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Black@Gold Forever32
04-29-2008, 02:06 AM
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08120/877467-66.stm

The NFL draft not only provided a rocket booster to the Steelers' offense, it might change part of their playbook. Get ready for the arrival of the Pony backfield, a concept that disappeared from the Steelers' playbook more than 15 years ago.

The idea of lining up two runners in the same backfield went out the window for the most part when Chuck Noll retired in 1991. Since then, the Steelers almost always paired a blocking fullback and a tailback, or deployed a one-back offense. The arrival of Illinois running back Rashard Mendenhall in the first round of the draft Saturday changed all that.

Bruce Arians -- who called Mendenhall a bigger, faster Edgerrin James -- said he will dust off the Pony backfield portion of the playbook he used in Cleveland and try it next season. Mendenhall and Fast Willie Parker in the same backfield at the same time should give defenses plenty to think about.

"Other than the normal one-two punch, they can play together," offensive coordinator Arians said yesterday. "Rashard has enough size as a pass blocker and pass receiver and Willie is improving in that area every year as a receiver."

The Steelers' most famous one-two running punch was Franco Harris and Rocky Bleier in the 1970s. They became only the second teammates to rush for 1,000 yards in the same season in 1976 (it has been done twice since then). The Steelers had running pairs in the same backfield later, such as Frank Pollard and Walter Abercrombie/Earnest Jackson, and Merril Hoge and Tim Worley. The running duo, though, was phased out under coach Bill Cowher, whose coordinators believed in one runner and a blocking fullback.

The Steelers, though, have not had two halfbacks with such pedigrees in a long time. Parker made the past two Pro Bowls and ran for more than 1,200 yards in each of the past three seasons. Mendenhall, the first halfback the Steelers drafted in the first round since Worley in 1989, rushed for 1,681 yards last season and caught 34 passes.

Each can block and catch well enough to make a go of it, Arians said.

"They could block for each other. Willie is capable. You're not going to ask him to lead on the linebacker, but he can handle certain things.

"Again, it'll be a package. It won't be the focal point of the offense because you'd beat the two guys up. But it gives you another package, and in the middle of the season if you lose somebody you have a package you can go to."

Understandably, Arians was overjoyed with the selections of Mendenhall (at No. 23) and wide receiver Limas Sweed (at No. 53) in the second round. The Steelers had those players rated much higher than they were taken.

"I was shocked," Arians said. "It was because of the run on linemen. People panicked. I called it a panic attack on offensive linemen. All of a sudden guys were trading away future picks and stuff to go get one of those tackles because this was the year to get a tackle. And when it happened, the tremendous skill guys dropped. Man, they were passing them up."

Arians was an assistant coach in Indianapolis when the Colts made James the fourth overall pick of the 1999 draft.

He said he rated Mendenhall "a bigger, faster Edgerrin James" and at 225 he can probably add another 5 pounds.

"He's 10 pounds heavier than Edge was and a tenth faster. He has those types of hands and power. Edge, I thought, did as good a job as anybody running the clock out, when he was in Indianapolis for sure. Being able to split out of the backfield is a unique kind of talent."

Parker said the week before the draft that adding another good running back might help extend his career by sharing the load.

"He extends Willie's career, for sure," Arians said. "And it's not like just taking Willie out of the game and putting in a sub, you're putting in a high-caliber guy, close to him, yet different."

Sweed gives the Steelers more depth, another deep threat and the kind of target Ben Roethlisberger wanted, not only a tall receiver at 6-foot-4 but one who has a wide range. Arians calls it the hula-hoop theory, a receiver who extends the area around him in which he can catch the ball. He said Hines Ward and Santonio Holmes also have that ability, in smaller packages.

"Then you don't have to put it on the money every time," Arians said. "You can throw a little behind on purpose -- this kid has that kind of talent."

The two electric additions to his offense should help strike that balance between the run and the pass and also make it more versatile, Arians said. And holding leads in the second half might just have become easier.

"There are a lot of ways to kill the clock; it's just a matter of making first downs," Arians said. "The sure-fire way is if you can beat somebody to death. We were able do that in September and October, and we were not able to do that in December and January for a number of reasons. It is something we were not accustomed to."

I agree with Arian's comparison with Mendenhall to Edge James...I mentioned that to my brother when Rashard was drafted...He said I was crazy...He does like Medenhall but he thought that comparison was far fetched...Arians thinks other wise...:lol:

BlitzburghRockCity
04-29-2008, 02:11 AM
Putting those 2 together on he field at the same time in certain situations could be deadly for a defense. Both of them are fast, both can catch the ball, you wouldn't be able to focus on just one. That would force the defense to really be gap sound and just the slightest crack in the front 7 and one of them is off the races. It's an interesting concept that I certainly can't wait to see how they develop.

Black@Gold Forever32
04-29-2008, 02:17 AM
Putting those 2 together on he field at the same time in certain situations could be deadly for a defense. Both of them are fast, both can catch the ball, you wouldn't be able to focus on just one. That would force the defense to really be gap sound and just the slightest crack in the front 7 and one of them is off the races. It's an interesting concept that I certainly can't wait to see how they develop.

I love this idea.......How can't you? Its going to be a very exciting seasons.....Mendenhall is going to be nightmare for defenses and if you throw this pony backfield out there at times with Parker on the field at the same time....Then the options in the passing game.....Schemes like this should help Ben get rid of the ball more quickly and reducing the number of sacks...

BlitzburghRockCity
04-29-2008, 02:29 AM
The more weapons you have on the field at any one time the more creative and unpredictable you can be. I mean lets face it you can't double cover Hines, Santonio, Limas, and Heath plus worry about Parker and Mendenhall. The time is right and we have the potential to be just awesome. Ben will have so many outlets to pass the ball too his head will be spinning..LOL.

TEEMONT
04-29-2008, 02:29 AM
I like the idea....cant be too bad of an idea...if Arians really is this mad scientist, then lets see it.

blinkbdj
04-29-2008, 02:30 AM
Interesting concept...can't wait to see it used. Good read man!

ARKIESTEEL
04-29-2008, 09:07 AM
This pony backfield is this like the wishbone? or do they line up in an I formation?

Steel58
04-29-2008, 09:37 AM
I like the idea of Arians putting both of them in the backfield. Ben will have many weapons to work with.This offense will be awesome!:tt02::cope:

steelerfan11
04-29-2008, 12:07 PM
I think it would be a split backfield, not an I or a wishbone.

I would like to see the wishbone formation implemented. Something like what (i think) Navy runs their Offense.

Why wouldn't Arians use the playbook that Noll used? It worked then so it would probably work again now...right?

ejsteeler
04-29-2008, 12:25 PM
I have fond memories of seeing this work well with Harris and Blier. I think it can be a very disturbing scheme to defense. Throw in a third receiver we hope is mature enough to start leaving 5 deadly weapons on the field and it could be lots of fun. Sure, in that particular package there would be no TE, but it still would be hard to defend.

BlitzburghNation
04-29-2008, 02:32 PM
I am sooooooooo :ktrain: for the season to start :towelwave:

TEEMONT
04-29-2008, 03:53 PM
I like the idea, just don't like the comparisons.

Iron City South
04-29-2008, 03:54 PM
Excellent idea. I suggested last year that we use a 2 back set to off-set the ****** play of a very underwhelming OL ....

Anytime you have 2 backs in the backfield, you can get away with being an "average" line.

TEEMONT
04-29-2008, 04:06 PM
Excellent idea. I suggested last year that we use a 2 back set to off-set the shiatty play of a very underwhelming OL ....

Anytime you have 2 backs in the backfield, you can get away with being an "average" line.

and I invented the question mark.....

Stlrs4Life
04-29-2008, 11:31 PM
I also like the idea. Especially since it was done with Bleir and Franco.

Stairwayto7
11-17-2008, 06:26 PM
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08120/877467-66.stm

The NFL draft not only provided a rocket booster to the Steelers' offense, it might change part of their playbook. Get ready for the arrival of the Pony backfield, a concept that disappeared from the Steelers' playbook more than 15 years ago.

The idea of lining up two runners in the same backfield went out the window for the most part when Chuck Noll retired in 1991. Since then, the Steelers almost always paired a blocking fullback and a tailback, or deployed a one-back offense. The arrival of Illinois running back Rashard Mendenhall in the first round of the draft Saturday changed all that.

Bruce Arians -- who called Mendenhall a bigger, faster Edgerrin James -- said he will dust off the Pony backfield portion of the playbook he used in Cleveland and try it next season. Mendenhall and Fast Willie Parker in the same backfield at the same time should give defenses plenty to think about.

"Other than the normal one-two punch, they can play together," offensive coordinator Arians said yesterday. "Rashard has enough size as a pass blocker and pass receiver and Willie is improving in that area every year as a receiver."

The Steelers' most famous one-two running punch was Franco Harris and Rocky Bleier in the 1970s. They became only the second teammates to rush for 1,000 yards in the same season in 1976 (it has been done twice since then). The Steelers had running pairs in the same backfield later, such as Frank Pollard and Walter Abercrombie/Earnest Jackson, and Merril Hoge and Tim Worley. The running duo, though, was phased out under coach Bill Cowher, whose coordinators believed in one runner and a blocking fullback.

The Steelers, though, have not had two halfbacks with such pedigrees in a long time. Parker made the past two Pro Bowls and ran for more than 1,200 yards in each of the past three seasons. Mendenhall, the first halfback the Steelers drafted in the first round since Worley in 1989, rushed for 1,681 yards last season and caught 34 passes.

Each can block and catch well enough to make a go of it, Arians said.

"They could block for each other. Willie is capable. You're not going to ask him to lead on the linebacker, but he can handle certain things.

"Again, it'll be a package. It won't be the focal point of the offense because you'd beat the two guys up. But it gives you another package, and in the middle of the season if you lose somebody you have a package you can go to."

Understandably, Arians was overjoyed with the selections of Mendenhall (at No. 23) and wide receiver Limas Sweed (at No. 53) in the second round. The Steelers had those players rated much higher than they were taken.

"I was shocked," Arians said. "It was because of the run on linemen. People panicked. I called it a panic attack on offensive linemen. All of a sudden guys were trading away future picks and stuff to go get one of those tackles because this was the year to get a tackle. And when it happened, the tremendous skill guys dropped. Man, they were passing them up."

Arians was an assistant coach in Indianapolis when the Colts made James the fourth overall pick of the 1999 draft.

He said he rated Mendenhall "a bigger, faster Edgerrin James" and at 225 he can probably add another 5 pounds.

"He's 10 pounds heavier than Edge was and a tenth faster. He has those types of hands and power. Edge, I thought, did as good a job as anybody running the clock out, when he was in Indianapolis for sure. Being able to split out of the backfield is a unique kind of talent."

Parker said the week before the draft that adding another good running back might help extend his career by sharing the load.

"He extends Willie's career, for sure," Arians said. "And it's not like just taking Willie out of the game and putting in a sub, you're putting in a high-caliber guy, close to him, yet different."

Sweed gives the Steelers more depth, another deep threat and the kind of target Ben Roethlisberger wanted, not only a tall receiver at 6-foot-4 but one who has a wide range. Arians calls it the hula-hoop theory, a receiver who extends the area around him in which he can catch the ball. He said Hines Ward and Santonio Holmes also have that ability, in smaller packages.

"Then you don't have to put it on the money every time," Arians said. "You can throw a little behind on purpose -- this kid has that kind of talent."

The two electric additions to his offense should help strike that balance between the run and the pass and also make it more versatile, Arians said. And holding leads in the second half might just have become easier.

"There are a lot of ways to kill the clock; it's just a matter of making first downs," Arians said. "The sure-fire way is if you can beat somebody to death. We were able do that in September and October, and we were not able to do that in December and January for a number of reasons. It is something we were not accustomed to."

I agree with Arian's comparison with Mendenhall to Edge James...I mentioned that to my brother when Rashard was drafted...He said I was crazy...He does like Medenhall but he thought that comparison was far fetched...Arians thinks other wise...:lol:

WHy would we want arians to use something that he used in cleveland?? He did shiat there

LatrobePA
11-17-2008, 06:29 PM
I like the idea of Arians putting all his sh-it in his car and leaving Pittsburg next year!!!

SteelersWoman
11-18-2008, 12:11 PM
BA apparently gave up on his plans just because Mendenhall got hurt, and he must not be able to see some of the other talent we have that could be plugged in instead.

lloydfan4life
11-18-2008, 12:16 PM
I like the idea of Arians putting all his sh-it in his car and leaving Pittsburg next year!!!

I second that! :yellowthumb:

BlitzburghRockCity
11-18-2008, 09:41 PM
Parker and Russel could be awesome in the backfield. There a ton of possibilities you run out of that. Parker split out, Russel blocking for Parker, Parker as a decoy, direct snaps, all kinds of stuff. You could do the same with Moore and Russel, Parker and Moore too.

lloydfan4life
11-18-2008, 10:08 PM
Parker and Russel could be awesome in the backfield. There a ton of possibilities you run out of that. Parker split out, Russel blocking for Parker, Parker as a decoy, direct snaps, all kinds of stuff. You could do the same with Moore and Russel, Parker and Moore too.

Now let's not get too carried away here Top Gun.... don't forget we got Arians callin' 'em.