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mental.apparition
06-30-2008, 06:56 PM
Only one Steeler on the list and you should know who that is without looking down.

Lots of questions in this list... :scratch:


1. Tom Brady, QB, New England Patriots: Can he do any more than he did last season? The scary thing for the rest of the league is, yes he can.

2. Peyton Manning, QB, Indianapolis Colts: Even Manning's down seasons are sensational. If Marvin Harrison is back this year, watch out.

3. LaDainian Tomlinson, RB, San Diego Chargers: His failure to play in the AFC Championship Game hurts his rep some, but he's still the best runner in the game.

4. Randy Moss, WR, New England Patriots: Talk about resurrecting a reputation. He wasn't on many top 50 lists a year ago. Now he's a top 10 player.

5. Champ Bailey, CB, Denver Broncos: It's chic to pick his game apart. That's foolish. Bailey is still the best cover corner in the game.

6. Mario Williams, DE, Houston Texans: Williams is making the Texans proud for passing on Reggie Bush and Vince Young to take this pass rusher. He might have been the league's best defensive player in the final eight weeks of 2007.

7. Bob Sanders, S, Indianapolis Colts: The only thing holding him back is the injury issues. When he's on the field, the Colts have a different defense.

8. Carson Palmer, QB, Cincinnati Bengals: After Brady and Manning he's the third-best quarterback. The Bengals need to run it a little better to take the heat off him.

9. DeMarcus Ware, OLB, Dallas Cowboys: He was given more freedom in Wade Phillips' version of the 3-4 and played better in 2007. Ware is a speed rusher who has his best football still in front of him.

10. Kevin Williams, DT, Minnesota Vikings: He is a powerful inside player who teams with Pat Williams to form the best tackle tandem in the league. He is good against the run, yet quick enough to get pass-rush penetration.

11. Shawne Merriman, LB, San Diego Chargers: Merriman is a pass-rush force off the edge. His quickness and power are the perfect combination for the Chargers' 3-4 system. You have to account for him on every pass play.

12. Jared Allen, DE, Minnesota Vikings: He led the league in sacks last season with the Chiefs. The Vikings added him to give them the best defensive line in the league. Allen plays hard all the time.

13. Terrell Owens, WR, Dallas Cowboys: Forget all the theatrics. He's a star player. He bounced back from his off 2006 season to be one of the best last season. I'd take him on my team any day.

14. Albert Haynesworth, DT, Tennessee Titans: Before he got hurt midway through last season, he was on his way to a potential Defensive Player of the Year award. When motivated, he is as good as anybody inside.

15. Adrian Peterson, RB, Minnesota Vikings: Peterson was special as a rookie and should be even better this time around. He is a big, strong and fast and can rip off the big runs with an Eric Dickerson-like ease.

16. Walter Jones, T, Seattle Seahawks: Jones is a rock on the left side of the Seattle line. He is a great pass protector who has improved as a run blocker.

17. Ben Roethlisberger, QB, Pittsburgh Steelers: At 26, he's entering his prime. Roethlisberger has developed into a quality passer. Playing behind a bad line last year, he hung in tough and led the Steelers to a division title.

18. Charles Woodson, CB, Green Bay Packers: Ask Packers insiders who was better last season, Woodson or Pro Bowl player Al Harris. The answer is Woodson. After Bailey, I'd take him over all other corners.

19. Steve Hutchinson, G, Minnesota Vikings: He wasn't his usual self in his first season with the Vikings in 2006, but bounced back to his dominating form last year.

20. Brian Westbrook, RB, Philadelphia Eagles: It's scary to think what the Eagles offense would be like without him. He's a better runner inside the tackles than many expected and he's good in the passing game. He's a versatile weapon.

21. Steve Smith, WR, Carolina Panthers: He was hurt last season when Jake Delhomme went down. It doesn't help that Smith has little help on the other side. Defenses all double him.

22. Reggie Wayne, WR, Indianapolis Colts: When Marvin Harrison was out last season, Wayne emerged as the team's go-to receiver. The guess here is that is that it stays that way. He's a true star now.

23. Ed Reed, S, Baltimore Ravens: He is the prototype modern safety: rangy and can still tackle. He is what safeties like Roy Williams wish they could be.

24. Antonio Gates, TE, San Diego Chargers: When the Chargers need a first down through the air, Gates is that guy. And he does it facing constant double-coverage.

25. Dwight Freeney, DE, Indianapolis Colts: He's coming off a serious foot injury, which is a concern. It's why his ranking is down. When he's truly healthy, he's a top 15 player.

26. Andre Johnson, WR, Houston Texans: Injuries limited him last season, but Johnson is one of the best when he's on the field. The Texans were a different team without him last season.

27. Jason Peters, T, Buffalo Bills: I love young, rising players like Peters. He plays with a mean streak. Watching him play is like watching a defensive player go at it.

28. Chad Johnson, WR, Cincinnati Bengals: He isn't nearly as good as he thinks he is. But he's still pretty damn good. He does have a tendency to disappear in big games.

29. Nnamdi Asomugha, CB, Oakland Raiders: DeAngelo Hall might get more attention on the other side this season, but Asomugha is a better player. He's been overlooked for the past two seasons.

30. Richard Seymour, DE, New England Patriots: He played hurt last season and wasn't the same player as in years past. But he's still one of the best when he's healthy.

31. Larry Fitzgerald, WR, Arizona Cardinals: The Cardinals gave him a new contract in March because he's their go-to guy. He teams with Anquan Boldin to form one of the top receiving duos.

32. Brian Urlacher, LB, Chicago Bears: A few years back he was overrated. He's not anymore. Urlacher excels in the middle of the Chicago defense.

33. Steven Jackson, RB, St. Louis Rams: The offensive line woes of the Rams really hurt Jackson last season. That line will be better this season and his numbers will go up.

34. Braylon Edwards, WR, Cleveland Browns: Edwards was second to Moss with 16 receiving touchdowns in his third season in the league. He averaged 16.1 per catch and will only get better as he hits his prime.

35. Drew Brees, QB, New Orleans Saints: For the second consecutive season, Brees put up huge numbers in the Saints offense. He might not be the biggest or have the strongest arm, but Brees knows how to throw the football.

36. Tommie Harris, DT, Chicago Bears: Harris is strong and quick. He had eight sacks last season, showing off his quickness. He can still hold the point against the run.

37. Asante Samuel, CB, Philadelphia Eagles: He had a big season at the right time, cashing in on a huge deal with the Eagles. He's great at playing the ball in the air, but some scouts think he freelances too much.

38. Shawn Andrews, G, Philadelphia Eagles: He's a huge guard at 6-4, 345 pounds and he shows off that power when blocking for the run. He improved in pass protection in 2007, although the Eagles line regressed as a whole.

39. Ernie Sims, LB, Detroit Lions: It's too bad more people don't get to watch him play. He's a fast linebacker who always seems to find his way to the football. He's a younger Derrick Brooks.

40. Lofa Tatupu, LB, Seattle Seahawks: He's a fierce tackler in the middle of that Seattle defense. He's not big at 6-feet tall, but he plays big. You can tell he loves the game.

41. Vince Wilfork, DT, New England Patriots: He was the best front-seven player on the Pats defense last season. He's a load in the middle. Moving him off the ball is tough for any center.

42. Osi Umenyiora, DE, New York Giants: His speed off the right side is a huge plus for the New York defense. Without Mike Strahan playing on the other side this season, it will be interesting to see how Umenyiora does now.

43. Patrick Willis, LB, San Francisco 49ers: It didn't take him long to establish himself as a top middle linebacker. He is fast, active and packs a punch. In a year or so, he might be the best insider linebacker in the game.

44. Kellen Winslow, TE, Cleveland Browns: He has emerged as one of the rising stars for a rising team. His ability to stretch the defense is vital to the Cleveland offense.

45. Aaron Kampman, DE, Green Bay Packers: He plays all out all the time. Despite being light at 265 pounds, he holds up against the run at left end quite well. He has speed and strength as a pass rusher.

46. Tony Gonzalez, TE, Kansas City Chiefs: He's one of those guys who doesn't seem to ever slow down. He had 99 catches last year in a bad offense.

47. Marcus Trufant, CB, Seattle Seahawks: He led all NFC corners with seven interceptions. He also got credit for 22 passes defensed. He has emerged as a top-tier corner.

48. Wes Welker, WR, New England Patriots: Yes, he belongs on this list. He had an amazing season as a slot receiver in 2007. Even when teams knew he was getting the football, he made plays.

49. Fred Taylor, RB, Jacksonville Jaguars: Taylor finally got his due last season with his first Pro Bowl appearance. At 32, he remains one of the biggest home-run threats in the league. His 5.4 per-carry average was second best among the league's best rushers to Peterson (5.6).

50. Devin Hester, KR, Chicago Bears: I don't normally put return men on these lists, but this guy has earned it. It will be interesting to see how long he can maintain it.

Just missed: Julius Peppers, DE, Carolina Panthers; Larry Johnson, RB, Kansas City Chiefs; Patrick Kerney, DE, Seattle Seahawks; Troy Polamalu, S, Pittsburgh Steelers; Adrian Wilson, S, Arizona Cardinals; Antonio Cromartie, CB, San Diego Chargers' Terence Newman, CB, Dallas Cowboys; DeMeco Ryans, LB, Houston Texans; Tony Romo, QB, Dallas Cowboys.

http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/story/10877567

steelcityrockers
06-30-2008, 07:51 PM
Mario Williams ahead of Jared Allen is retarded. No offense to Mario who I really like, just Allen is better at this point.
Charles Woodson had one hell of a year, but isn't the 18th best player. Nnamdi Asomugha is so good, people simply don't throw to his side. That is why his number were down. He is right after Champ Bailey imo.

steelerschick1220
06-30-2008, 08:26 PM
I thought we deserved more then one player on this list. However, it was funny to see all the Boys fans whining because Romeo wasn't ranked.

JoeThomas
06-30-2008, 11:22 PM
i think palmer is too high. id have ben over him. cant argue with much else. its someones opinion. all of us can make a list and it would all be different. might of had braylon a few spots higher.

Black@Gold Forever32
06-30-2008, 11:31 PM
Mario Williams ahead of Jared Allen is retarded. No offense to Mario who I really like, just Allen is better at this point.
Charles Woodson had one hell of a year, but isn't the 18th best player. Nnamdi Asomugha is so good, people simply don't throw to his side. That is why his number were down. He is right after Champ Bailey imo.

Well it is Pete Prisco so no surprise that some of his ranking are retarded....:lol: I just think sometimes he goes by potential rather then looking at how consistent the player has been....Allen has been consistently a badass for a few years now and Mario has been a badass for one season......So I agree with you on Jared Allen......I wouldn't have Woodson as the 18th best player either....

Carson being higher then Ben is debatable......

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Ok....Just saw that Troy was on the just missed list....That is highly laughable....He should be anywhere close to the top 50 or the just missed.....He has been a bum for two years in a row....lol

K Train
07-01-2008, 12:29 AM
ben was 16th last year...he dropped? lol

this list is so cliche....based on reputation alone on alot of them

quality entertainment though

AZ_Steeler
07-01-2008, 12:29 AM
I thought we deserved more then one player on this list. However, it was funny to see all the Boys fans whining because Romeo wasn't ranked.

It's funny how someone comes out and has one good year and then everyone thinks they deserve to be one of the best in the league :lol: I think once the Boys fans are reminded how Romo lost their playoff game for them in 2007 :bigthumb:

JoeThomas
07-01-2008, 01:34 AM
he put alot of 1st or 2nd year guys on this list too. id say to be one of the top 50 you need at least 3 years of action with 2 playing at a high calibur. it would be very very hard to do. guys like peterson would be off the list. id also drop hayensworth and woodson down. and kick welker off the list. its really skewed the more i look at it.

yinzer
07-01-2008, 06:25 PM
they put ben behind carson?? i'm confused...

steelcityrockers
07-01-2008, 09:41 PM
That is debatable. Carson is one of the top QB's in the NFL. Last year he had a pretty good year without much of a supporting cast, save for Chad and TJ. The OLine was VERY inconsistent and they had NO running game. Plus the defense was dreadful and he was constantly behind. He IS the Bengals team. Without him they would be a lot like the Lions.

steelerschick1220
07-01-2008, 09:41 PM
It's funny how someone comes out and has one good year and then everyone thinks they deserve to be one of the best in the league :lol: I think once the Boys fans are reminded how Romo lost their playoff game for them in 2007 :bigthumb:

Yeah, I agree. Dude had a good season last year, but has choked in the playoffs for the past two years. Once he wins a game, then he might be worthy of getting on there.

I agree with the rest of ya'll that Carson shouldn't be ranked over Ben.

steelcityrockers
07-01-2008, 09:43 PM
Romo has had two good years.. And go back to the last page for my support of Palmer.

yinzer
07-02-2008, 02:30 PM
That is debatable. Carson is one of the top QB's in the NFL. Last year he had a pretty good year without much of a supporting cast, save for Chad and TJ. The OLine was VERY inconsistent and they had NO running game. Plus the defense was dreadful and he was constantly behind. He IS the Bengals team. Without him they would be a lot like the Lions.

ya but he STILL isn't as good as ben, never has been, never will be. this isn't a question of whether or not palmer is good. it's a question of why he was placed above ben on the list.

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and, just to address romo's capabilities... he SHIATS the bed when it counts! simple as that.

TEEMONT
07-02-2008, 05:48 PM
That is debatable. Carson is one of the top QB's in the NFL. Last year he had a pretty good year without much of a supporting cast, save for Chad and TJ. The OLine was VERY inconsistent and they had NO running game. Plus the defense was dreadful and he was constantly behind. He IS the Bengals team. Without him they would be a lot like the Lions.

Are you talking about Carson or Ben?

JensK
07-02-2008, 06:02 PM
That is debatable. Carson is one of the top QB's in the NFL. Last year he had a pretty good year without much of a supporting cast, save for Chad and TJ. The OLine was VERY inconsistent and they had NO running game. Plus the defense was dreadful and he was constantly behind. He IS the Bengals team. Without him they would be a lot like the Lions.

He might be the team, but that dosnt make him better than ben >.> You can't really say that ben had a consistent OLine last year either, nor did we have the best year rushingwise :-P And still, ben ended up with 3th best passer raiting, and some really neat numbers. Carson did not.

steelcityrockers
07-02-2008, 06:09 PM
I was talking about Carson. He had less to work with then Ben. I would put Carson ahead if only because he has had more than one really good season. Ben is an excellent QB, don't get me wrong. He has only had one really good season though. His first two were good, but he did not have the big numbers. Carson was absolutely unstoppable in 2005 and had a very good year in 2006: 324/520 62.3 4035 28 13 93.9.

JensK
07-02-2008, 06:11 PM
I was talking about Carson. He had less to work with then Ben. I would put Carson ahead if only because he has had more than one really good season. Ben is an excellent QB, don't get me wrong. He has only had one really good season though. His first two were good, but he did not have the big numbers. Carson was absolutely unstoppable in 2005 and had a very good year in 2006: 324/520 62.3 4035 28 13 93.9.

What puts ben ahead of Carson there, imo, is that Ben ended up with a SB ring on his finger, even though he didnt play amazing, Carson did not ^^

Callax
03-24-2009, 09:52 PM
This list is bogus!!!
Troy is not on the top 50???
who would you rather have on the field, Sanders, Troy or Reed??
Reed- int's for TD's don't throw near him or it is pick 6 the other way.
sanders WHEN HEALTHY great safety
BUT I'LL TAKE TROY
can pass rush cover like a corner hit like a freight train and win you some games -int for TD against Balt in AFC CHAMPIONSHIP

PsychoWard
03-25-2009, 09:11 AM
This list is a joke Brady didn't play a game last year and he is number 1?? people need to get off there knees!!!!!

and The Defense player of the year not on the top 50 :wtf:

DIESELMAN
03-25-2009, 02:51 PM
This list is based on the 2007 season.....we can't find anything current? :greengrin:


June 25, 2008
By Pete Prisco (http://www.cbssports.com/columns/writers/prisco)
CBSSports.com Senior Writer

BFISHIN80
03-25-2009, 04:00 PM
Only one Steeler on the list and you should know who that is without looking down.

Lots of questions in this list... :scratch:



http://www.sportsline.com/nfl/story/10877567


Wow ........ I think the creator of this list has been in a coma for the past three years.

DIESELMAN
03-25-2009, 04:05 PM
This article was written 25 June 2008, its based on 2007 season results.

Dean Denton
03-25-2009, 04:20 PM
Who made this list, my daughter? Its one thing to not have Troy in the top 10, but to not be on the list....hahaha. I'm done on this thread.

DIESELMAN
03-25-2009, 04:31 PM
Troy wasn't a factor in 2007, he missed 5 games due to injury, no sacks, no INT's and 58 total tackles. Hell no he's not going to be on this list.