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BlackGold4vr
03-28-2008, 11:09 AM
SteelCityInsider.com
Posted Mar 28, 2008

The Pittsburgh Steelers might want to readjust their draft board because Branden Albert won't make it past the 14th pick. Which means defense could be the way to go.

I'm pretty sure Branden Albert will not be coming to Pittsburgh on April 26. I just finished watching "Path to the Draft" on NFL Network and the Mike Mayock-less panel was slobbering over each other to see who could praise Albert more. Charles Davis ranked Albert as the draft's best guard (duh) and possibly the second best tackle (wow). Former general manager Charley Casserly said that NFL teams speak of Albert in hushed tones, as if he's the league's best kept secret, and suggested that the former Virginia guard will probably be taken somewhere between the 10th and 20th pick. Casserly then added that he wouldn't be surprised if Albert snuck into the top 10.

When I advocated for the Pittsburgh Steelers trading up to get Albert I was going on the assumption that he would still be available sometime after the 15th selection. Now it seems like the Cowboys have a better chance of landing Darren McFadden at 1.15 than the Steelers have of nabbing Albert.

Part of the issue is that a lot of teams have horrendous offensive lines, but perhaps the bigger problem -- at least from the Steelers' perspective, anyway -- is that Albert is much more valuable because of his versatility. That he's a legitimate NFL left tackle makes him imminently more appealing, which is why Pittsburgh has absolutely no shot at getting him. And I'm surprisingly depressed considering that I haven't watched a UVa game in two years and didn't know who Branden Albert was three months ago.

For some perspective on how rare it is for a pure guard to go high in the draft, consider this: since 1998, when the Steelers used the 26th-overall pick on some dude named Alan Faneca, only five guards have been first-rounders (Steve Hutchinson, 17th overall, '01; Kendall Simmons, 30th, '02; Logan Mankins, 32nd, '05; Davin Joseph, 23rd, '06; Ben Grubbs, 29th, '07).

College guards drafted to play tackle are a different story, however. In 1998, Kyle Turley was the seventh-overall pick, a year later, Luke Petigout was taken 19th overall, and Leonard Davis was the second selection of the 2001 draft. The point: start saying your goodbyes now; Albert is a goner. Three weeks ago I wrote that "the good news is that even if another team takes Albert before the Steelers go on the clock, it's an extremely deep draft for offensive linemen."

History may prove this to still be the case, but it sure doesn't feel like it 30 days out from the biggest weekend of the spring.

Which brings us back to the conversation we've been having since Albert had a solid Combine performance in February: who do the Steelers target when he's inevitably gone midway through the first round? "Offensive line" is the obvious, almost reflexive answer, but if there's ever been a case for taking the best player available, I think this year is it.

For as deep as the offensive line class is alleged to be, after Jake Long, Ryan Clady, Chris Williams and Albert, there are plenty of questions. Jeff Otah could be the next Mathias Nkwenti (I think it would be less offensive to call him the next Todd Fordham, but that's splitting hairs), Gosder Cherilus is apparently strictly an NFL right tackle, Sam Baker and Anthony Collins are on-field underachievers, Carl Nicks has so many off-field issues that Casserly said he wouldn't even have the guy on his draft board despite his first-round potential. Short of Pittsburgh trading into the top 10, or one of the best five linemen taking a Roethlisbergian fall to 1.23, the Steelers will be looking to fill other needs.

Of course, that probably means the depth chart currently looks something like this (from left to right): Marvel Smith, Kendall Simmons/Chris Kemoeatu, Justin Hartwig/Darnell Stapleton/Anybody but Sean Mahan, Simmons/Willie Colon, Max Starks/Colon. I could spend another 2000 words on why this is cast of characters will set the organization back 10 years, but you've seen that movie. (Cliff's Notes version: Larry Zierlein's blocking-optional pass-protection schemes help Ben Roethlisberger break all of David Carr's single-season sack records, and in the process force him to retire after his 14th concussion midway through the 2009 season.)

Forgetting the o-lines issues (it helps deaden the pain of knowing that Albert ain't wakin' through that door), the Steelers have plenty of concerns on the other side of the ball. The defense was among the best in the league last year, but it was wildly inconsistent from week to week, and sometimes from series to series. Losing Aaron Smith exposed the lack of depth on the defensive line, but there probably won't be much to choose from to bolster that unit late in the first round. There should a few linebackers and defensive backs available, however.

Even though Pittsburgh used its first two draft picks last year on linebackers, James Farrior won't play forever. And while we wait for Juan Timmons to emerge, LaMarr Woodley reminds us that rookies can have an impact. After the 2007 draft, Dick LeBeau seemed pretty jazzed about concocting ways to get Timmons and Woodley to the quarterback, and I'd imagine he'd just as happy to have a player like Quentin Groves added to the mix.

I get the sense that cornerbacks Leodis McKelvin and Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie are parlaying their stellar small-school seasons, and big Senior Bowl, Combine and Pro Day showings into nice little paydays. Good for them. I blame Ricardo Colclough for my small-school phobia, but the possibility that the Steelers might take Antoine Cason or Mike Jenkins or even Brandon Flowers excites me. If the front-seven pass rush isn't going to be fixed anytime soon, Pittsburgh might as well shore up the secondary.

For all the jaw-agape stares Mahan elicited with his play last season, the offense was still relatively productive. In fact, save the wild card loss to the Jaguars, the offense wasn't directly responsible for any of the team's losses. That's not to say they were blameless, but that the defense's inability to get off the field in key situations had more to do with the "6" in 10-6 than a sputtering offense.

If anybody in Pittsburgh's front office thinks the o-line has enough duct tape to make it through next season, they're drunk; but I could envision a scenario where the team's top o-line targets are gone and the next few players on their draft board are defenders. It's not perfect, but the draft never is. The idea is to use the last weekend in April to get better, and if the Steelers improve their defense from last season that's a pretty good start to 2008.


I agree that the more Albert is hyped the better the chances are that he will be gone before the 23rd pick. But if by some odd twist of fate I should hear the name Quentin Groves or Philip Merling made with the 23rd pick, it won't ruin my day! :lol:

K Train
03-28-2008, 07:33 PM
i dont think getting albert at 23 will be a problem

BlitzburghRockCity
03-28-2008, 07:59 PM
I wouldn't surprise me to see him fall to us but stranger things have happened. Depending on how this whole day 1 pans out we could see several Tackle's, Brandon Albert, or virtually anybody on the DE position not named Dorsey or Gholston be available to us. At this point any big body on the interior line is fine with me

Black@Gold Forever32
03-28-2008, 08:23 PM
I agree with the article that the top OL talent will be gone.....Thats why I'm concentrating more on Groves, Talib and even Malcolm Kelly now at 23.....


I still would want Chris Williams or Brandon Albert over those three....I just see both of them being gone....Albert might even get drafted ahead of Williams now...

Drafting best player available is always the best way to go....I don't want Otah so I hope Groves, Talib or even Kelly is a Steeler now....I'm hoping that at least Williams or Albert fall....

One point to make to according to the article....Coach Zierlein's scheme seems to be part of the problem also.....Maybe Coach Z needs to go?......

BlackGold4vr
03-28-2008, 08:25 PM
i dont think getting albert at 23 will be a problem


I have been watching NFL network and have heard the gushing all these guys are doing over Branden Albert. There seem to be many teams talking O-lineman in this years draft and I am not so certain that he is still there for us. As far as O-lineman go, Albert is now the 4th ranked O-lineman behind only Long, Williams, and Otah. So if one more of those top 22 teams decide to take an O-lineman he might be gone. If you asked me he is better than Otah and chances are a few other people may feel that way too. I would like to see us get him but there are no guarantees. I saw 1 mock that had Albert going to the Lions at pick 15. Only time will tell. This is the time of year when teams are all putting on their best poker faces and convincing everybody that they are after a guy that they don't really want!

K Train
03-28-2008, 08:37 PM
i love talib but i hate the thought of a corner in the first....i just hate it

Kelly or sweed would be interesting, but merling would be my pick that that point....im not quite sure how i feel about balmer anymore

Black@Gold Forever32
03-28-2008, 08:43 PM
i love talib but i hate the thought of a corner in the first....i just hate it

Kelly or sweed would be interesting, but merling would be my pick that that point....im not quite sure how i feel about balmer anymore

I think Balmer and Merling are better fits for the 4-3....Could be wrong...I would take Groves and Kelly over Talib....But I do like Talib...

DIESELMAN
03-28-2008, 08:56 PM
If J. Long, Clady, Williams, Albert, maybe Cherilus are gone by our #23. Then we need to take either best player available or depending on who is there, a DE. I prefer the DE, cuz what we got other then Smith just ain't gettin it done.

K Train
03-28-2008, 10:21 PM
I think Balmer and Merling are better fits for the 4-3....Could be wrong...I would take Groves and Kelly over Talib....But I do like Talib...

i thought balmer was the better of the 2 for a 34 but the more i watched merling and read about him i think he would be a vicious force at DE in a 34...hes huge and could hold his own and stuff the run, but strong and fast enough to generate a pass rush

Black@Gold Forever32
03-28-2008, 10:28 PM
i thought balmer was the better of the 2 for a 34 but the more i watched merling and read about him i think he would be a vicious force at DE in a 34...hes huge and could hold his own and stuff the run, but strong and fast enough to generate a pass rush

Trust me I wouldn't throw a fit if Balmer or Merling are drafted... I just hope they can play DE in a 3-4....

BlackGold4vr
03-28-2008, 11:11 PM
Trust me I wouldn't throw a fit if Balmer or Merling are drafted... I just hope they can play DE in a 3-4....


I have heard many scouts say that Philip Merling is a better football player than Gaines Adams was last year. Adams went 4th overall in last years draft. I would love to see us end up with Merling and Langford.

Ba bye, Travis Kirschke! Ba bye Nick Eason

Even if Merling and Langford started off the season as back-ups and were cycled into the game to give the starters some breathers, I believe our D-line would be vastly improved. And those guys could be the future bookends of our D-line for years to come. :yesnod:

Black@Gold Forever32
03-28-2008, 11:36 PM
The question isn't if I think Merling or Balmer are good football players....The question is can they play in a 3-4?....Its tough finding 3-4 DL and who knows if these guys are a good fit....I rather take a chance with a Moore or Langford in the later rounds....Take Groves or Kelly in the first...

BlackGold4vr
03-28-2008, 11:41 PM
The question isn't if I think Merling or Balmer are good football players....The question is can they play in a 3-4?....Its tough finding 3-4 DL and who knows if these guys are a good fit....I rather take a chance with a Moore or Langford in the later rounds....Take Groves or Kelly in the first...


I really like Groves too! I think he is gonna be a beast in the NFL. If we can't get Albert, Groves is my second choice.

Woodley -- Timmons -- Harrison -- Groves

Black@Gold Forever32
03-28-2008, 11:48 PM
I really like Groves too! I think he is gonna be a beast in the NFL. If we can't get Albert, Groves is my second choice.

Woodley -- Timmons -- Harrison -- Groves

I agree that would be one hell of a LB core.....Groves in the first....Then Moore in the 2nd or Langford in the 3rd...That would be sweet....But I'm still hoping Albert is there at 23 which every day I having more doubts....:yesnod:

K Train
03-29-2008, 09:13 AM
and harrison is definitely athletic enough to move inside, he used to fill in for farrior at that spot and had a few great games....while groves and woodley are athletic enough to drop back occasionally they would just be badass pass rushers....it would just be vicious lol

steelcityrockers
03-29-2008, 11:13 AM
Why is evryone in love with Talib? He isn't as big as some thought (6'-0'' tall), is slow (I disregard 40's but he was simply burned by Jordy Nelson), and has atrocious footwork.
My Top 5 Corners
1. Leodis McKelvin
2. Antoine Cason
3. DRC
4. Mike Jenkins
5. Patrick Lee

K Train
03-29-2008, 11:24 AM
Talib is a very good cover corner, one play doesnt make a career....he got burned in his last game, last year leon hall didnt just get burned but he got continually raped in his last game and he still went midway through the first. He doesnt have atrocious footwork either, hes very smooth. his combine wasnt the greatest, he ran a better time than most thought. and his ball skills are EXCELLENT.

My corner rankings are

DRC
Mclovin
Talib
Jenkins
Flowers
Cason

Black@Gold Forever32
03-29-2008, 11:29 AM
I agree with you Train about Talib...Plus I remember seeing him making more big plays then being burnt....Like that pick-6 in his teams Bowl game....