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04-22-2008, 08:42 PM

Skins offer '08 first-rounder, '09 pick for Johnson; Cincy says no

By Chris Mortensen
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Updated: April 22, 2008, 8:16 PM ET

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Bengals Reject Redskins Trade Offer For Chad Johnson

How serious are the Cincinnati Bengals (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=cin) about not giving in to Chad Johnson (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5483)'s trade demands?
Serious enough to swat away an offer from the Washington Redskins (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=was) that could have netted the Bengals two first-round draft picks, team and league sources said.
Bengals coach Marvin Lewis, who initially denied the team had received offers for Johnson during a Tuesday news conference, confirmed to ESPN that Cincinnati turned down Washington's offer of two picks.
"Once I actually read what was reported, I have to be truthful and say that the story is accurate," Lewis told ESPN. "Unfortunately, I didn't read it until after our press conference."
The Redskins offered their first-round pick, No. 21 overall, and a conditional third-rounder in 2009 that could escalate to a first rounder if Johnson and the Redskins hit certain performance levels, the sources said.

Two For One

It took the Redskins' top two receivers to surpass the production of the Bengals' Chad Johnson last season.

PlayerRec.YardsTDsSantana Moss 61 808 3 Chris Cooley 66 786 8 TOTALS 127 1594 11 Chad Johnson 93 1440 8

It was not the first time the Redskins approached the Bengals about a deal, but it was the first significant proposal.
Lewis says the disgruntled receiver who wants out of Cincinnati should keep his word and sit out the season.
"I've stated our case with Chad," Lewis said. "He has a contract through 2011. He's stated without an opportunity to go to a different team and a new contract, he wasn't going to play. I think he's a man of his word and says he's not going to play, so don't play."
The Bengals have not only rejected the Redskins, but two other NFC East suitors -- the Dallas Cowboys (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=dal) and Philadelphia Eagles (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=phi) -- have been informed that there has been no change in the team's position that Johnson's contract will remain with the Bengals.
The Bengals have noted to those suitors that Johnson has been the "second-highest paid receiver" in the NFL during the past three years, indignant about suggestions that Johnson also wants a new contract, the sources said.
Trading Johnson also would mean Cincinnati would take an $8 million salary cap hit, but the Bengals are currently $10.5 million under the cap and could re-structure other contracts if they wanted to create even more space. Additionally, as one anonymous owner told ESPN.com, "There's nothing wrong with dead money. It's cash already paid and it's cash back in your pocket that you don't have to spend, especially with the [high] amount of everyone's salary cap these days."
Johnson became the epitome of Cincinnati's 7-9 season when he sniped at quarterback Carson Palmer (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=6337) during a loss to New England. Johnson ran the wrong route on a pass play, resulting in a game-turning interception. He initially blamed Palmer for the problem.
Since the end of last season, Johnson has been lobbying for a trade even though he agreed to a long-term deal with the Bengals two years ago. Johnson's contract would pay him $3 million next season and extends through 2010, with a club option for 2011.

Other teams have traded away stars when they started becoming divisive. Bengals owner Mike Brown (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5068) has a history of refusing to give in to player demands. When running back Corey Dillon (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=3914) tried to force the team to trade him in 2003, the Bengals waited until after the season to send him to New England.
In that case, it was more about getting rid of a player they no longer needed -- Rudi Johnson (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5548) had emerged as the starter -- than it was about satisfying Dillon.
The Bengals need Johnson in the short-term. No. 3 receiver Chris Henry (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=7259) was released after yet another arrest earlier this month, leaving the Bengals with little depth at the position. They might take a receiver high in the draft this weekend.
Last week, when Palmer told reporters that Johnson had assured him he would show up for mandatory team activities, the receiver took issue with him.
On Tuesday, Palmer declined to discuss it further.
"I take it with a grain of salt," said Palmer, who is working out with the team in Cincinnati. "I've moved on and I'm over it. I'm not really going to comment on it much more."
Asked if the two could get along if Johnson stays, Palmer said, "I've always been a forgiving guy, and I hope he's here because he's a good player, and I hope to see him here."
It's been an eventful month for the Bengals. Besides getting rid of Henry, they had linebacker Odell Thurman (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=7224) reinstated by the NFL on Monday. Thurman was suspended for the last two seasons after skipping a drug test and getting arrested for drunken driving.
Lewis said Thurman still must prove he can stay out of trouble.
"There's an opportunity, possibly, if we want, to keep him on the football team and have the opportunity for him to compete for a roster spot," Lewis said. "He's got to do things the right way constantly. That still remains to be seen, whether he can handle that kind of scrutiny day-in and day-out."
Chris Mortensen covers the NFL for ESPN. ESPN.com's James Walker and The Associated Press also contributed to this report

04-22-2008, 09:12 PM
With how Mike Brown operates. Johnson will sit until he is dead,

04-22-2008, 09:15 PM
I really like the way Mike Brown and Marvin Lewis are handling this.

04-22-2008, 09:39 PM
"I've stated our case with Chad," Lewis said. "He has a contract through 2011. He's stated without an opportunity to go to a different team and a new contract, he wasn't going to play. I think he's a man of his word and says he's not going to play, so don't play."
LMAO!!! Lewis is a joke, he lost control of his team years ago, if he would've been a tough guy back then, CJ wouldn't be wanting out of Cincy now.

04-22-2008, 10:56 PM
CJ went from Godsend to brat....in two years....and he is starting to show his true colors with how he is currently acting. He rode the wave when the Bengals were up, tried to resurrect it the season after they were taken out in their first playoff game in 15 years....and now is upset he's not on a winning team. Now will he play for Cincy? He'll have to get the team and fanbase behind him again. Will he sit out? He's signed to 2011....how will that work out if he doesn't work out....

Cincy was so close.....but now they are becoming so far....away from competitiveness.


04-23-2008, 11:17 AM
The bungals w/o CJ will visit the cellar....again.....it just breaks my heart of hearts.:yellowthumb:

04-23-2008, 11:51 AM
The Bengals have once again proved that they are the total trainwreck of an organization that everybody outside of their fans knows. They are absolutely pathetic and worthless if they don't do this trade. 2 picks for a pro bowler that you can easily trade around with and gain atleast 1 more day 1 pick out of it and give your team 3 or 4 new top players for the price of 1 locker room cancer.

They are as hapless as it gets and get what they deserve.

04-23-2008, 12:01 PM
Anyone been to any Bunghole boards lately to hear the crickets and the dust settling? :haha:

04-23-2008, 02:04 PM
I think when all is said and done and Johnson realizes he's not going to be traded and the Bengals are standing firm he'll come crawling back with his tail between his legs wanting to play and Lewis will let him...

Brady Quinn
04-23-2008, 02:50 PM

04-23-2008, 03:49 PM
all the bungal fans on the radio were saying it's a good move because of the cap hit.. Screw that, take the cap hit and move on. You're team is in dissary, everybody hates playing there, your coach can't control the players, the scouting dept is a joke, the front office is pathetic...just take your lumps from it and move forward. sometimes you have to take a step back to go forward.

04-24-2008, 11:00 AM
Although he is a spoiled brat...i'd say cut him and let him be someone elses problem! Not ours of course! He won't shut his mouth until he plays for a winning team unfortunately! I wouldn't want him poisioning my team and you know if he sits out he'll still be running his mouth to the media so why not just get rid of a big headache! HIs couch isn't going to control him!

04-24-2008, 01:30 PM
Well at least he is not doing situps on the front lawn in front of tv cameras yet :lol:

04-24-2008, 04:10 PM
Don't poke fun at T.O. He had to feed his family.

04-24-2008, 09:02 PM
Well at least he is not doing situps on the front lawn in front of tv cameras yet :lol:

Give him time, the offseason is still young :lol: