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DocHolliday1989
10-07-2008, 12:09 PM
Just some thoughts coming from my mind this morning ...

1. Bengals ILB Ray Maualuga USC
2. Texans QB Chase Daniel Missouri
3. Lions RB Javon Ringer Michigan State
4. Rams OT Michael Oher Ole Miss
5. Chiefs OLB James Laurinaitis Ohio State
6. Raiders WR Jeremy Meclin Missouri
7. Browns RB Chris Wells Ohio State
8. Seahawks WR Michael Crabtree Texas Tech
9. Eagles OT Phil Loadholt Oklahoma
10. Jaguars WR Percy Harvin Florida

These are just my opinions and I am not a paid writer, so feel free to give your opinions..

stillerorlando
10-15-2008, 09:34 PM
the most important change we need is the change to your mock. This order is from what could be the final records(imo)
1-Lions-Stafford, qb
2-Cinci-Maualuga, lb
3-Raiders-Orapko, de
4-KC-Andre Smith, t
5-Seattle-Oher, t
6-Rams-Earl Monroe, t
7-Texans-M Johnson, de
8-Browns-Laurenaitis, lb
9-SF-Crabtree, wr
10-Ravens-Vontae Davis, cb
11-Miami-Aaron Curry, lb
12-Jets-Wells, rb
13-Atl-Wm Moore, s
14-Vikings-Selvie, de
15-Philly-Ciron Black, t
16-Pats-Darius Heyward-Bey, wr
17-SD-Duke Robinson,g
18-Tampa-Jerry Macklin,wr
19-Jags-Percy Harvin, wr
20-Philly-T Mays,s
21-Bears-Jason Smith,t
22-Pack-Malcolm Jenkins,cb
23-Indy-Sen'derrick Marks,dt
24-Denver-Brian Cushing,lb
25-Bills-Jermane Gresham,te
26-Lions-Greg Hardy-de
27-Saints-T Cody,dt
28-Cards-Sean Wetherspoon,lb
29-Skins-Herman Johnson,g
30-Titans-Brandon Pettigrew,te
31-Pitt-Myron Rolle,s
32-NYG-Loadholt,t

DocHolliday1989
11-08-2008, 07:15 AM
There is no way that I would take Stafford no.1 overall for sure. He is a good player dont get me wrong, but not no. 1 overall. The way that I went with the order of the 1st round was by NFL.com's Lowly bottom 10 by records. The Jags on your list are picking 19 and their record is a top or bottom 10 spot right now.
:2cents:

TrojanHorse
11-08-2008, 03:32 PM
I think Stafford can easily go No. 1, if he chooses to come out. He's the prototype NFL QB. What I also like about Stiller's version is that only one receiver is in the top 10. Crabtree (if he comes out) is probably the only one worthy of a pick that high. The receiver position is the one most likely to bust, which is why we didn't see any picked in the first round last year.

steelcityrockers
11-09-2008, 04:02 PM
Just some thoughts coming from my mind this morning ...

1. Bengals ILB Ray Maualuga USC
2. Texans QB Chase Daniel Missouri
3. Lions RB Javon Ringer Michigan State
4. Rams OT Michael Oher Ole Miss
5. Chiefs OLB James Laurinaitis Ohio State
6. Raiders WR Jeremy Meclin Missouri
7. Browns RB Chris Wells Ohio State
8. Seahawks WR Michael Crabtree Texas Tech
9. Eagles OT Phil Loadholt Oklahoma
10. Jaguars WR Percy Harvin Florida

These are just my opinions and I am not a paid writer, so feel free to give your opinions..


Not a chance Chase Daniel sniffs the first round.

Javon Ringer is a good back but not Top-5. He has very little potential, asicaly what you see is what you get with him. He is undersized (5-9 200) but runs really hard and has only decent speed.

Laurenitis is a Middle Linebacker.

Browns would (should) take someone lie Okrapo over a running back. Backs are just too easy to find and you shouldn't take one that high unless he has one of a kind talent.

Andre Smith (form Alabama) will probably be the first Offensve Tackle selected.

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the most important change we need is the change to your mock. This order is from what could be the final records(imo)
1-Lions-Stafford, qb
2-Cinci-Maualuga, lb
3-Raiders-Orapko, de
4-KC-Andre Smith, t
5-Seattle-Oher, t
6-Rams-Earl Monroe, t
7-Texans-M Johnson, de
8-Browns-Laurenaitis, lb
9-SF-Crabtree, wr
10-Ravens-Vontae Davis, cb
11-Miami-Aaron Curry, lb
12-Jets-Wells, rb
13-Atl-Wm Moore, s
14-Vikings-Selvie, de
15-Philly-Ciron Black, t
16-Pats-Darius Heyward-Bey, wr
17-SD-Duke Robinson,g
18-Tampa-Jerry Macklin,wr
19-Jags-Percy Harvin, wr
20-Philly-T Mays,s
21-Bears-Jason Smith,t
22-Pack-Malcolm Jenkins,cb
23-Indy-Sen'derrick Marks,dt
24-Denver-Brian Cushing,lb
25-Bills-Jermane Gresham,te
26-Lions-Greg Hardy-de
27-Saints-T Cody,dt
28-Cards-Sean Wetherspoon,lb
29-Skins-Herman Johnson,g
30-Titans-Brandon Pettigrew,te
31-Pitt-Myron Rolle,s
32-NYG-Loadholt,t

4. The Chiefs already have a franchise Left Tackle in Branden Albert and you NEVER draft a Right Tackle that high. There is just no reason to.

8. I hate Laurenitis in a 3-4

9. While I think Michael Crabtree would be good for Frisco, they desperately need safety help and I think they might take William Moore if he is available.

20. Taylor Mays isn't een the best safety on his team. I think they would have to go Eric Berry (UT)

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Stafford really is a prototypical Quarter Back. He has awesome skills. His only problem is he throws a couple of passes each game that make you say "what was he thinking?"

MDSteel15
11-17-2008, 02:04 AM
If we aren't picking O-Line, the front office needs fired!!!!

K Train
11-18-2008, 04:41 PM
dream pick is oher, then smith, then monroe...we wont have a shot at any of them though. robinson is nasty...honestly i dont think theres gonna be any oline there where we pick, jackson or woods would be good picks for the dline around there though

JensK
11-18-2008, 04:47 PM
dream pick is oher, then smith, then monroe...we wont have a shot at any of them though. robinson is nasty...honestly i dont think theres gonna be any oline there where we pick, jackson or woods would be good picks for the dline around there though

i say trade up then... We are "somewhat" solid on most positions, but we really need an o-line man or two, who can step in as a rookie imho. Dunno if there is any o-line ppl who are worth trading up for tho..

K Train
11-18-2008, 08:38 PM
no smith, oher and monroe are all worth trading up for...but it wont happen. we better just hope robinson or someone falls to us

Black@Gold Forever32
11-18-2008, 09:25 PM
no smith, oher and monroe are all worth trading up for...but it wont happen. we better just hope robinson or someone falls to us

The Steelers should recieve an extra third round pick for losing Faneca.....Honestly I would trade up for a shot at Smith or Monroe.....But I think come draft time that Andre Smith will even pass Oher for the top OT in the class.......Smith is the best OT in this draft class.....Oher is 1b behind Smith...You know how much I like Oher also...

There is some other OTs I also like in this class....Ciron Black, Jason Smith, and Eben Britton to name a few other OTs the Steelers should take a look at.....But I wouldn't mind them packaging some picks and moving up to draft a Smith, Oher, or Monroe....

The Steelers need to upgrade at OT......The draft is the best way for them to upgrade....Unless they over pay in free agency for an OT......which the Steelers won't do

K Train
11-19-2008, 03:45 AM
smith is a potential pick imo, he'll go high based on upside...oher is very polished and hes the kind of guy i would want to build a line around. marvel smith isnt gonna get they type of money he was thinking he was gonna get so he might stick around.

it all really comes down to tony hills and what he can do. i hope stapleton runs away with center/rg like we are expecting him to do. lets bank on starks going away despite playing decent at LT for the second year in a row. i hate kemoeatu still, and i do like hartwig but i think they really want stapleton in that spot. and i like colon at guard still damnit lol

duke robinson isnt a branden albert type prospect but hes the best true guard to come out in a while the dude is ****ing nasty. id bust a nut if we got oher though, we would be soooo much better with a guy like him on the line, he would make everyone else better.

steelcityrockers
11-21-2008, 12:23 AM
I like Oher, but he is a product of ridiculous hype. He is more of a straight ahead run-blocker (think Marvel Smith-like) and is not really the most agile guy. He is capable in pass-blocking but he can really struggle with speed rushers. BG had him at 1B behind Andre Smith, but I am inclined to believe that he is the 3rd best tackle in this draft class behind Smith and the guy from Virginia who I can't remember right now.

I wouldn't mind us going DB in the first round. I like Ryan Clark a lot but he is replaceable and our corner backs (except for Taylor who is legit and MCFadden was looking pretty good) often leave something to be desired. I like Alphonso Smith (I think that is his last name?) for Wake. He is a ballhawk who has 19 career INT's.

K Train
11-21-2008, 12:29 AM
eugene monroe...i love him, if your good enough to make a player like branden albert be forced to play inside at guard your a ****ing badass

i despise everything about taking a DB in the first round

steelcityrockers
11-21-2008, 07:32 PM
And why would that be?

I am not saying our secondary is bad (they are pretty good, though the pass rush helps a ton) but some members could be replaced

JensK
11-22-2008, 07:00 AM
And why would that be?

I am not saying our secondary is bad (they are pretty good, though the pass rush helps a ton) but some members could be replaced

Obviously, some members could be replaced, but you have to see where we are most vulnerable atm, and that is definetly not our secondaries, but our o-line.

Steelers70
11-22-2008, 12:22 PM
I gotta say O-line or nothing. How many RBs and WRs can we draft? Limas Sweed may end up a good receiver one day but so far he's a bust. Mendenhall certainly has the signs of a bust. RBs tend to be able to play right off in the NFL unlike most other draft choices which can take a couple years to show their worth. Mendenhall didn't show any of the flash and punch we expected. And both were drafted instead of O-Line peeps. Granted, our second string o-liners seem fairly decent. (better than most of our first stringers IMO). I just think this skipping the O-Line over and over will bite us pretty quickly if it's not addressed. We're going to lose like 3 more of them this next offseason.

-Steelers70

Black@Gold Forever32
11-22-2008, 01:04 PM
If the Steelers resign McFadden then there won't be much of need to draft any corners.....Townsend will be back next year as the nickel corner and Willie Gay has shown he can play in this league and is fine as the 4th corner and will the nickel corner when Townsend is gone....

At safety the starters are fine....I could see the Steelers drafting a safety on the second day of the draft since there isn't much behind the starters......Carter isn't going to play forever and I don't expect Anthony Smith to be back next year......We havn't seen much from Smith all year....Its a shame since he is talented but he seems not have the mental part of the game....

The Steelers need to draft a couple OL....A LT and center would be nice.....Hartwig has done a solid job this year but the Steelers can do better....I like a couple centers in this draft.....

K Train
11-22-2008, 01:45 PM
And why would that be?

I am not saying our secondary is bad (they are pretty good, though the pass rush helps a ton) but some members could be replaced

i hate all reports of us looking at going corner in the first the last few years. you dont draft guys like revis and leon hall that high, theres to many guys just as good or better as 2nd or 3rd round prospects. every once in a while you get a dieon sanders or rod woodson or champ bailey but theres been no guys like that recently...the last CB i could have lived with was cromartie back in 05, since then weve seen ty hill, leon hall, revis, cason (who i did kinda like), mckelvin, DRC (who i also liked)...point is none of they guys we have are high draft picks (except troy obviously but i mean corners) but corners arent all that valuable to us especially right now while OLine is #1 and Dline is #2 priority

BlackGold4vr
11-25-2008, 06:39 PM
We have got to beef up in the trenches. Is there a Steeler fan out there who likes the performance of our O-line? The O-line is atrocious and has been this year and last. If we do not draft O-line & D-line in the first few rounds I will be outraged. O-line is our weakest link right now followed up by a lack of quality depth at D-line behind our starters. I would like to see our 1st, 2nd, and both 3rd round picks all spent on lineman.

Here are a few people I would like to see get some pink slips.

Marvel Smith - always hurt not getting any younger
Kendall Simmons - piece of ****
Max Starks - worthless and overpaid
Trai Essex - perenial back-up

I like Kemoeatu. He is a beast and is getting better. Colon needs to be moved inside and I am satisfied with the job Hartwig is doing. Jury is still out on Tony Hills. Stapleton is also improving and may someday replace Hartwig at center. We need tackles in the worst way.

Defensively our starting 3 are good but besides Chris Hoke the rest of the backups are practice squad scrubs. Kirschke, Eason, and Roye just don't inspire and none of them are starter quality. We need to pick up at least one DE that can be groomed to start someday. :2cents:

K Train
11-25-2008, 07:23 PM
would love tyson jackson or al woods from LSU if thers no lineman available. we have to think that oher, smith and monroe will all be gone long before we pick, probably alot of others as well...jason smith from baylor is gonna rise up the charts, were gonna have to hope for duke robinson to fall just because hes a guard cause tackles go fast as ****

Zachintosh66
11-25-2008, 07:32 PM
OL hands down... DL at worst

K Train
11-25-2008, 07:58 PM
either way you gotta take the best player available, lets just hope theres some quality guys that play on one of the lines available wherever we pick

BlackGold4vr
11-25-2008, 10:41 PM
would love tyson jackson or al woods from LSU if thers no lineman available. we have to think that oher, smith and monroe will all be gone long before we pick, probably alot of others as well...jason smith from baylor is gonna rise up the charts, were gonna have to hope for duke robinson to fall just because hes a guard cause tackles go fast as ****


Scout.com has started compiling their draft board but until the season is over and the underclassmen start to declare whether they will be eligible for the NFL draft the rankings mean nothing. Remember Branden Albert on last years board who went from maybe a second rounder to being picked 15th by K.C. I like to see how some of these guys play in the bowl games and then the seniors in the blue/grey game before I start salivating for certain players. Example, Chris Williams looked pretty good in that game last year and improved his stock in that game. I will reserve my wish-list until after the superbowl and underclassmen have declared their eligibility. My focus will be on O & D lineman as I hope the Steelers will be also. :yesnod:

champnation
12-15-2008, 12:46 AM
I think we will end up trading Leftwich or another to get a lower pick int he teens. I think we would do this if someone such as Oher slipped that far. No matter what I think we need to pick up an OL in first round or via free agency. Free agency might be better as we know they're proven.

Black@Gold Forever32
12-15-2008, 01:02 AM
Really the Steelers should focus on the OL....Yes I understand they need youth along the DL also....But I think they could squeeze another year out of this DL.....The DL has been solid all year and even the depth has been solid.....

OT and draft a damn kick returner as well.......I don't care if its a corner, WR or whatever just as long this teams adds a returner in the mix......But if a young DL like Tyson Jackson is available in the late first round and if all the top OTs are gone then yea I would have no problem with Jackson being picked......I prefer best available anyway.....

JoeThomas
12-23-2008, 08:44 PM
I think we will end up trading Leftwich or another to get a lower pick int he teens. I think we would do this if someone such as Oher slipped that far. No matter what I think we need to pick up an OL in first round or via free agency. Free agency might be better as we know they're proven.

trade lefty? isnt he a FA???