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darnik44
04-28-2008, 05:35 AM
2008 Pittsburgh Steelers

2 Dennis Dixon, QB, 6-3, 206, R, Oregon
3 Jeff Reed, K, 5-11, 225, 7, North Carolina
7 Ben Roethlisberger, QB, 6-5, 241, 5, Miami (OH)
9 Daniel Sepulveda, P, 6-3, 230, 2, Baylor
10 Santonio Holmes, WR, 5-11, 139, 3, Ohio State
14 Limas Sweed, WR, 6-4, 212, R, Texas
16 Charlie Batch, QB, 6-2, 212, 11, Eastern Michigan
20 Bryant McFadden, CB, 6-0, 190, 4, Florida State
21 Mewelde Moore, HB/KR, 5-11, 209, 5, Tulane
22 William Gay, CB, 5-10, 190, 2, Louisville
23 Tyrone Carter, S, 5-9, 195, 9, Minnesota
24 Ike Taylor, CB, 6-1, 191, 6, La-Lafayette
25 Ryan Clark, S, 5-11, 205, 7, Louisiana State
26 Deshea Townsend, CB, 5-10, 190, 11, Alabama
27 Anthony Smith, S, 5-11, 192, 3, Syracuse
29 Ryan Mundy, S, 6-1, 205, R, West Virginia
34 Rashard Mendenhall, HB, 5-10, 224, R, Illinois
37 Anthony Madison, CB, 5-9, 180, 3, Alabama
38 Carey Davis, FB, 5-10, 225, 2, Illinois
39 Willie Parker, HB, 5-10, 209, 5, North Carolina
43 Troy Polamalu, S, 5-10, 207, 6, Southern California
44 Najah Davenport, HB, 6-1, 247, 7, Miami
48 Cody Boyd, TE, 6-8, 264, 2, Washington State
50 Larry Foote, ILB, 6-1, 239, 7, Michigan
51 James Farrior, ILB, 6-2, 243, 12, Virginia
55 Mike Humpal, LB, 6-3, 244, R, Iowa
53 Bruce Davis, OLB, 6-2, 252, R, UCLA
56 LaMarr Woodley, OLB, 6-2, 265, 2, Michigan
60 Greg Warren, LS, 6-3, 252, 4, North Carolina
62 Justin Hartwig, C, 6-4, 312, 7, Kansas
64 Doug Legursky, C, 6-1, 323, R, Marshall
66 Tony Hills, OT, 6-6, 305, R, Texas
68 Chris Kemoeatu, OG, 6-3, 344, 4, Utah
73 Kendall Simmons, OG, 6-3, 315, 7, Auburn
74 Willie Colon, OG/OT, 6-3, 315, 3, Hofstra
76 Chris Hoke, NT, 6-2, 305, 8, Brigham Young
77 Marvel Smith, OT, 6-5, 321, 9, Arizona State
78 Max Starks, OT, 6-8, 337, 5, Florida
79 Trai Essex, OT/OG, 6-4, 324, 4, Northwestern
80 Dorian Bryant, WR, 5-9, 175, R, Purdue
83 Heath Miller, TE, 6-5, 256, 4, Virginia
85 Nate Washington, WR, 6-1, 185, 4, Tiffin
86 Hines Ward, WR, 6-0, 205, 11, Georgia
89 Matt Spaeth, TE, 6-7, 270, 2, Minnesota
90 Travis Kirschke, DE, 6-3, 298, 12, UCLA
91 Aaron Smith, DE, 6-5, 298, 10, Northern Colorado
92 James Harrison, OLB, 6-0, 242, 5, Kent State
93 Nick Eason, DE/DT, 6-3, 305, 6, Clemson
94 Lawrence Timmons, ILB, 6-1, 234, 2, Florida State
95 Ryan McBean, DE/DT, 6-5, 290, 2, Oklahoma State
97 Arnold Harrison, OLB, 6-3, 241, 3, Georgia
98 Casey Hampton, NT, 6-1, 325, 8, Texas
99 Brett Kiesel, DE, 6-5, 285, 7, Brigham Young

Practice Squad

31 Travis Williams, CB, 5-9, 180, R, East Carolina
33 Gary Russell, HB, 5-11, 215, 2, Minnesota
45 Mike Lorello, S, 5-11, 208 1, West Virginia
67 Matt Lentz, OT, 6-6, 320, 1, Michigan
71 Scott Paxon, DT, 6-4, 292, 1, Penn State
81 Dallas Baker, WR, 6-3, 206, 1, Florida


Rest of Training Camp Roster

4 Julian Rauch, K, R, Appalachian State
5 Jared Zabransky, QB, 1, Boise State
8 Mike Potts, QB, R, William & Mary
11 Jeremy Bloom, WR/KR, 2, Colorado
15 Willie Reid, WR/KR, 3, Florida State
18 Matt Trannon, WR, 6-6, 235, 1, Michigan State
19 Gerran Walker, WR, 1, Lehigh
28 Justin Vincent, HB, 1, Louisiana State
30 Roy Lewis, CB, R, Washington
41 Grant Mason, CB 2, Michigan
42 Billy Latsko, FB 1, Florida
46 Patrick Bailey, LB, R, Duke
47 Donovan Wood, ILB R, Oklahoma State
48 Anthony Trucks, ILB 1, Oregon
49 Jared Retkofsky, TE, 1, Texas Christian
54 Andre Frazier, OLB, 4, Cincinnati
57 Keyaron Fox, ILB/OLB, 5 Georgia Tech
61 Sean Mahan, C, 6, Notre Dame
64 Jordan Reffett, DE, R, Washington
65 Jeremy Parquet, OT, 3, Southern Mississippi
67 Kyle Clement, DE, R, Northwood
69 Jason Capizzi OT, 2, Indiana (PA)
72 Darnell Stapleton, C 2, Rutgers
84 Dezmond Sherrod, TE, R, Mississippi State
87 Micah Rucker, WR, R, Eastern Illinois
88 Jonathan Dekker, TE, 2, Princeton
96 Martavius Prince, DL, R, Southern Mississippi


Depth Chart

Quarterback
Ben Roethlisberger
Charlie Batch
Dennis Dixon

Half Back
Willie Parker
Rashard Mendenhall
Najah Davenport
Mewelde Moore

Full Back
Carey Davis

Wide Receiver
Hines Ward
Santonio Holmes
Limas Sweed
Nate Washington
Dorian Bryant

Tight End
Heath Miller
Matt Spaeth
Cody Boyd

Left Tackle
Marvel Smith
Tony Hills

Left Guard
Chris Kemoeatu

Center
Justin Hartwig
Doug Legursky

Right Guard
Willie Colon
Kendall Simmons

Right Tackle
Max Starks
Trai Essex

Left Defensive End
Brett Kiesel
Ryan McBean
Nick Eason

Nose Tackle
Casey Hampton
Chris Hoke

Right Defensive End
Aaron Smith
Travis Kirschke

Left Outside Linebacker
LaMarr Woodley
Bruce Davis

Inside Linebacker
James Farrior
Larry Foote
Lawrence Timmons
Mike Humpal

Right Outside Linebacker
James Harrison
Arnold Harrison

Left Cornerback
Ike Taylor
Bryant McFadden
Anthony Madison

Right Cornerback
Deshea Townsend
Willie Gay

Strong Safety
Troy Polamalu
Tyrone Carter

Free Safety
Anthony Smith
Ryan Clark
Ryan Mundy

Kicker
Jeff Reed

Punter
Daniel Sepulveda

Long Snapper
Greg Warren

Kick Returner
Mewelde Moore
Dorian Bryant
Najah Davenport
Nate Washington
Rashard Mendenhall

Punt Returner
Dorian Bryant
Mewelde Moore
Santonio Holmes

BlitzburghRockCity
04-28-2008, 07:56 PM
I'd really like to see Dallas Baker make this team as the 5th WR. I don't think Willie Reid makes the cut this year; he hasn't done jack to contribute since he's been drafted. I'd like to see Baker rise to the challenge.

Blitzburgh55
04-28-2008, 08:21 PM
I'd really like to see Dallas Baker make this team as the 5th WR. I don't think Willie Reid makes the cut this year; he hasn't done jack to contribute since he's been drafted. I'd like to see Baker rise to the challenge.

Yeah I agree i would like to see Barker as the 5th WR over Reid

Black@Gold Forever32
04-28-2008, 08:53 PM
I'd really like to see Dallas Baker make this team as the 5th WR. I don't think Willie Reid makes the cut this year; he hasn't done jack to contribute since he's been drafted. I'd like to see Baker rise to the challenge.

Top, I agree. I think Willie Reid had his chance and he blew it......He hasn't shown nothing as a kick returner.....I know he flashed at times at WR in camp and pre-season.....But I don't think he makes the team....I think Dallas Baker will win the 5th spot....

I see the top five WRs being

Hines Ward
Santonio Holmes
Nate Washington
Limas Sweed
Dallas Baker

I also only seeing 4 RBs making this team....

I have a feeling Ryan Mundy makes the team also ...I'm starting to really like this pick....I forgot he played at Michigan and when reading his bio it clicked in my head that was Ryan Mundy that played at Michigan a few years ago...I remember watching him at Michigan...The West Virginia thing threw me off....Wasn't sure it was the same guy...lol

Koopa
04-28-2008, 08:58 PM
I see the top five WRs being

Hines Ward
Santonio Holmes
Limas Sweed
Nate Washington
Dallas Baker



fixed......... washington is nowhere near the level of limas sweed........

Black@Gold Forever32
04-28-2008, 09:02 PM
fixed......... washington is nowhere near the level of limas sweed........

Didn't say he was jack bag...:lol: But Washington does have NFL experience and knows the playbook....So he has leg up on Sweed for the time being...

Its like posting with friends kids on here some times...:lol:

Koopa
04-28-2008, 09:04 PM
Didn't say he was jack bag...:lol: But Washington does have NFL experience and knows the playbook....So he has leg up on Sweed for the time being...

Its like posting with friends kids on here some times...:lol:

i said all that because i thought the only way to get him was with the first round pick.......... washington has never impressed me, even though he got better when we got worse last year......... limas has actually played big in big time games, and has played pretty good competition in his college career

K Train
04-28-2008, 09:06 PM
rashard will be directly in front of willie before long

Black@Gold Forever32
04-28-2008, 09:10 PM
i said all that because i thought the only way to get him was with the first round pick.......... washington has never impressed me, even though he got better when we got worse last year......... limas has actually played big in big time games, and has played pretty good competition in his college career

Dude I didn't have a problem with the Limas Sweed pick...I'm not saying Nate is better then him...Just saying rookie WR's don't have an impact usually in their rookies years...Yes Randy Moss had a great rookie year...But I think its safe to say Sweed won't have that type of rookie year...Plax had a very bad rookie year....

The good thing we can bring Sweed along slowly and just put him out there in multiple WR sets....Still Nate will have an edge on Sweed with NFL experience and knowing the play-book...Hopefully Sweed catches on fast and nails the 3rd WR spot....But I'll settle for him being comfortable and making some plays as the 4th WR in his rookie year...

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rashard will be directly in front of willie before long

Rookie RBs do make impacts their rookie years...So I wouldn't bet against that....But Parker will be the starter at the start of this season and I could see him remaining the starter all year...Now in 09?

darnik44
04-28-2008, 09:24 PM
I agree Willie Reid has done nothing. Cedric Wilson getting released gave Reid a shot to stay on the team. I was excited when the Steelers drafted Baker last year, I really liked him at Florida. But, his lack of playing time last pre-season said a lot IMO. I know coming in his speed was not up to par, so I'm not too sold on his prospects as a pro.

The Steelers did sign Dorian Bryant (Purdue) as a UDFA. He's a guy I could see making this team. I really like him and I'm surprised nobody took a shot on him. He smallish like Reid and is a dangerous return man. I'd say he more polished as a wide receiver than Reid. I think he's certainly good enough to make a team as a 4th or 5th receiver/return man. Keep an eye on him. There's always the chance they carry 6 receivers, and if James Farrior is cut WR, CB, or S should get the extra roster spot.

Also, I added the UDFA's the Steelers signed and expanded a bit on a few things and added a depth chart.

Black@Gold Forever32
04-28-2008, 09:30 PM
I agree with you on Bryant......I disagree that Farrior will be cut....He had a great year last year even though he is getting up there...

BlackGold4vr
04-28-2008, 09:48 PM
Still Nate will have an edge on Sweed with NFL experience and knowing the play-book...Hopefully Sweed catches on fast and nails the 3rd WR spot....But I'll settle for him being comfortable and making some plays as the 4th WR in his rookie year...


I agree 100%. Three years of experience will keep Sweed as the #4 wideout this year. Three years of experience learning how to run good routes and knowing the playbook will keep Nate as the #3 for this year. No doubt Sweed will own Washington next year. Having said that I believe they will incorporate more 4 receiver sets to get Sweed on the field and to create mismatches all over the field. Should be fun to watch as long as Ben doesn't try to be a hero and hold the ball too long. :lol:

Koopa
04-29-2008, 01:53 AM
I agree with you on Bryant......I disagree that Farrior will be cut....He had a great year last year even though he is getting up there...

i concur, i think it's retarded to suggest he'll be cut, the dude is old, yeah, but he still produces at a high level, and it's not like he cost a lot, he seems to always be willing to restructure his deal to help the team out

Black@Gold Forever32
04-29-2008, 02:00 AM
i concur, i think it's retarded to suggest he'll be cut, the dude is old, yeah, but he still produces at a high level, and it's not like he cost a lot, he seems to always be willing to restructure his deal to help the team out

Wow we actually agree on something......:lol: For real though I can't imagine Farrior being cut....That just doesn't make sense....Now will he back next year? Since he is in the last year of his contract....Mostly depends on what he does this year and if he wants to comeback at a reduced price next year...

darnik44
04-29-2008, 06:39 AM
Here's the deal on Farrior. I'm not saying he's washed up, but I'm also not dreaming up the scenario that he could be cut. This is something that has had some talk. One big reason would be for cap reasons. The other would be because Lawrence Timmons needs to get on the field. I don't know how well Timmons translates to play in Farrior's spot, but apparently the Steelers think he can. This could be a Joey Porter type situation. I hope it doesn't happen though, I'm just aware it could.

On Sweed, the Steelers WR coach has already penciled Sweed in at the 3rd WR spot.

ItAintEasyBeingPeazy
04-29-2008, 10:13 AM
Even though he's a Rookie, Sweed will make an impact.Hines rough style of play usually gets him out of a few games here and there and Sweed will get the looks.Plus we all know how Ben likes to throw the Hail Mary to those tall guys.Look at Dwayne Bowe last year, produced as a rookie.

"I feel the need, the need for some Sweed!"

K Train
04-29-2008, 02:56 PM
whether hes 1 2 3 or 4 sweed is gonna make a difference, plus ward misses 3 games a year. if he blows up in camp hes gonna be on the field alot regardless of experience....ben wants his 76" of WR on the field

darnik44
04-29-2008, 10:59 PM
Santonio Holmes had nearly 900 rec. yards as a rookie. Cowher and Wiz were way more conservative than this coaching staff. I see no reason to not expect Sweed to be a big contributor.

steelcitysfinestXL
05-01-2008, 07:11 PM
Darnik, in todays Post Ben says sweed is at the 4 and likely wont be catching shiat from him in mini camp unless he gets to run with the first unit. Knowing the steelers like we all do, we KNOW Nate will start out this offseason infront of Sweed. I disagree with it and i hope they split the snaps at 3 50/50 between Sweed and Washington. And maybe work him in at the 2 a few snaps on the first unit with Hines in the slot!!!

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08122/878087-66.stm

"Roethlisberger said he knows very little about Sweed, other than he missed half of his final season with ligament damage in his wrist that required surgery. Sweed, who had 20 career touchdown catches at Texas, will begin as the fourth receiver behind Ward, Santonio Holmes and Nate Washington."

And James farrior has been our best linebacker for years now, if anyone gets cut it will be Foote because i believe he is getting close to a contract year and his play is consistantly average, with a few bright spots. Foote gets his job done, where Timmons could be a big playmaker. Regardless if it cap space they are worried about i think LB will be the last place they look to make some room! I look to RB (Dookie and Russell)

darnik44
05-01-2008, 09:30 PM
Darnik, in todays Post Ben says sweed is at the 4 and likely wont be catching shiat from him in mini camp unless he gets to run with the first unit. Knowing the steelers like we all do, we KNOW Nate will start out this offseason infront of Sweed. I disagree with it and i hope they split the snaps at 3 50/50 between Sweed and Washington. And maybe work him in at the 2 a few snaps on the first unit with Hines in the slot!!!

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08122/878087-66.stm

"Roethlisberger said he knows very little about Sweed, other than he missed half of his final season with ligament damage in his wrist that required surgery. Sweed, who had 20 career touchdown catches at Texas, will begin as the fourth receiver behind Ward, Santonio Holmes and Nate Washington."

And James farrior has been our best linebacker for years now, if anyone gets cut it will be Foote because i believe he is getting close to a contract year and his play is consistantly average, with a few bright spots. Foote gets his job done, where Timmons could be a big playmaker. Regardless if it cap space they are worried about i think LB will be the last place they look to make some room! I look to RB (Dookie and Russell)

Well you're talking about his first mini camp. I'm talking after all the mini camps, training camp, and the pre season.

It's Farrior that is the oldest and counts the most against the cap. Believe me, I'm not advocating this move, just citing the possibility. Russel probably gets cut, but that saves them like 200K. Farrior would save them several million. I agree Davenport isn't a lock to make the team, but I hope and think he will.

steelcitysfinestXL
05-01-2008, 10:04 PM
Well you're talking about his first mini camp. I'm talking after all the mini camps, training camp, and the pre season.

It's Farrior that is the oldest and counts the most against the cap. Believe me, I'm not advocating this move, just citing the possibility. Russel probably gets cut, but that saves them like 200K. Farrior would save them several million. I agree Davenport isn't a lock to make the team, but I hope and think he will.

:plus1: ok i thought you were saying Farrior should be cut... yeah he would free up room but that would be just cut throat by the rooneys and i dont see it. he is getting old but his level of play is still phenominal IMO and he is right now our most stable defensive player with Aaron smith. I like Dav but if someone has to go its gonna/should be him. Russell is gonna be an after thought w/ moore and Mendenhall but like you said his cap hit is minimal.
If the cap is gonna be an issue this camp the first two people to look at should be Hines and Troy. Hines will make a huge stink if the ask him to take a cut and Troy JUST got his deal and i think deserves one more year to show he can earn it.

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I still think Sweed will REALLY have to stand out to take the 3 spot by week 1, but i think he has the skill set to outseat Nate. My worry is this rediculous loyalty they seem to have with Nate when he has had as many missed oppurtunities as he has made plays. i like Nate as a 4 behind Sweed , but im just a lil conerned it may not happen before week 1. I think sweed could open up our offense simply by drawing coverage towards him due to his size and speed. i look for Homes and Ward to really thrive off of that.

darnik44
05-02-2008, 12:34 AM
I edited the original post again. I added the ht., wt, exp, and worked in 2 UDFA's I expect to make the roster. In all, I can see all 7 draft picks making the team and 2 UDFA's (Bryant and Legursky). If the 7 draft picks make the team and the 6 picks from last year I expect to make the team, that's 13 draft picks from the last 2 drafts. I call that efficient.

Black@Gold Forever32
05-02-2008, 12:44 AM
:plus1: ok i thought you were saying Farrior should be cut... yeah he would free up room but that would be just cut throat by the rooneys and i dont see it. he is getting old but his level of play is still phenominal IMO and he is right now our most stable defensive player with Aaron smith. I like Dav but if someone has to go its gonna/should be him. Russell is gonna be an after thought w/ moore and Mendenhall but like you said his cap hit is minimal.
If the cap is gonna be an issue this camp the first two people to look at should be Hines and Troy. Hines will make a huge stink if the ask him to take a cut and Troy JUST got his deal and i think deserves one more year to show he can earn it.

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I still think Sweed will REALLY have to stand out to take the 3 spot by week 1, but i think he has the skill set to outseat Nate. My worry is this rediculous loyalty they seem to have with Nate when he has had as many missed oppurtunities as he has made plays. i like Nate as a 4 behind Sweed , but im just a lil conerned it may not happen before week 1. I think sweed could open up our offense simply by drawing coverage towards him due to his size and speed. i look for Homes and Ward to really thrive off of that.

I agree that Sweed will have to stand out to beat out Nate for number 3 (which I hope does)....Its nothing against Nate....I actually like Nate and think he is serviceable NFL WR.....But like you said with Sweed's size and speed he will dictate coverage....Which will make life easier for Ward and Holmes...

But Nate does have the edge due to his NFL experience and knowing the play-book...Plus I'm factoring rookie WRs usually start off slow and don't really impact their rookie years...There is exceptions....I just hope Sweed can win the 3rd WR spot...But even if he is just out there in the 4 WR sets then he still will make plays...Should be fun watching Nate and Limas competing for that spot...

TEEMONT
05-02-2008, 12:51 AM
I wanna know who darniks sources are

Also, what are the chances Dixon doesn't even play this year? How healed is his knee? I heard rumblings during the draft or in the PG or something, (I can't remember) that he might actually be IR when the season starts.

Black@Gold Forever32
05-02-2008, 12:55 AM
I wanna know who darniks sources are

Also, what are the chances Dixon doesn't even play this year? How healed is his knee? I heard rumblings during the draft or in the PG or something, (I can't remember) that he might actually be IR when the season starts.

I read something the other day that Dixon should be ready to go by camp....Need to find the article again....But even if he is there is a great chance he won't even see the field this year...Unless he goes out there at QB in some crazy formation....

BlitzburghRockCity
05-02-2008, 06:13 AM
I wanna know who darniks sources are

Also, what are the chances Dixon doesn't even play this year? How healed is his knee? I heard rumblings during the draft or in the PG or something, (I can't remember) that he might actually be IR when the season starts.

At this point he's not even guaranteed to make the team. We aren't going to carry 4 QB's and he's not going to make it as a WR so he's going to have to fight off Zabransky for that 3rd backup spot. I think he probably has an edge due to his versatility but he's going to have to earn it for sure.

darnik44
05-03-2008, 05:11 PM
Scratch Dorian Bryant, he failed his physical...I really like him, very disappointing. Willie Reid is happy I'm sure.

Koopa
05-03-2008, 06:04 PM
At this point he's not even guaranteed to make the team. We aren't going to carry 4 QB's and he's not going to make it as a WR so he's going to have to fight off Zabransky for that 3rd backup spot. I think he probably has an edge due to his versatility but he's going to have to earn it for sure.

i don't think he has to earn it, zabransky is a bum, so dixion is a lock as the third stringer because he'll get the benefit of the doubt cause of the injury, plus they invested a draft pick in him, and tomlin seems giddy over his versatility when he is fully healthy

BlitzburghRockCity
05-03-2008, 06:31 PM
I think Zabransky will give him a run for his money though and he looked good in the light workouts when they signed in but in the end Dixon will probably get the nod mostly because of his versatility as you mentioned. Some scouts were projecting him to be a 2nd round pick if he hadn't blown out his knee.

Atleast we aren't watching BSP again :lol:

Black@Gold Forever32
05-03-2008, 06:38 PM
I think Zabransky will give him a run for his money though and he looked good in the light workouts when they signed in but in the end Dixon will probably get the nod mostly because of his versatility as you mentioned. Some scouts were projecting him to be a 2nd round pick if he hadn't blown out his knee.

Atleast we aren't watching BSP again :lol:

The Steelers won't run the statue of liberty play much so I don't think Zabransky really is in the running for the 3rd QB spot...:lol: If healthy Dixon will win out....I'm willing to bet.....

darnik44
05-03-2008, 07:10 PM
Zabransky failed to make the Texans roster, need I say more? He's simply a warm body to fill a training camp roster spot.