and Nate Washington steps back. Again with a early drive killing drop and a "know better" pick play that he got flagged for.:evilshake:
On an side note...where has Mendenhall been?,,I know he's out for the year but shouldn't he atleast be on the side-lines with the team?..i mean it wouldn't hurt for him to be around the play-calling process and learn atleast something.


well im sure this time isnt going to waste for mendenhall and im sure hes there....he might not be though cause hes not really on the roster. im not sure how it works. dont worry though hes gonna be a good one

AZ_Steeler
11-21-2008, 02:01 AM
I like seeing the FB in the backfield... it signals to the D run and can make for a great play action and burn them deep! :bigthumb: Maybe that's why we saw more of a FB tonight... something for the Patriots to think about! :D

Steel Trap86
11-21-2008, 02:23 AM
ya..i think the offense still has work to do, they need to take advantage of the opportunities in the redzone. sure they scored 27 points tonight, but this was against a bengals team that has 1 win all season and is just plain shiat this season. i wouldnt get excited about this. we need to take out new england and dallas and then i'll be comfortable with our offense. as of right now i dont think our offense is playing steeler football.

i gotta give credit where credit is due though, the defense is playing outstanding football. with a defense this good, the steelers can win any game!

SteelersWoman
11-21-2008, 04:32 AM
We DID start awfully slow and sluggish, but they seem to get riled up better after the enemy produces lol

Willie's stats were atrocious tonight...I didn't know he got hurt though, as the announcers on NFLN never mentioned why he wasn't back in. I'd figured it was because he wasn't gettin anywhere, and coaching staff wanted to see if someone else could do better. So anyway, I'll be anxious to hear what happened.

As for how we did overall this season against them--the Bengals just tied with the Eagles, (and won the game before) so they're apparently better than they were at the beginnin of the season.

Here's a comparison of us and others (to show how we did against the Bengals this season)...

Sep 07 CIN 10 @ BAL 17 (Ravens by 7)
Sep 14 TEN 24 @ CIN 7 (Titans by 17
Sep 21 CIN 23 @ NYG 26 (Giants by 3)
Oct 05 CIN 22 @ DAL 31 ('Boys by 9)

Oct 12 CIN 14 @ NYJ 26 (Jets by 12)
Oct 19 PIT 38 @ CIN 10 (Us by 28)
Oct 26 CIN 6 @ HOU 35 (Texans by 29)
Nov 02 JAC 19 @ CIN 21 (Bengals by 2)

Bye

Nov 16 PHI 13 @ CIN 13 (Tied)
Nov 20 CIN 10 @ PIT 27 (Us by 17)


So all total, there was only one team who beat them by the same amount (the 10-0 Titans) and the Texans which was a complete fluke to win by as much as they did--either that, or the Bengals just laid down entirely (I didn't get to see that game, so don't know what went wrong). We've outscored the Bengals by 45 points in our two games, (and only allowed 1 TD each game) so I'm not unhappy with that :D

UPDATE:
Was just reading a column by Gerry Dulac http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08326/929613-66.stm and according to him, Willie was pulled due to "inefficiency".

Coaching
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The decision to remove an inefficient Parker was a good one, especially when Moore was productive in the second half. There is still one more decision for Mike Tomlin: Which punter to sign to replace Ernster.

lloydfan4life
11-21-2008, 07:26 AM
Let's not get too excited. It was only the Bungholes.
Hopefully we are seeing the light at the end of the tunnel for our offense, but like some others have said, Ben got lucky last night. He easily should have had at least two INT's, which could have swayed the game's outcome. I'm not taking credit away from the Steelers but I'm just not giving 'em a whole lot right now either. These next four games will be the stick with which we can measure how far we'll go in the playoffs.

AZ_Steeler
11-21-2008, 09:48 AM
It might have only been the bungholes but if yo take Ben's last two weeks he is 48/71 for 551 yards, 1 TD and I rush TD... that is a huge improvement considering he had 4 INT's in the previous two games before the Chargers and only played in half of one of those games. It's strides and it's also starting to build his confidence.

HUNT4SEVEN
11-21-2008, 10:03 AM
Besides BAs shiatty play calling at times, what's really missing is the fullback. 95% of our running plays tonight with a fullback gained chunks. I don't care who they throw back there.. McHue, Davis, Spaeth, Miller, whoever.. we need one. Those singleback sets when we all know its a run with either Moore or Parker barely break the LOS. Who gives a **** if they know we are running when they see the FB.. they can't stop it. BAs master plan with these bunch formations, more WRs and no FB will not cut it. He's handcuffing this team with his 'master plan.'

As TG said in the other thread.. Ernster is trash. Any other team (besides the Lions) would have capitalized off that gratutious field position. He's got to go, period. Bring Berger back and let him fight the pain.. he still kicked it 40+ yards. If Ernster stays, he will cost us, more than likely in the playoffs, where better teams will take advantage. You can't blame it on the winds at Heinz.. he can't kick from either direction.

:yellowthumb:well said

scott0326
11-21-2008, 11:22 AM
Mchugh had a huge block on the 4th down run by Russell.

Stlrs4Life
11-21-2008, 11:40 AM
I hate admit it, but BA called a decent game last night, but didn't use the FB until Holmes got hurt. Like said though, we need a good FB back there.

Dean Denton
11-21-2008, 11:41 AM
I know I'm not a pro football player, but I can tell you all this with a straight face.....I can punt the ball better then that idiot. I have done plenty of punt-kick competitions, and will put my big screen on the line to prove I can out-punt that duesh...