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Troyisabeast_43
09-30-2008, 06:16 PM
I know the game last night was not pretty and it looked like the Steelers were going to lose the game early on in the 2nd half but the bottom line is they found a way to get it done despite injuries to some key players and playing against a pretty damn good Baltimore team that I will admit I took for granted in a lot of areas. Once again it wasnt pretty and a work of art but at the end of the day it's a WIN and a pretty good character win that this Steelers team I think can build on and take with them for the final 12 games of the season.

As I stated earlier last week the Steelers needed this win in the worst way because it will now allow them at 3-1 now to control the division here for the remainder of the season now having the tiebraker over the Ravens who still have a lot of tough games upcoming on their schedule which I dont think they will be able to win. A win by the Ravens last night would have really put the Steelers under the gun going into Jacksonville this week being 2-2, with all the injuries they had last night; plus, losing at home on a Monday night to a rookie QB and all of those other things that will add up just would have not been good for this Steelers team. It's essentially a 2 game swing in the standings by finding a way to win that game last night. Had the Ravens won and gone to 3-0 and had the tiebraker over the Steelers by beating them at home on a Monday night and put the Steelers at 2-2 with the upcoming schedule they have coming up it would have really put the Steelers behind the 8-ball and made them start questioning themselves. Instead though you win a close hard fought division game at home and move to 3-1 and despite the injuries you go into the game with the Jags here Sunday night with a good feeling and still with a feeling of payback from the regular season and playoff losses they gave you last season.

Dean Denton
09-30-2008, 06:39 PM
Yes, payback in due. The Jags have it coming to them. I'm sure Tomlin wil be playing last years games all over for them to see like he did last year to try and get them pumped up. We are hurting, and i'm sure our boys are still sitting in those ice tubs trying to shake that pain. They played hard last night. I think the boo's at half time hurt them. I cant remember the last time they got booed like thatat home. WOW!!!!

Well, it woke um up, and they played like fighting dogs. I was proud of them. I would never boo my team. thats not my style. For the record, I'm still looking for that SOB that tossed that Beer on Kordell...lol

BlitzburghRockCity
09-30-2008, 07:08 PM
The team was yelping about payback heading in to the playoffs last year and we all saw how well that worked out for us. This team needs to regroup and get a win somehow next week. We're banged up and next week it isn't going to get any easier.

Stairwayto7
09-30-2008, 07:13 PM
3-1 thats good, but where is our progression? 3-1 and we beat the teams that we thought we would. its been ugly, now injuries are killings us. Last night was bitter sweet

Troyisabeast_43
09-30-2008, 08:02 PM
The team was yelping about payback heading in to the playoffs last year and we all saw how well that worked out for us. This team needs to regroup and get a win somehow next week. We're banged up and next week it isn't going to get any easier.

The Steelers really need to go no huddle this week against the Jags much like they did in the playoff game when it worked to near perfection in the 2nd half. They really need to look into this especially since they are going to be short on running backs this week. Let's face it something is wrong for whatever reason everytime we play the Jags. The gameplans the Steelers use just do not work. It's time for Tomlin and Arians especially to shake things up and try a different strategy or otherwise the same results are going to happen Sunday night in Jacksonville that have happened the last 4 times these two teams have meet and we all know what they were.

Black@Gold Forever32
09-30-2008, 10:49 PM
Playing in in Jacksonville has always been a House of Horrors for the Steelers....

In 1995 the Steelers lost in Jax that year when the Jags were a an expansion team that year....The next year in Jax the Steelers lost and also lost Greg Lloyd to a season ending knee injury...Of course I don't think any Steelers Fan will forget that crazy game down in Jax on Monday night during the 1997 season when the Jags blocked a last second field goal to seal the victory and Cowher acted like he was going to come onto the field and tackle the Jags player that returned the blocked field goal....The Steelers beat the Jags in Jacksonville during the 2000 season....But that was the game when rookie Plaxico Burress spiked a live football after catching a pass....lol

I believe the Steelers have only won 3 times in Jacksonville....Which one of them was in Ben's rookie year in 2004.... when he led the Steelers down for a last second field goal to give the Steelers the lead....Jags kicker Josh Scobee missed a last second field that was 60+ yards that just missed if memory serves me correct.....Then of course in 2006 in Ben's first start after the motor cycle accident the Steelers lost again in Jacksonville....

I always hate when the Steelers have to travel to Jacksonville...The Steelers offense has to bring their A-game (especially Ben).....I expect the Steelers to have no kind of running game Sunday night......With all the injuries that have hit the Steelers RBs and combine that with the Jags tough defense this game is all on Ben and his play makers in the passing game....

BlitzburghRockCity
09-30-2008, 11:00 PM
The Jags have had our number forever, there is just something about that team as BG32 said..no matter what we do when we play them it always backfires. I can't figure it out for the life of me other than they mirror what our identity used to be. A QB who manages the game and doesn't throw much, tough running game, stoudt defense, solid special teams. They have stayed that course over the years while we have moved to a different type of offense since Jerome left and probably even before that.

Right now we are beaten up and trying to piece together a 53 man roster to go play the Jags. If by some miracle we can go and win that game we'll be in great shape record wise heading into the bye but at this point I'll be happy if we even have 53 players before it's over next weekend..lol.

NOVA STEELERS
09-30-2008, 11:28 PM
I have watched every jagoffs game this year and they have not been impressive on either side of the ball when going up against any decent defense. I am really not worried about this weekend. If Matt Schwab can shredd there defense it would not surprise me if we put up 40 plus on them. I am not saying we will, but I do believe we in are for a showing of what we expect of our Offense this week. :crossfingers: With more No-Huddle and Ben doing the play calling we will go up big and roll on to a much deserved Bye Week :bigthumb: :cope:

Troyisabeast_43
09-30-2008, 11:57 PM
Playing in in Jacksonville has always been a House of Horrors for the Steelers....

In 1995 the Steelers lost in Jax that year when the Jags were a an expansion team that year....The next year in Jax the Steelers lost and also lost Greg Lloyd to a season ending knee injury...Of course I don't think any Steelers Fan will forget that crazy game down in Jax on Monday night during the 1997 season when the Jags blocked a last second field goal to seal the victory and Cowher acted like he was going to come onto the field and tackle the Jags player that returned the blocked field goal....The Steelers beat the Jags in Jacksonville during the 2000 season....But that was the game when rookie Plaxico Burress spiked a live football after catching a pass....lol

I believe the Steelers have only won 3 times in Jacksonville....Which one of them was in Ben's rookie year in 2004.... when he led the Steelers down for a last second field goal to give the Steelers the lead....Jags kicker Josh Scobee missed a last second field that was 60+ yards that just missed if memory serves me correct.....Then of course in 2006 in Ben's first start after the motor cycle accident the Steelers lost again in Jacksonville....

I always hate when the Steelers have to travel to Jacksonville...The Steelers offense has to bring their A-game (especially Ben).....I expect the Steelers to have no kind of running game Sunday night......With all the injuries that have hit the Steelers RBs and combine that with the Jags tough defense this game is all on Ben and his play makers in the passing game....
The bottom line with this game against the Jags this weekend as I stated before is the only way the Steelers win this game is if they go no huddle 4-5 wides 80-85 percent of this game and put the Jags on their heels early on. The Steelers always seem to have the same strategy with the Jags when they play them and that is they try to run the ball and go toe to toe with them and guess what?? It isnt going to work. It's time to shake things up once and for all this weekend and catch the Jags off guard some and do the no huddle for the majority of the game.

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The Jags have had our number forever, there is just something about that team as BG32 said..no matter what we do when we play them it always backfires. I can't figure it out for the life of me other than they mirror what our identity used to be. A QB who manages the game and doesn't throw much, tough running game, stoudt defense, solid special teams. They have stayed that course over the years while we have moved to a different type of offense since Jerome left and probably even before that.

Right now we are beaten up and trying to piece together a 53 man roster to go play the Jags. If by some miracle we can go and win that game we'll be in great shape record wise heading into the bye but at this point I'll be happy if we even have 53 players before it's over next weekend..lol.

As long as Ben Roethlisberger stays healthy on this team the Steelers have a chance to advance as far as anybody in the AFC. You saw it once again last night out of Ben that when he was under intense pressure he stepped up time and time again like with the Holmes TD, and the big play to Ward where he shrugged off the one guy, and even the check down play to Moore in OT. Those plays that Ben made there are one of the many reasons he is one of the better qb's in the NFL.

Moondog
10-01-2008, 10:19 AM
The Steelers really need to go no huddle this week against the Jags much like they did in the playoff game when it worked to near perfection in the 2nd half. They really need to look into this especially since they are going to be short on running backs this week. Let's face it something is wrong for whatever reason everytime we play the Jags. The gameplans the Steelers use just do not work. It's time for Tomlin and Arians especially to shake things up and try a different strategy or otherwise the same results are going to happen Sunday night in Jacksonville that have happened the last 4 times these two teams have meet and we all know what they were.

I agree with everything in this post, if the Steelers do not go to the no huddle in the Jaguars game, they will lose. It burns me up that if they would of did it in Philly, the Steelers could possibly be 4-0. Right now it puts them in the best position to win games and Ben seems to thrive when they do it, he's in his element.

NOVA STEELERS
10-01-2008, 09:47 PM
Steelers Team Report

Inside Slant

The Steelers need to make some more repairs in a hurry before they play at Jacksonville on Sunday. They lost two more running backs along with previously injured Willie Parker (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/7073/;_ylt=AitKCQpKmI481v16w3Z5PLvsrZJ4) and might add Najeh Davenport (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/6021/;_ylt=Al5t0NmcInYMCX7j6bVU.A_srZJ4) this week. Davenport played the previous two seasons for them but was cut before training camp this year. Parker will miss his second game with a sprained knee. Baltimore linebacker Ray Lewis (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/3542/;_ylt=Aox1VPmRNnezkNYpbycueKbsrZJ4) put rookie Rashard Mendenhall (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/8800/;_ylt=ArLheLqeUrhyBIEkUWSWW3HsrZJ4) out for the season Monday night with a fractured shoulder. Carey Davis (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/7078/;_ylt=AsM9Yuwh6ZgiDWY_rMjKvHvsrZJ4) has a sprained ankle. That left the Steelers with one healthy running back on their roster, Mewelde Moore (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/6878/;_ylt=Ao4.S1xmbVZFbL.x5uV34kvsrZJ4). They will work out Davenport this week and sign Gary Russell (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/8530/;_ylt=Avup5geCzpl3KJB5V.J.TYjsrZJ4) from their practice squad and look at another practice squad runner, Justin Vincent (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/8718/;_ylt=Ah1iKgJnTIpwkq6eWj4G0mXsrZJ4).

Parker should return for the following game in Cincinnati after their bye week and Davis could be ready by then too. They also lost starting right guard Kendall Simmons (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/5916/;_ylt=AuknSJ9h1XWSoE5x8ziaRfzsrZJ4) for the season with a torn Achilles tendon. The Steelers will move either veteran backup tackle Trai Essex (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/7269/;_ylt=AoqJyXxRtMYMYF9ILOiuD5PsrZJ4) into that spot or second-year guard Darnell Stapleton (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/8531/;_ylt=Aq3W3jKotOrpniM3vgKlUr_srZJ4). The Steelers already were missing two-thirds of their starting defensive line, end Brett Keisel (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/6101/;_ylt=AuZpdNNnGlWADN31n26r_DfsrZJ4), who remains out with a calf injury, and Pro Bowl nose tackle Casey Hampton (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/5466/;_ylt=AtvhrH1HQrgnJ8bmQD_6xk7srZJ4), who has a groin injury.
“That is football and we accept that,” coach Mike Tomlin said of the injuries. “It is only devastating if you allow it to be. We are a team and we are a team for a reason. People are not concerned with our problems; they are probably happy that we have them.”

Notes, Quotes

• The Steelers won for the 14th consecutive time at home on Monday nights. Their last loss on Monday at home came in 1991.
• Jeff Reed (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/6290/;_ylt=AqZtylcFH7t7B4KS9tdPQPrsrZJ4)’s 46-yard field goal to win it was his first in overtime in the regular season. He defeated the Jets in an overtime game in the playoffs. It was Reed’s seventh winner near the end of a game.
• QB Ben Roethlisberger (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/6770/;_ylt=Agci4kB4lVMRbRZnC319GMvsrZJ4) has been lobbying his coaches to use more no-huddle and they let him do it in the third quarter Monday night. The result: A 38-yard touchdown pass to Santonio Holmes (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/7774/;_ylt=AiezS.fMOI.U5VtonThBxbvsrZJ4), their first of the game. “Coach has faith in me and I have faith in the guys that we could get it done,” Roethlisberger said. “I think we did a great job. It was kind of the spark that got us going.”

Strategy And Personnel

PLAYER NOTES
• WR Santonio Holmes caught his first touchdown pass of the season and returned punts on a fulltime basis for the first time in a game in 2008.
• LB James Harrison (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/6314/;_ylt=AjTF2ff_YZ4ttaQVA6WVDNXsrZJ4) had 2.5 more sacks to give him 5.5 after four games. He led the Steelers with 8.5 last season, his first as a starter.
• LB LaMarr Woodley (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/8300/;_ylt=AvINCi3jfRDEuUfAU35EwZLsrZJ4) added 1.5 sacks Monday to give him 3.5 in his first season as the starter on the left outside. Clark Haggans (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/5166/;_ylt=Ai76BZ2gFcNEqqvfT6OBq4fsrZJ4) had four as the starter all last season.
• QB Ben Roethlisberger does not have a 200-yard passing game this season. His 191 yards Monday vs. Baltimore is his season high.
• RB Mewelde Moore had no receptions and one carry before Monday night, when he carried eight times and caught three passes.

REPORT CARD VS. RAVENS
Passing Offense: C—Considering they had to go against the Ravens, it’s a strong grade. Pittsburgh, though, could do little in the first half when Ben Roethlisberger was sacked three times, threw an interception and fumbled (recovered by a teammate). However, he connected on third down with Santonio Holmes on a play that brought the Steelers to life and catapulted them to a win, a 38-yard TD pass when they trailed 13-3 in the third quarter. Roethlisberger finished 14 of 24 for 191 yards and an 80.4 passer rating. He was not sacked in the second half and completed two big third-down plays on the winning drive in OT.
Rushing Offense: D—Not terrible when considering they ran against the Ravens without injured Willie Parker and by the fourth quarter were left with one healthy running back, Mewelde Moore. They ran 28 times for 69 yards, an average of 2.5 yards per carry with no touchdowns.
Pass Defense: B-plus—Joe Flacco (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/8795/;_ylt=At2hMPCFCQAyofqDtSeB6unsrZJ4) threw a touchdown pass and no interceptions, but he was harassed all game. The Steelers sacked the rookie quarterback five times, scoring on one when LaMarr Woodley picked up a James Harrison-caused fumble by Flacco and scored a go-ahead TD. Flacco completed 16 of 31 for 192 yards and had an 81.7 rating.
Rush Defense: B—Down two starting offensive linemen to injuries, the Steelers held their own against a good running team. Baltimore managed 103 yards rushing and a 3.1-yard average with one touchdown but had no run longer than 12 yards and never really gouged the Steelers’ defense.
Special Teams: B—Other than their punter, the Steelers played a near perfect kicking game. Jeff Reed made all three of his field-goal tries, including his 46-yard winner in overtime. Baltimore returned four punts for an average of just 1.8 yards and six kickoffs for an average of only 20 yards. Mitch Berger (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/2861/;_ylt=AvZu7EM05hi4XuxObZRDaibsrZJ4), though, got off a couple of bad punts late in the game that jeopardized their chance to win.
Coaching: C—Mike Tomlin cost his team a touchdown that would have put them up by 11 in the fourth quarter when he called a time out just before Ben Roethlisberger threw a four-yard touchdown pass to Mewelde Moore. :evilshake: They wound up with a field goal on that drive. However, Tomlin and his staff did a decent job and once again Dick LeBeau showed why he’s one of the most renowned defensive coordinators in the league. The best play calling of the day, however, came from Roethlisberger in the no-huddle offense that produced his team’s first touchdown. :duh: What a Concept :bigfinger: Arians :buttkick:

BlitzburghRockCity
10-01-2008, 11:04 PM
Man do we ever need this bye week in the worst way; I'm just hoping we make it through the Jags game and still have enough guys left on the team at this rate.

BlitzburghNation
10-01-2008, 11:43 PM
This is what really burns my :moon:
QB Ben Roethlisberger does not have a 200-yard passing game this season. His 191 yards Monday vs. Baltimore is his season high.

Too much talent to get this crappy ,,,,,,,, :cursin:
Gotta agree with everyone on here,,,,,,,Arians needs to go "NOW"

Not really worried alot about stats,,,,,,,,Just sick of ben getting malled all the friggin time!

Even though our o-line has sucked :moon: and arians b.s. play calling :cursin:

Even as bad as we've been on offense, we are still 3-1 ,,,,So just imagine what could happen if we fix our problems,which we had better do before the hell month of november!

Never say Never,,,,,,,,Lotta football to be played and all the so-called stud teams are not looking so studly right now !

Bet no-one on here "including me" after that loss to the jags in '05 thought we had a chance of winning superbowl XL and just look at last year when playoffs started, who picked the G-Men to win it all :popcorn:
Just saying, we still have a shot & we could get hot at the right time of the season and bring home that 6th title :crossfingers:

We will get better, "Mark it Down" :towelwave: